Mama Blu's

foggy in head
sitting on my bed
not tired enough for sleep
and the fatigue begins to creep

But not bad.

How are you?

freezing off my feet
shivering under sheets
trying to stay awake
wishing the voices would take a break.

Eh...not great.

[laughs]
 
freezing off my feet
shivering under sheets
trying to stay awake
wishing the voices would take a break.

Eh...not great.

[laughs]

conversing in rhyme
is all well and fine
for those who're unused
their brains feel abused
but the effort is never a waste
 
Wow! Totally missed the boat for the past few days. Sorry guys. Ebay is a bad bad thing. [laughs]

Hope everyone has a great weekend! I will probably spend it freezing my ass off. Now don't get me wrong, I could use a few inches off my ass but this was not the way I envisioned doing it. :eek:
 
No kidding on that cold, just got my electric bill for last month and ow...that's the highest I've had in two years.
 
Cover Charge Sun 1/19

Okay people, help me out here.

Perhaps I have just been married too long and out of the dating scene. But I don't understand all these notions of 'dating'.

To my mind, dating is a relationship. Now you can have all sorts of styles of relationships but to have the notion that one can date without having one is silly. (at least to me)

The fact is any interaction that 2 people have on a consistent basis denotes a relationship of some kind~ acquaintance, friendship, casually dating, monogamous dating, engagement, marriage, etc.. So the idea that you can have a 'fuck buddy' and somehow avoid the dreaded word 'relationship' is impossible.

It seems to be that these words are designed and come into being so that people can feel either a) more in control or b) can express an area of limitations. As in we can be casual friends and fuck, but don't expect me to be a serious part of your life, don't rely on me for anything beyond a laugh and sex.

Which, hey all well and good, but either way it is still a relationship.

What do you guys think? Am I missing something?

Blu :kiss:
 
Okay people, help me out here.

Perhaps I have just been married too long and out of the dating scene. But I don't understand all these notions of 'dating'.

To my mind, dating is a relationship. Now you can have all sorts of styles of relationships but to have the notion that one can date without having one is silly. (at least to me)

The fact is any interaction that 2 people have on a consistent basis denotes a relationship of some kind~ acquaintance, friendship, casually dating, monogamous dating, engagement, marriage, etc.. So the idea that you can have a 'fuck buddy' and somehow avoid the dreaded word 'relationship' is impossible.

It seems to be that these words are designed and come into being so that people can feel either a) more in control or b) can express an area of limitations. As in we can be casual friends and fuck, but don't expect me to be a serious part of your life, don't rely on me for anything beyond a laugh and sex.

Which, hey all well and good, but either way it is still a relationship.

What do you guys think? Am I missing something?

Blu :kiss:

Lol!

A fuck buddy is still a 'relationship' just like a friendship is....it's the heavy implication of the word that freaks people out!!

I have relationships with everybody I know!! ;)

And yes, dating is way different than when you got married, or I did, those many moons ago. Back then, it was fun, let's go out, hey, we can make out for a while, maybe we'll fuck....Now, it's like a fucking minefield! :eek:
 
Lol!

A fuck buddy is still a 'relationship' just like a friendship is....it's the heavy implication of the word that freaks people out!!

I have relationships with everybody I know!! ;)

And yes, dating is way different than when you got married, or I did, those many moons ago. Back then, it was fun, let's go out, hey, we can make out for a while, maybe we'll fuck....Now, it's like a fucking minefield! :eek:

But see, don't you think we put those implications on things. We make assumptions about what others want and I think people in general think by removing the word 'relationship' that they have somehow removed the concept of it.
 
Okay people, help me out here.

Perhaps I have just been married too long and out of the dating scene. But I don't understand all these notions of 'dating'.

It seems to be that these words are designed and come into being so that people can feel either a) more in control or b) can express an area of limitations. As in we can be casual friends and fuck, but don't expect me to be a serious part of your life, don't rely on me for anything beyond a laugh and sex.

Which, hey all well and good, but either way it is still a relationship.

What do you guys think? Am I missing something?

Blu :kiss:

No you are right Blu. I have an older son (26) and the things he says sometimes puzzle me, although he does them rarely. At one time he was going out with three girls but it was fine as they all knew about it and they all had a 'Non Exclusive Dating Arrangement'. What the heck is that? Ok for one or two dates fair enough but this was for several months.
Then this new one of 'Fuck Buddies'. As you say you still have your friendship with the person so you do have a relationship. Just not a lovey dovey one. Still I'm pretty sure that if i am regularly having sex with someone and she starts seeing other guys i might become a little jealous no matter what, it's just natural.
 
But see, don't you think we put those implications on things. We make assumptions about what others want and I think people in general think by removing the word 'relationship' that they have somehow removed the concept of it.

Of course...don't you put implications on things?

But because the implication of the word is something heavy, there is an unspoken rule not to use it unless there is a desire for what would be considered a 'RELATIONSHIP'.

I'm not saying it's right...but if you don't learn to read between the lines, you don't get very far.
 
Okay people, help me out here.

Perhaps I have just been married too long and out of the dating scene. But I don't understand all these notions of 'dating'.

To my mind, dating is a relationship. Now you can have all sorts of styles of relationships but to have the notion that one can date without having one is silly. (at least to me)

The fact is any interaction that 2 people have on a consistent basis denotes a relationship of some kind~ acquaintance, friendship, casually dating, monogamous dating, engagement, marriage, etc.. So the idea that you can have a 'fuck buddy' and somehow avoid the dreaded word 'relationship' is impossible.

It seems to be that these words are designed and come into being so that people can feel either a) more in control or b) can express an area of limitations. As in we can be casual friends and fuck, but don't expect me to be a serious part of your life, don't rely on me for anything beyond a laugh and sex.

Which, hey all well and good, but either way it is still a relationship.

What do you guys think? Am I missing something?

Blu :kiss:

In a lot of cases, I would say using the terms "fuck buddy" or "friends with benefits" can serve one of two purposes: Prettying up a completely casual situation in which there are no feelings beyond sex (booty call) or creating a circumstance where you don't have to invest emotionally in the relationship (emotional armor) and can plausibly argue (at least in your head) it means nothing should it not work, ie we didn't break up because we weren't really together.

In my opinion, if you are doing all the things you would do with a friend (hanging out together and socializing) plus you are sleeping with her, you should own it and embrace her as your girlfriend because that is what she is...leaving it vague and ambiguous can create more problems than it helps but no one really knows what their responsibilities and duties are and feelings can get hurt.
 
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No you are right Blu. I have an older son (26) and the things he says sometimes puzzle me, although he does them rarely. At one time he was going out with three girls but it was fine as they all knew about it and they all had a 'Non Exclusive Dating Arrangement'. What the heck is that? Ok for one or two dates fair enough but this was for several months.
Then this new one of 'Fuck Buddies'. As you say you still have your friendship with the person so you do have a relationship. Just not a lovey dovey one. Still I'm pretty sure that if i am regularly having sex with someone and she starts seeing other guys i might become a little jealous no matter what, it's just natural.

I don't know... 'Non exclusive dating arrangement' sounds very precise. It shows that there is a relationship but it is not exclusive.. of course back in my day that was called just 'dating'. [laughs]

And 'fuck buddy' I think is kind of silly. I mean if you like hanging out with the person as a friend. And you enjoy sex with them... well um... that sounds like a good person to consider a relationship with. [laughs] Hubs is my best friend. We have a blast as friends AND lovers, that's how we know each other was 'the one'. Ya know?


Of course...don't you put implications on things?

But because the implication of the word is something heavy, there is an unspoken rule not to use it unless there is a desire for what would be considered a 'RELATIONSHIP'.

I'm not saying it's right...but if you don't learn to read between the lines, you don't get very far.

See, I think it is that whole 'read between the lines' mentality that creates most of the drama. How about people just freaking say what they mean and mean what they say? What the hell is so wrong with that concept?
 
In a lot of cases, I would say using the terms "fuck buddy" or "friends with benefits" can serve one of two purposes: Prettying up a completely casual situation in which there are no feelings beyond sex (booty call) or creating a circumstance where you don't have to invest emotionally in the relationship (emotional armor) and can plausibly argue (at least in your head) it means nothing should it not work, ie we didn't break up because we weren't really together.

In my opinion, if you are doing all the things you would do with a friend (hanging out together and socializing) plus you are sleeping with her, you should own it and embrace her as your girlfriend because that is what she is...leaving it vague and ambiguous can create more problems than it helps but no one really knows what their responsibilities and duties are and feelings can get hurt.

I agree, Papa, but what if you don't want a girlfriend? (or boyfriend?) but you still want to have fun?

I don't know... 'Non exclusive dating arrangement' sounds very precise. It shows that there is a relationship but it is not exclusive.. of course back in my day that was called just 'dating'. [laughs]

And 'fuck buddy' I think is kind of silly. I mean if you like hanging out with the person as a friend. And you enjoy sex with them... well um... that sounds like a good person to consider a relationship with. [laughs] Hubs is my best friend. We have a blast as friends AND lovers, that's how we know each other was 'the one'. Ya know?




See, I think it is that whole 'read between the lines' mentality that creates most of the drama. How about people just freaking say what they mean and mean what they say? What the hell is so wrong with that concept?

I'm totally with ya on that one....I say it all the time! The problem lies in the fact that if you say what you mean and mean what you say, the other person runs for the hills!

Honesty is something very few people have the stomach for, even if they say they want it.
 
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