Man Claims Right To Have Sex With Boys

[vampiredust]

this guy is a fucking sicko, hope they lock him up and throw away the key

 

[CharleyH]

Wow.

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Ohio Man Claims Right To Have Sex With Boys
Admitted Pedophile Says Children Can Consent

Unfortunately, the claim is not really that uncommon among pedophiles. In fact, I'd argue that it is probably the most common claim amongst them (many of whom where themselves once innocents in a world of pedophiles).

What's really sad is that they cannot see anything wrong with it, and that begs the question 'why?' to me, or at least it begs a question more than a bullet to someones head.

 

[CharleyH]

all the above points are good; children require protection; also the mentally or physically handicapped.

that said, i'm not at all keen on the state getting involved in 'protecting' 14-17 years olds. i think these young persons should be treated as mature, and they should be educated, not shepherded and chaperoned by social workers (with the cops at their beck and call) and insulated by high school curricula that exclude books like Catcher in the Rye.

Indeed. I am not sure I can make a distinction between what a pedophile does to a child who is handicapped and one who is not - it's all the same to me - has different effects, but is just as detrimental.

And YES! I completely agree with you on the rest, Pure. Fortunately, I went to high school in a world where Catcher was on the curriculum.

 

[Boxlicker101]

all the above points are good; children require protection; also the mentally or physically handicapped.

that said, i'm not at all keen on the state getting involved in 'protecting' 14-17 years olds. i think these young persons should be treated as mature, and they should be educated, not shepherded and chaperoned by social workers (with the cops at their beck and call) and insulated by high school curricula that exclude books like Catcher in the Rye.

This is scarey, because I find myself once more agreeing with you, at least partly. I do know that when I was 14, if some guy had wanted to suck me off, I would have been all for the idea. If a female teacher had wanted me to have sex with her, I would have been 100% in favor of that too. I would have considered myself to be lucky, not a victim, and any of my buddies who found out about it would have called me a lucky bum.

However, in this case, the boys were retarded or autistic, or had similar problems. That would be another matter completely.

 

[CharleyH]

This is scarey, because I find myself once more agreeing with you, at least partly. I do know that when I was 14, if some guy had wanted to suck me off, I would have been all for the idea. If a female teacher had wanted me to have sex with her, I would have been 100% in favor of that too. I would have considered myself to be lucky, not a victim, and any of my buddies who found out about it would have called me a lucky bum.

However, in this case, the boys were retarded or autistic, or had similar problems. That would be another matter completely.

He is not refering to being handicapped in this latter instance, I am afraid. But does retardation and autism make the rape any worse?

I think 14, at least when I was in high school, is an age where young women begin to experiment and if some BF wanted to suck me off at that age or even knew what a clit was? Well, I'd have been a lot further along in understanding pleasure before I actually did at 21. Somehow, sex courses in high school forget to discuss the female orgasm.

 

[Boxlicker101]

He is not refering to being handicapped in this latter instance, I am afraid. But does retardation and autism make the rape any worse?

I think 14, at least when I was in high school, is an age where young women begin to experiment and if some BF wanted to suck me off at that age or even knew what a clit was? Well, I'd have been a lot further along in understanding pleasure before I actually did at 21. Somehow, sex courses in high school forget to discuss the female orgasm.

The article doesn't say just what was done sexually, and it does make a difference. As I said, if some guy wanted to suck me off, I would have been all for it. If he wanted me to suck him off, or wanted to fuck my ass, that would have been completely different.

If it's actually forcible rape, that is having sex with a person against that person's wishes, retardation or autism would make it worse, but only marginally so.

Boys and girls both start to experiment at about 14. When I was in high school, from 1953 through 1957, Sex Ed. was unheard of, except for being hinted at in Biology courses. When I was a teenager, I and most of my contemporaries thought of sex and dancing as being quite similar, but from different sides. Sex was something girls and women weren't much interested in, but they were willing to participate for money or other benefit. Females did little or nothing to correct this misconception. Dancing was something that didn't interest males, but women liked it enough that guys were willing to join in in hope of reaping some benefit such as, hopefully, having sex.

We were not completely right in these beliefs but we were not completely wrong either.

 

[Joe Wordsworth]

I don't know that I entirely trust the judgement of the average 14 year old.

 

[CharleyH]

I don't know that I entirely trust the judgement of the average 14 year old.

Boy or girl? Chicks know when to say no. Boys? Well ...

Edit to add: OKAY FINE! Educated chicks know when to say no.

 

[Boxlicker101]

I don't know that I entirely trust the judgement of the average 14 year old.

Nobody does, which is why they are not allowed to vote, drive, get married or many other things. However, for most boys that age, it doesn't really take much judgement to know they want to have sex with girls or women or, failing that, with men who will do the things the girls or women would be doing.

 

[CharleyH]

Nobody does, which is why they are not allowed to vote, drive, get married or many other things. However, for most boys that age, it doesn't really take much judgement to know they want to have sex with girls or women or, failing that, with men who will do the things the girls or women would be doing.

You give such little credit to women and their sexuality. And fortunately? I stayed away from boys like you.

 

[Boxlicker101]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Boxlicker101
Nobody does, which is why they are not allowed to vote, drive, get married or many other things. However, for most boys that age, it doesn't really take much judgement to know they want to have sex with girls or women or, failing that, with men who will do the things the girls or women would be doing.

You give such little credit to women and their sexuality. And fortunately? I stayed away from boys like you.

I was referring to 14 year old boys, not to myself now. Have you ever read any of my stories? Except for the gay male stories, they all describe women having a great time sexually.

 

[CharleyH]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Boxlicker101
However, for most boys that age, it doesn't really take much judgement to know they want to have sex with girls or women or, failing that, with men who will do the things the girls or women would be doing.

I was referring to 14 year old boys, not to myself now. Have you ever read any of my stories? Except for the gay male stories, they all describe women having a great time sexually.

Do I have to read your stories to get a 14-year-old's girls mind set? You think boys are the only ones thinking of sex at that age? WHOA! LOL.

 

[Lisa Denton]

all the above points are good; children require protection; also the mentally or physically handicapped.

that said, i'm not at all keen on the state getting involved in 'protecting' 14-17 years olds. i think these young persons should be treated as mature, and they should be educated, not shepherded and chaperoned by social workers (with the cops at their beck and call) and insulated by high school curricula that exclude books like Catcher in the Rye.

They said all except one of the victims was 13 years old or younger, and add the autism and he might as well have been raping an infant, unable to defend themselves or even understand what happened or report it.

Some of the parents of the victims testified before the sentencing. The parents of one victim said he now runs and hides from his father at bath time, apparently he understands enough to know that he is a child, mentally handicapped, and a victim.

Now he has fear of his own father to keep him warm and fuzzy at night.

Children mature differently at different ages, autism adds a completely new and complex series of problems into thier intellectual maturity. They should be shepherded and chaperoned and guarded at 14 to 17 years old.

There was a case here in texas, a handicapped bus driver raped a 14 year old mentally handicapped girl. I think it was autism. They said basically all that she understood of the attack was that she was "dirty," and would always be "dirty."

They had to form a ring of cops around the suspect who was wearing a bullet-proof vest to take him to trial and stuff, in texas the huge amount of death threats were not considered idle threats.

 

[Boxlicker101]

Do I have to read your stories to get a 14-year-old's girls mind set? You think boys are the only ones thinking of sex at that age? WHOA! LOL.

I hope not. I have never written about anybody any younger than 18.

It has been many decades since I was 14, but I believe that when a boy thinks about girls, outside of thinking of them as classmates, sisters, etc., he thinks of them as sex objects. When a girl thinks about boys, she thinks of them as dates or dance partners and less as sex objects.

I realize things have changed since 1954, which was when I turned 14, but I don't think they have changed that much. I would be willing to bet that boys are usually still the primary aggressors when it comes to kissing and petting, and trying to go further than that, and it's usually the girls who say something like "I'm not ready for that yet," rather than vice-versa. That's not a complaint, you understand, because it's probably for the best. It is strictly an opinion. You will notice that I said "usually".

 

[Lee Chambers]

They had to form a ring of cops around the suspect who was wearing a bullet-proof vest to take him to trial and stuff, in texas the huge amount of death threats were not considered idle threats.

Damn right. When we tell someone we're going to horribly maim and kill them, we're not making threats. We're forming a plan of action.

 

[starrkers]

I hope not. I have never written about anybody any younger than 18.

It has been many decades since I was 14, but I believe that when a boy thinks about girls, outside of thinking of them as classmates, sisters, etc., he thinks of them as sex objects. When a girl thinks about boys, she thinks of them as dates or dance partners and less as sex objects.

I realize things have changed since 1954, which was when I turned 14, but I don't think they have changed that much. I would be willing to bet that boys are usually still the primary aggressors when it comes to kissing and petting, and trying to go further than that, and it's usually the girls who say something like "I'm not ready for that yet," rather than vice-versa. That's not a complaint, you understand, because it's probably for the best. It is strictly an opinion. You will notice that I said "usually".

As the parent of a 14 yo girl I can say, they definitely do see blokes in terms of their looks and "hotness". But there is still a large base of "eeewwwww" in terms of sexual behaviour. And the boys their own age group are generally dorks, regardless of anything else!

 

[CharleyH]

The article doesn't say just what was done sexually, and it does make a difference. As I said, if some guy wanted to suck me off, I would have been all for it. If he wanted me to suck him off, or wanted to fuck my ass, that would have been completely different.

If it's actually forcible rape, that is having sex with a person against that person's wishes, retardation or autism would make it worse, but only marginally so.

Boys and girls both start to experiment at about 14. When I was in high school, from 1953 through 1957, Sex Ed. was unheard of, except for being hinted at in Biology courses. When I was a teenager, I and most of my contemporaries thought of sex and dancing as being quite similar, but from different sides. Sex was something girls and women weren't much interested in, but they were willing to participate for money or other benefit. Females did little or nothing to correct this misconception. Dancing was something that didn't interest males, but women liked it enough that guys were willing to join in in hope of reaping some benefit such as, hopefully, having sex.

We were not completely right in these beliefs but we were not completely wrong either.

I was asking your opinion. Thanks for the give. I do not agree that retardation or autism makes the experience worse. Can anything be worse for any one?

Sex wasn't someting what? LOL I am sure my elders would beg to differ with you on the rest - whoa man? Where did you grow up?

 

[Lisa Denton]

Damn right. When we tell someone we're going to horribly maim and kill them, we're not making threats. We're forming a plan of action.

Yes, and the cops knew it. But I bet it was hard for those cops, put in the position where they might have to shoot into the crowd, or take a bullet to protect someone, that they really wanted to throw to the crowd.

In texas gun control is sometimes using both hands, and cases like this can make a person lose control. Luckily cooler heads prevailed, and the cops was right, nobody wanted to risk hitting an innocent cop with a bullet, but some punches were thrown and the cops with riot gear had to run out and push the crowd back.

I dunno if they was gonna lynch the guy. Most reasonable people wanted to wait, and lynch him after he was found guilty. You know, justice and all.

 

[Boxlicker101]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Boxlicker101
The article doesn't say just what was done sexually, and it does make a difference. As I said, if some guy wanted to suck me off, I would have been all for it. If he wanted me to suck him off, or wanted to fuck my ass, that would have been completely different.

If it's actually forcible rape, that is having sex with a person against that person's wishes, retardation or autism would make it worse, but only marginally so.

Boys and girls both start to experiment at about 14. When I was in high school, from 1953 through 1957, Sex Ed. was unheard of, except for being hinted at in Biology courses. When I was a teenager, I and most of my contemporaries thought of sex and dancing as being quite similar, but from different sides. Sex was something girls and women weren't much interested in, but they were willing to participate for money or other benefit. Females did little or nothing to correct this misconception. Dancing was something that didn't interest males, but women liked it enough that guys were willing to join in in hope of reaping some benefit such as, hopefully, having sex.

We were not completely right in these beliefs but we were not completely wrong either.

I was asking your opinion. Thanks for the give. I do not agree that retardation or autism makes the experience worse. Can anything be worse for any one?

Sex wasn't someting what? LOL I am sure my elders would beg to differ with you on the rest - whoa man? Where did you grow up?

What I mean is that a person who rapes young children like this guy did, asuming it was forcible rape, is one of the foulest persons in the world, and deserves to be stomped to death by enraged parents. If his victims suffer from autism or retardation, he is an even worse monster because, besides the physical pain being inflicted, there would be the mental torment of wondering what is happening. Either way, there would be no way to punish him excessively.

I was raised in a small midwestern town. What I said was that, when I was 14 years old, my contemporaries and I believed that dancing and sex were much alike. We believed that most girls and women had no interest in having sex. We were supported in this belief by the girls we knew who didn't even want to think about sex, much less indulge in it. However, money or other things of value, such as jewelry, or other benefit such as marriage, might induce a woman to be willing to have sex. This was simplistic, but not completely incorrect at that time, and that is still the case. Most straight men, if there is nothing stopping them, will indulge in casual sex at every opportunity, whereas most women would not do so. This is not as extreme as it was fifty years ago but it is still the case.

Girls and women liked to dance a lot more than males did. It was quite common to see two girls dancing together because most boys didn't like to dance. However, there was a remote possibility that dancing with a girl might, eventually, help induce her to be willing to have sex. Not dancing with her would make the possibility of sex even more remote, so boys learned to dance and stumbled around on the dance floor, even though most of them didn't really want to, and would rather have been sitting around listerning to music or talking about sports with their buddies.

This is still the case. Men will take women to places and dance with them, but that is in hope of having sex with them later. Once they are married and there is no longer any reason to dance, men are much less likely to do so, unless they are willing to accomodate their women folk. If you ask married women, I believe you will find that their husbands are much less interested in dancing now than they were during courtship.

 

[CharleyH]

Box? I am certain you did not get what I said. I still love ya, though.