Meat

[keith117]

I quit eating red meat and pork about three years ago for health reasons. Although I do sneak a piece or two of bacon every once in a while, I've been sticking with chicken, turkey and fish and haven't missed red meat at all. The spicy black bean burgers from Costco are fantastic, so if you need a burger fix, that's a pretty good option.

 

[HisArpy]

Not enough nutrition... I know, add lettuce!

Does not compute.

You expected logic and reasonableness? On the GB?



HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!


Ok, it's too early for that much snark, bring on the... uh WHO stole my bacon?

 

[RocketLauncher]

I've found plenty of meatless meals. What I'm really looking for is, I think, something to supress my urge to season them with a pig.

What your missing is the salt and fat. Keep in mind meat is rather bland unless seasoned, rubbed or sauced. So essentially you're missing the high fat content and saltiness of the seasonings.
I would suggest eating salted nuts, potato chips to compensate and smoked cheese to replace bacon. If you're still consuming fish then smoked fish, too. I don't recommend it long term but long enough to transition to a point where you have reached the balance you're looking for in your diet.
Walking away from a table not feeling bloated is actually a good thing. Beans, pasta, rice, bread all good staples to fill that void until you no longer have a psychological addiction to over eating meat.

 

[pointless]

It was a rhetorical question.

Let me rephrase that to: I had no idea people called them that.

yeah, i don't know why they're called that. i just know they add a nice sour note to pizza and sandwiches.

 

[Liar]

You expected logic and reasonableness? On the GB?



HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!


Ok, it's too early for that much snark, bring on the... uh WHO stole my bacon?

This ain't politics, so I had hope.

 

[CandiCame]

Not enough nutrition... I know, add lettuce!

Does not compute.

Yeah dude, I need that vitamin A, I already wear glasses. And the fiber. And the potassium- what are you talking about? Like I don't get this post. Get those vitamins A, C, B, and K, get that phosphorous and magnesium-

Oh shit wait, no I get it. No, this was years before the lettuce got contaminated. This was perfectly fine. This was like 4 or 5 years ago.

I mean, I still do that though. I'm not scared of salmonella because I'm a fucking idiot. I mean I am, but I'll eat raw cookie dough.

 

[CandiCame]

What your missing is the salt and fat. Keep in mind meat is rather bland unless seasoned, rubbed or sauced. So essentially you're missing the high fat content and saltiness of the seasonings.
I would suggest eating salted nuts, potato chips to compensate and smoked cheese to replace bacon. If you're still consuming fish then smoked fish, too. I don't recommend it long term but long enough to transition to a point where you have reached the balance you're looking for in your diet.
Walking away from a table not feeling bloated is actually a good thing. Beans, pasta, rice, bread all good staples to fill that void until you no longer have a psychological addiction to over eating meat.

I don't know that that's the case. A lot of vegetarian food is both salty and fatty. Like me deep frying my doughnuts in corn oil is a little bit better than frying them in lard but like... I mean I'm still killing myself.

It depends on whether you're eating healthy or not. I've never been healthy in my life but I was a vegetarian for years.

What you're missing when you're not eating meat isn't really a dietary thing (unless you go full vegan, then take a B12 or whatever- I can't remember which one you only get from dairy, but there's some vitamin that it's really hard to get because people won't eat mushrooms for whatever reason) it's a psychological thing and a convenience thing. I mean it's not "I am craving fats therefore I will eat fats and the meat craving will go away". It's like, "I want a cheeseburger because I like the taste." Even though you don't really need anything from a cheeseburger.

If it's not an ethical thing, like if you're doing it for your health, honestly the best thing to do is just eat what you're craving but less of it.

If you really, really want to get away from meat completely you can just wean yourself off of it by doing that, too. I've seen people do it.

Also, not for nothing, but a lot of chips aren't vegetarian, so check the ingredients. A lot of them are fried in tallow, pork fat or chicken fat. That's just a thing the industry does and they don't have to label it- I can't remember what it is but it's written in such a way that you have to know what to look for. It's like, "Natural flavorings" or something like that, some real bullshit convoluted thing.

Also most processed sugar has a preservative made from bone meal in it, and it's like IN there, like mixed in with the sugar so it's not like you can sift it out. So that's a pain in the ass. Most vegetarian sugar will use the word "raw" but they're not required by law to list the ingredients on sugar, because if it can be counted as sugar, glucose, fructose, any of your chemical "sugars" regardless of the source, they can legally just put 'sugar'.

Like a lot of shit has meat in it that you wouldn't think has meat in it.

The chips, btw, I don't know if this is universal or not, but it seems like certain flavors are cooked in animal fat and certain flavors are cooked in veggie oils- but again, this is just me looking them up when I used to be a vegetarian and might not be generalization. It seemed to me that pretty all BBQ flavors were cooked in pork fat. Like it was so common that I just quit eating and BBQ chips.

Most beer has fish in it for reasons that I've never been able to figure out because I didn't research it beyond finding out that fact. That's just one of those weird things. Lipsticks also usually have fish in them.

Any medicine in a gel cap is probably made out of gelatin, which is, of course, made from animals.

Ice cream sometimes has beaver in it, that's another interesting one- and they're not required to list it- like here's the thing.

I went veggie because I wanted to boycott factory farming, not because I wanted to be healthy- like let's be real I have never given a single fuck about my health or I'd have quit smoking and started exercising. But after a few years I learned that there is no ethical consumption under capitalism and I just couldn't escape it. You try and you try and then there's fucking duck and chicken in your bagels for no goddamn reason, and you have to go digging to find out that fact because the FDA just doesn't make people list shit for some reason.

So my conclusion is eat what you want, we're all going to die and nothing we do matters so fuck it.

But if you're not a jaded asshole seriously just wean yourself off instead of going cold turkey. Eat smaller and smaller meat portions, do meatless mondays, whatever.

I'm going to be honest and say that I was never weirdly obsessed with meat like some people are. If it's in front of me I'll eat it, but if you give me a meatless meal I'll eat that too. I'm just happy to be here.

I wish we'd source it more ethically, and I try to raise my own chickens and hunt and whatnot, but it's really, really easy to get discouraged because it's the whole fucking system.

 

[toeskr]

I don't know that that's the case. A lot of vegetarian food is both salty and fatty. Like me deep frying my doughnuts in corn oil is a little bit better than frying them in lard but like... I mean I'm still killing myself.

It depends on whether you're eating healthy or not. I've never been healthy in my life but I was a vegetarian for years.

What you're missing when you're not eating meat isn't really a dietary thing (unless you go full vegan, then take a B12 or whatever- I can't remember which one you only get from dairy, but there's some vitamin that it's really hard to get because people won't eat mushrooms for whatever reason) it's a psychological thing and a convenience thing. I mean it's not "I am craving fats therefore I will eat fats and the meat craving will go away". It's like, "I want a cheeseburger because I like the taste." Even though you don't really need anything from a cheeseburger.

If it's not an ethical thing, like if you're doing it for your health, honestly the best thing to do is just eat what you're craving but less of it.

If you really, really want to get away from meat completely you can just wean yourself off of it by doing that, too. I've seen people do it.

Also, not for nothing, but a lot of chips aren't vegetarian, so check the ingredients. A lot of them are fried in tallow, pork fat or chicken fat. That's just a thing the industry does and they don't have to label it- I can't remember what it is but it's written in such a way that you have to know what to look for. It's like, "Natural flavorings" or something like that, some real bullshit convoluted thing.

Also most processed sugar has a preservative made from bone meal in it, and it's like IN there, like mixed in with the sugar so it's not like you can sift it out. So that's a pain in the ass. Most vegetarian sugar will use the word "raw" but they're not required by law to list the ingredients on sugar, because if it can be counted as sugar, glucose, fructose, any of your chemical "sugars" regardless of the source, they can legally just put 'sugar'.

Like a lot of shit has meat in it that you wouldn't think has meat in it.

The chips, btw, I don't know if this is universal or not, but it seems like certain flavors are cooked in animal fat and certain flavors are cooked in veggie oils- but again, this is just me looking them up when I used to be a vegetarian and might not be generalization. It seemed to me that pretty all BBQ flavors were cooked in pork fat. Like it was so common that I just quit eating and BBQ chips.

Most beer has fish in it for reasons that I've never been able to figure out because I didn't research it beyond finding out that fact. That's just one of those weird things. Lipsticks also usually have fish in them.

Any medicine in a gel cap is probably made out of gelatin, which is, of course, made from animals.

Ice cream sometimes has beaver in it, that's another interesting one- and they're not required to list it- like here's the thing.

I went veggie because I wanted to boycott factory farming, not because I wanted to be healthy- like let's be real I have never given a single fuck about my health or I'd have quit smoking and started exercising. But after a few years I learned that there is no ethical consumption under capitalism and I just couldn't escape it. You try and you try and then there's fucking duck and chicken in your bagels for no goddamn reason, and you have to go digging to find out that fact because the FDA just doesn't make people list shit for some reason.

So my conclusion is eat what you want, we're all going to die and nothing we do matters so fuck it.

But if you're not a jaded asshole seriously just wean yourself off instead of going cold turkey. Eat smaller and smaller meat portions, do meatless mondays, whatever.

I'm going to be honest and say that I was never weirdly obsessed with meat like some people are. If it's in front of me I'll eat it, but if you give me a meatless meal I'll eat that too. I'm just happy to be here.

I wish we'd source it more ethically, and I try to raise my own chickens and hunt and whatnot, but it's really, really easy to get discouraged because it's the whole fucking system.

Like a thousand words or so.

Put the meth pipe down, step away from the keyboard.

Take a break. Dress up as a man, take a walk, enjoy nature and just breathe.

No tricks, no worries.