Lyrical Writing

[karaline]

The thread title was "Lyrical Writing," not "Writing Lyrics," and this is a story site, not a song writing site. It was just a disappointment not to see the thread more relevant to this site. It also became obvious folks wanted to talk about songs lyrics others have written not stories they could write.

Seriously, why don't you start your own thread Pilot?

I don't know if I'd have much to contribute but I'd certainly follow it with interest.

 

[oggbashan]

One of the quotes in the obituaries about Leonard Cohen was something like:

As a poet I thought I was successful if I sold 500 copies of a poetry book. But I was going broke so I decided to become a singer and write my own songs.

It paid much better than poetry.

 

[Hypoxia]

One of the quotes in the obituaries about Leonard Cohen was something like:

As a poet I thought I was successful if I sold 500 copies of a poetry book. But I was going broke so I decided to become a singer and write my own songs.

It paid much better than poetry.

One of my favorites:

Q: What is the difference between poetry and songwriting?
A: Royalties.

 

[sr71plt]

Seriously, why don't you start your own thread Pilot?

I don't know if I'd have much to contribute but I'd certainly follow it with interest.

I'm interested in what others would have to say on the topic, but am too busy with my own writing to get deep into a discussion of it. I have wanted to try more writing I would consider lyrical--and would maybe get inspiration from others discussing it--but my brand--where I get the best response and where there are niches that seem to be underserved but appreciated--has settled into rougher categories.

I see that you have read my "La Lectura." Did that seem to be in the lyrical vein to you? I would like to write more prose that "sings," but I don't want my style to become effeminate. Is there such a thing as muscular lyricism?

 

[ElectricBlue]

A little courtesy goes a long way with me, a very long way indeed. I have no problem with this thread evolving the way it is now, politely and with interest, rather than the initial hi-jack attempt. Just sayin'

I'm intrigued by your idea of 'muscular lyricism', Pilot, but why the notion that lyricism is somehow automatically effeminate? If you had used the word "feminine" I would agree that a gentler, more emotional voice is at work - but 'effeminate' (to me at least) implies something else. ie: you get effeminate men, but you don't get effeminate women.

Just because one writes poetically, lyrically (whatever that really means), doesn't mean you have an effeminate voice. I tap my feminine side in my writing, I think, but it's not effeminate - it's quite obviously the voice of a man who loves women.

Also the word 'feminist' comes into play as well, to add another subtlety.

 

[sr71plt]

A little courtesy goes a long way with me, a very long way indeed. I have no problem with this thread evolving the way it is now, politely and with interest, rather than the initial hi-jack attempt. Just sayin'

I'm intrigued by your idea of 'muscular lyricism', Pilot, but why the notion that lyricism is somehow automatically effeminate? If you had used the word "feminine" I would agree that a gentler, more emotional voice is at work - but 'effeminate' (to me at least) implies something else. ie: you get effeminate men, but you don't get effeminate women.

Just because one writes poetically, lyrically (whatever that really means), doesn't mean you have an effeminate voice. I tap my feminine side in my writing, I think, but it's not effeminate - it's quite obviously the voice of a man who loves women.

Also the word 'feminist' comes into play as well, to add another subtlety.

A literal interpretation of the thread title isn't a hijack. And threads aren't owned by the OP here anyway.

If I'm plugging--or interested in achieving--muscular lyricism, I'm not saying that lyricism is automatically effeminate, am I? And I don't in any way equate feminine with effeminate either.

But since you consider you own this thread and are more interested in song lyrics than prose writing on a story Web site, I'm happy leave it at that and to go back to reviewing my rough GM sex winter contest entry.

 

[karaline]

I see that you have read my "La Lectura." Did that seem to be in the lyrical vein to you?

I briefly scanned and it did seem lyrical, but mainly I faved it so I can come back later when I'm not in the middle of Nanowrimo and read it at my leisure.

 

[ElectricBlue]

A literal interpretation of the thread title isn't a hijack. And threads aren't owned by the OP here anyway.

If I'm plugging--or interested in achieving--muscular lyricism, I'm not saying that lyricism is automatically effeminate, am I? And I don't in any way equate feminine with effeminate either.

But since you consider you own this thread and are more interested in song lyrics than prose writing on a story Web site, I'm happy leave it at that and to go back to reviewing my rough GM sex winter contest entry.

I was actually trying to be friendly, also engaging with the evolving topic. It has obviously moved beyond song lyrics, as had my last comment. Yet you still go belligerent and bring it back around to something else. I shouldn't have bothered.

You were the one concerned that you didn't want your writing to get effeminate if you went lyrical. I was intrigued by the implied polarity, that's all.

 

[sr71plt]

I was actually trying to be friendly,

You certainly fooled me.

 

[ChloeTzang]

I do think "The Girl on the Motorcycle" is about the most lyrical piece of erotica writing I've read. Anyone else read that?

 

[Athalia]

I have a story here that I think commenters were putting into a lyrical writing category ("La Lectura": https://www.literotica.com/s/la-lectura). I was hoping to see discussion of more stories written like that on this thread, not just song lyrics.

Sorry to be late in chiming in on this, but I did read your story, and found that there were moments of lyricism in it. In the main, though, the lyricism wasn't what was carrying the story, but it provided an additional gloss. It was a good story.

It got me thinking about the differences in our two stories. I could only use metaphor to describe how a goddess would experience her first orgasm, when she had nothing to compare it to. Your protagonist had no need of this, so he was free to couch his experience in poetic terms or not. His lyricism was one of degree, not of kind. Are you following me on this? Or am I reading the wrong things into it?

 

[sr71plt]

Thanks. I think I follow that. With this story, I wasn't making an effort to be lyrical exactly as to maintain the cadence that a Lectura has when he's reading to the cigar workers.