Makeup...your thoughts.

[Xectxny19X]

I had a little discussion at work about makeup...eeeh...we talk about all sorts of random things at work! *embarassed look* I was just wondering what everyone else thinks about it. I'm not sure if this is even the right thread to post this in..but being I'm a part of the GLBT community, I thought it would be suitable. If not, please transfer me to the right thread. Thanx. *smiles* Here's my 2 cents:

a thought: makeup.. a lot people say you're more real if you don't wear any.. or nice and plain.. well if you're a plain person no makeup suits u well.. but i know that that's not me.. nor many other people.. i feel that makeup is a form of creativity.. and expressing who u are.. just as clothes and everything else we do are.. makeup goes the same way... people are beautiful as long as they are who they are.. and sometimes wearing makeup makes you more real, but it's also used as something to hide yourself behind.. if that's the case if people need to hide let them do so.. until they find out who they really are, they can't express themselves. I don't know... just something i was thinkkin about.

 

[fenderman68]

Personally, I think when it comes to make-up, less is better(especially when it comes to your gorgeous face)!!! But, if you want to use it to express yourself then I say...."You Go Girl!!!"

 

[deezire1900]

I like just enough to even out my skin and make my eyes pop.

I am not a plain girl, but I also don't wear it like a mask.

I get your point of people who hide behind it...like they are not good enough...that is sad.

 

[John Doe]

Make-up is deception, like certain kinds of bras.

 

[Never]

I think there is a difference between physical beauty and fashionable looks. Beauty is a product of biology and is universal, physical symmetry is a good example. Fashionable looks is a product of situations within specific cultures.

Make-up is symbolic; it suggests conforming to your culture's notion of feminine attractiveness. (Unless it's worn by a man or worn in an 'unusual' way) This is not innately bad. Mindless conformity and severe punishment of nonconformity are the problems.

I also disagree that make-up is a form of deception. It's an expression of a person's attitude toward femininity, sexuality, age. Calling make-up deceptive is a bit like calling nylons, shoulder pads, hair gel, and shaving deceptive.

As for my personal preferences, I rarely notice make-up. Slap it on or wear none, I find that it enhances the face but cannot effect a person's attractiveness in a major way. It can be part of a complete package of make-up, jewelry, clothing, and scents that serve to make a woman attractive, however.

 

[Equinoxe]

When I wear make-up it's not to try to make my face look different in some inherent beauty capacity, but rather a concern of style. For me wearing make-up is no different than wearing a nice outfit. It has more to do with dressing up and cultural ideas than it has to do with changing (in any real sense) the way I look.

Thus I would say that it's not deceptive any more than clothes are deceptive; it's simply a versatile part of an outfit. At least from my perspective.

 

[deezire1900]

Deezire does not need a push-up bra!

 

[John Doe]

I also disagree that make-up is a form of deception. It's an expression of a person's attitude toward femininity, sexuality, age. Calling make-up deceptive is a bit like calling nylons, shoulder pads, hair gel, and shaving deceptive.

Actually, I think shoulder pads are deceptive too. Everything else you mentioned does not necessarily cover up or change what's already there, like make-up does.

Take concealer or foundation for example. They are designed to cover up blemishes and to give the appearance of even skin tone. Mascara makes the eyelashes appear larger and more full than they really are.

 

[Meat Whistler]

I also disagree that make-up is a form of deception. It's an expression of a person's attitude toward femininity, sexuality, age. Calling make-up deceptive is a bit like calling nylons, shoulder pads, hair gel, and shaving deceptive.

As for my personal preferences, I rarely notice make-up. Slap it on or wear none, I find that it enhances the face but cannot effect a person's attractiveness in a major way. It can be part of a complete package of make-up, jewelry, clothing, and scents that serve to make a woman attractive, however.

I completely agree with this sentiment. I feel that makeup enhances a woman's natural beauty and thus adds to her attractiveness, much like a scent, clothing, or jewelry. I don't think it's deceptive and that certainly wasn't the intent of makeup.

 

[John Doe]

I completely agree with this sentiment. I feel that makeup enhances a woman's natural beauty and thus adds to her attractiveness, much like a scent, clothing, or jewelry. I don't think it's deceptive and that certainly wasn't the intent of makeup.

Enhancement changes what's there, or more specifically, improves it beyond what it would be by itsself. In the case of appearance, it gives the appearance that something is better than it really is. That's deceptive.

Although, please note that despite the default connotation, I do not mean deceptive in a negative way. I personally don't object to make-up or bras.

Shoulder pads are pretty stupid though, and sooo '80s.

 

[deezire1900]

I don't like fake hair, braids, extensions. It weirds me out.

 

[John Doe]

I don't like fake hair, braids, extensions. It weirds me out.

I especially don't get extensions. A lot of the women who use them have perfectly normal hiar growth, so why not just grow it out?

 

[deezire1900]

I am positive it has something to do with being the "now" generation.

 

[John Doe]

I am positive it has something to do with being the "now" generation.

The now generation, as in wanting instant gratification? A pill to make you smart/slim/grow back hair/get an erection/be good-looking/allow you to eat dairy products etc.?

 

[deezire1900]

The now generation, as in wanting instant gratification? A pill to make you smart/slim/grow back hair/get an erection/be good-looking/allow you to eat dairy products etc.?

Yep, That's my peeps...love us or hate us.

I see it in me at work.

 

[PanosGreece]

As a man I'd have to say that even though makeup adds to the natural beauty it shouldn't keep others from the 'real' you.
For example,
a girl that wears makeup and looks beautiful but only because of the makeup is not something I want
but in contrast a girl that even though without makeup is cute is something I would want.
A man prefers to wake up next to a nice and natural face instead of a face with makeup/ruined makeup/no makeup+ugly
just my thoughts on this

 

[Etoile]

I especially don't get extensions. A lot of the women who use them have perfectly normal hiar growth, so why not just grow it out?

Yeah, I'd agree that it's impatience. It does take a while to grow out your hair. And all the perms and dyes and products we tend to use these days do damage hair.

Actually, now that I think about it, I myself have what those people are looking for. And I know what a drag it can be. I have very long hair - below my waist now - and it is a real pain in the neck. Probably half of it is split ends, especially the very tips (which we do trim about once a year). But it's so hard to maintain hair like this - I shower at night because I wouldn't have time to do it in the morning, with washing and drying and everything! Extensions let people try it out for a while, see what they look like with long hair, feel pretty...and then have it taken off when they get tired of it.

Oh, and movie stars probably do it so they can be flexible. I'm thinking of Halle Berry in particular - she keeps her hair quite short, but she's shown up in movies (like Gothika) with longer hair. If she keeps her hair short and uses extensions, she can match whatever hairstyle the director wants her to have.

 

[College_geek]

I only wear make-up on special occassions. I sometimes wear it in my pictures, but only sometimes. I prefer to be natural, mainly because I think I usually look kind of dumb in make-up, but for a formal dinner or a concert or something, I'll put some eye liner on.

 

[SweetErika]

I have always loved makeup, but I don't wear it all the time or a lot of it. I like experimenting, and like how it changes different features in a subtle way. Good or bad, I often feel better and more confident when I'm wearing it, but I think the important ideas are that I'm doing it for myself and I like myself without it (I remember seeing a woman on a tv show who'd get up 2 hours early so her hubby wouldn't see her without hair or makeup done...he hadn't seen her pre-routine in 15 years...*shudders*).

 

[deezire1900]

pre-routine

I have always loved makeup, but I don't wear it all the time or a lot of it. I like experimenting, and like how it changes different features in a subtle way. Good or bad, I often feel better and more confident when I'm wearing it, but I think the important ideas are that I'm doing it for myself and I like myself without it (I remember seeing a woman on a tv show who'd get up 2 hours early so her hubby wouldn't see her without hair or makeup done...he hadn't seen her pre-routine in 15 years...*shudders*).

It hink this happens more then we know. My mom was like this, but after her bout with breast cancer she has a better attitude about being natural. My step-fater just loves her, with or without all the paint.

Last night I wore heavier then usual make-up, but I went to a play party...it was a blast. I wanted my cheeks and eyes to POP.

 

[Raine D8]

Make-up is symbolic; it suggests conforming to your culture's notion of feminine attractiveness. (Unless it's worn by a man or worn in an 'unusual' way) This is not innately bad. Mindless conformity and severe punishment of nonconformity are the problems.

Make-up can be used in a highly codified way, particularly in pop culture, but symbolic of feminine attractiveness? I disagree. Certain elements are symbolic/emulate elements of heterosexual sex, yes. Example: the movie, 'Thelma and Lousie'. lipstick and blush.

It can be part of a complete package of make-up, jewelry, clothing, and scents that serve to make a woman attractive, however.

In light of your previous sentiments, I am hoping you mean to 'make a woman FEEL attractive'.

 

[Luna_Wolf72]

As a rule

I don't wear make-up very often..usually just when I am doing fetish photos or taking my grrl out. Even then it's only eyeliner, lipgloss and mascara. Anything else seems almost a mask for me to hide behind. (not only that but I feel too un~ feminine most days to even want to put it on...)

 

[Mermaid]

a thought: makeup.. a lot people say you're more real if you don't wear any.. or nice and plain.. well if you're a plain person no makeup suits u well.. but i know that that's not me.. nor many other people.. i feel that makeup is a form of creativity.. and expressing who u are.. just as clothes and everything else we do are.. makeup goes the same way... people are beautiful as long as they are who they are.. and sometimes wearing makeup makes you more real, but it's also used as something to hide yourself behind.. if that's the case if people need to hide let them do so.. until they find out who they really are, they can't express themselves. I don't know... just something i was thinkkin about.

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Always a pleasure to field a question from you, dear!

I see make up as a personal choice issue. When a person wears make up well, it looks natural on them, and does not detract from their natural beauty.

In the case of yourself, you could get out of bed, swig mouthwash and walk out the door wearing jammies and still look fine enough for public consumption! But I have also been privy to see how you look with make up, and the artistry that you put into it. You like to play with your darker side, and bring that out with make up, and that looks yummy too.

As for myself, I usually walk around without make up, but really enjoy doing it up for a night out! So I go either way.

 

[geishaGirl]

I am someone who wears makeup fairly routinely, though I when I was younger I wouldn't go a day without wearing it! At that time it had gotten to a point for me where my thinking was "I'm not beautiful/pretty (etc.) without makeup" so I kept wearing it for that "psychological boost".

Though I wore makeup every day I have never been a person to really lay it on thick on my skin. I prefer a lighter look for sure Nowadays I can happily go without wearing makeup - this is usually on weekends when I'm not working as I still like to wear makeup as part of my "professional" look, just like wearing work clothes - and sometimes I just like to wear a bit of eyeliner because I believe they are my best feature and I like the way eyeliner accentuates them

I do agree with some of the other opinions expressed here: makeup, for me, is a way of expressing myself and is also another form of preparing a certain look at times. I don't feel it "covers ME up", I really feel it shows my features well. However, that's not to say my skin doesn't love it when I cleanse the foundation off - I like my skin to breathe after a period of time wearing makeup.

 

[janisjoplin197888]

Actually, I think shoulder pads are deceptive too. Everything else you mentioned does not necessarily cover up or change what's already there, like make-up does.

Take concealer or foundation for example. They are designed to cover up blemishes and to give the appearance of even skin tone. Mascara makes the eyelashes appear larger and more full than they really are.

Are you speaking from experience here Stup.?