Litiquette VI

[SassySheDevil]

Is this really true? No offense, but I kinda think of you more as stirring the pot than making comfort stew.

haha.. This ^^^^^

 

[Lord Pmann]

Is this really true? No offense, but I kinda think of you more as stirring the pot than making comfort stew.

None take. Lol. It’s true in that you can guarantee when there’s drama, in there to help... hmmmm... promote the drama.

I like to stir the pot of drama bisque. Everyone loves to partake, but so few love to put the time in to make it.

 

[LurkingPhoenix]

None take. Lol. It’s true in that you can guarantee when there’s drama, in there to help... hmmmm... promote the drama.

I like to stir the pot of drama bisque. Everyone loves to partake, but so few love to put the time in to make it.

It's like a sandwich, though. It always tastes better when someone else makes it for you.

 

[aussiegeekygal]

Oh, man.

This question is gold. It shouldn't be controversial but of course it is.

Bitches. Be. Crazy!

Sure, there are the delusional man children out there, but the epic meltdowns. Those are typically by women. I think there's definitely a bias in opinion based on everything that's rammed down our throats from the moment we are aware. Men are the hunters, designed to conquer and win trophies. Women are the gatherers, designed to nurture. I don't buy into that bullshit, but I recognize there's some pretty powerful societal bias pushing us into these stereotypes. They're harmful, but we buy into it.

I had a fantastic therapist when I was in my early twenties who helped me understand the male perspective in a way I hadn't considered at the time. Women have sex to connect. Men have sex to feel good. Now that's a blatant generalization but until that moment I hadn't associated sex with just feeling good and nothing else. It changed my whole world. He also mentioned that until a someone commits to monogamy (in conversation or otherwise) there are no rules that demand it. We often forget to have those conversations. Again, another generalization: women default to monogamy. We assume we're "enough" and a violation of that is betrayal. I don't believe it's an accident that "forsaking all others" is part of most marriage vows. Often, that's the first time people utter those words or anything like it.

I honestly believe that we all have a responsibility to advocate for what we want. A huge mistake we make is assuming others think like us. The more people I talk to and get to know the more I realize that almost nobody thinks like me. And that's awesome! It means I need to take more care to really make sure I'm aligned with others, especially if I have expectations they behave a certain way.

As for meltdowns, I agree with Sassy. Women do get more support. It doesn't mean they should bring their dirt into public, although I'm always thankful when they do. I enjoy the drama (yes, I'm awful) and the reminder to have deep, hard conversations when I'm putting something valuable on the line (such as my feelings).

Can I just say, though- having a harem come on and defend a guy's dick size earlier this week was by far the most absurd yet entertaining thing I've seen here I think ever? The lit goddesses blessed us with that entertainment. I won't soon forget that

 

[parker77]

Oh, man.

This question is gold. It shouldn't be controversial but of course it is.

Bitches. Be. Crazy!

Sure, there are the delusional man children out there, but the epic meltdowns. Those are typically by women. I think there's definitely a bias in opinion based on everything that's rammed down our throats from the moment we are aware. Men are the hunters, designed to conquer and win trophies. Women are the gatherers, designed to nurture. I don't buy into that bullshit, but I recognize there's some pretty powerful societal bias pushing us into these stereotypes. They're harmful, but we buy into it.

I had a fantastic therapist when I was in my early twenties who helped me understand the male perspective in a way I hadn't considered at the time. Women have sex to connect. Men have sex to feel good. Now that's a blatant generalization but until that moment I hadn't associated sex with just feeling good and nothing else. It changed my whole world. He also mentioned that until a someone commits to monogamy (in conversation or otherwise) there are no rules that demand it. We often forget to have those conversations. Again, another generalization: women default to monogamy. We assume we're "enough" and a violation of that is betrayal. I don't believe it's an accident that "forsaking all others" is part of most marriage vows. Often, that's the first time people utter those words or anything like it.

I honestly believe that we all have a responsibility to advocate for what we want. A huge mistake we make is assuming others think like us. The more people I talk to and get to know the more I realize that almost nobody thinks like me. And that's awesome! It means I need to take more care to really make sure I'm aligned with others, especially if I have expectations they behave a certain way.

As for meltdowns, I agree with Sassy. Women do get more support. It doesn't mean they should bring their dirt into public, although I'm always thankful when they do. I enjoy the drama (yes, I'm awful) and the reminder to have deep, hard conversations when I'm putting something valuable on the line (such as my feelings).

Can I just say, though- having a harem come on and defend a guy's dick size earlier this week was by far the most absurd yet entertaining thing I've seen here I think ever? The lit goddesses blessed us with that entertainment. I won't soon forget that

Yeah, we're heartless, hedonistic brutes lacking the need to make an emotional connection, out to sport fuck everything that moves so we feel good. I know, you said it was a, "blatant generalization," but I still disagree. I disagree equally to the idea that women default to monogamy. Maybe my sample size is too small. I'm not looking for a harem to come her and defend my sample size, but I wonder if others agree with your therapist or with me.

 

[aussiegeekygal]

Yeah, we're heartless, hedonistic brutes lacking the need to make an emotional connection, out to sport fuck everything that moves so we feel good. I know, you said it was a, "blatant generalization," but I still disagree. I disagree equally to the idea that women default to monogamy. Maybe my sample size is too small. I'm not looking for a harem to come her and defend my sample size, but I wonder if others agree with your therapist or with me.

I mentioned it not because I think it's completely true, more so to highlight the point that I had never considered another point of view.

We're all guilty of that.

I don't conform to this generalization one bit. I'm not a monogamist and with that I feel the societal pressure to not go against the current. It's society that perpetuates this. It's slowly changing which is awesome.

 

[parker77]

I mentioned it not because I think it's completely true, more so to highlight the point that I had never considered another point of view.

We're all guilty of that.

Aren't we.

Nonetheless, I'm really curious about the idea that women default to monogamy while men are simply pleasure seekers. I just wonder what others think.

 

[StacyLeigh]

Do you think the guys cheat more here? - No. Some women are just as thirsty as men and some men are really upstanding. There’s no huge difference between their behavior - just how publicly it’s displayed.

You think the girls have greater expectations? Do you think the guys care less? - Possibly. But disappointment and reaction are quite separate.

Do you think it’s just the nature of girls vs guys? - YES! By and large women have the urge/need to vent. When we are upset, we want to talk about it and often want our feelings vindicated. In a #classy scenario this happens in private with a trusted friend. But tacky bitches like to try to humiliate the person who wronged them and opportunistic bitches use it as a chance to turn sympathy into their next catch. Men don’t normally have the same need for vindication nor want to look like a whiny puss or dickhead by bitching about a woman publicly.

 

[LegendaryALT]

So this won’t be a really popular question. However, I’m going to ask it anyway. It was inspired by recent events on this thread, but it’s a topic that’s crossed my mind often.

I’ve noticed that when love goes bad on Lit and someone gets called out, it’s most often the girl calling out the guy. Or the passive aggressive comments in the “What Are You Thinking” thread are usually directed from girl to guy or from girl to the cheating whore who took her man. You rarely see a guy post those things. Why?

Do you think the guys cheat more here? Do you think the girls have greater expectations? Do you think the guys care less? Do you think it’s just the nature of girls vs guys?


Bad Blood by Ryan Adams

https://youtu.be/9V-8VP5dnrQ

I don't really mind the double standard, I hold no hate or jealousy for what women can do. There are actions, that are looked at as acceptable for men and not acceptable for females, as well. Despite what people think, all situations aren't equal and fair. I don't think men should be angry or jealous, of what any woman can get away with, real men wouldn't.



In a situation like that, some women will wonder what's she going crazy over and want to find out for themselves.

 

[aussiegeekygal]

Aren't we.

Nonetheless, I'm really curious about the idea that women default to monogamy while men are simply pleasure seekers. I just wonder what others think.

The collective societal contact is written that way. Men get way more leverage than women do.

 

[Lord Pmann]

Yeah, we're heartless, hedonistic brutes lacking the need to make an emotional connection, out to sport fuck everything that moves so we feel good. I know, you said it was a, "blatant generalization," but I still disagree. I disagree equally to the idea that women default to monogamy. Maybe my sample size is too small. I'm not looking for a harem to come her and defend my sample size, but I wonder if others agree with your therapist or with me.

She’s not quite wrong. Looking at the biological perspective, you’ll see her point can be easily proven. Men have little responsibility in terms of the long term effects of a sexual encounter.

For instance, if you go hook up with a woman (just biologically speaking) your risks are an STD. That’s it. You could literally leave and move across the world and she could never find you. This was easier to do in caveman days, but still. A woman’s consequences are much more grand in that she can be left with a consequence that shits itself and eventually walks upright and hopefully no longer shits itself. In society, the guy has to financially contribute to the care of the baby, but I’m ignoring that. Just biologically speaking, the woman has far more serious consequences than a man does.

As a result, women are (typically) more choosy about their partners than men are. Sure, there are those girls who aren’t as choosy. Look around. (I’m kidding, ladies) But choose a thousand women and a thousand men and you’ll find guys are much less discriminating than women, for the biological reasons above.

The number of partners men have is controlled by women. The number of partners women have is controlled by their own choices. I have said this before, but 50% of the population controls 100% of the pussy.

 

[Lord Pmann]

I agree with AGG. BITCHES. BE. CRAZY.

Girls are way cattier than guys. They also like sympathy more than guys. And they are more empathetic beings, in general. Plus, at Lit, those girls have likely fucked around with that guy and they’ll be happy to join in the fight. Girls develop more girl on girl friendships here. I don’t have any guy friends here. There are a few guys who I’ve exchanged a PM or two with a a few guys regarding a post here or there, but I don’t have friendships. So no guys are going to come to my defense if someone says I’m a shithead. Plus, sometimes I’m a shithead.

 

[Suz_anne]

Can I just say, though- having a harem come on and defend a guy's dick size earlier this week was by far the most absurd yet entertaining thing I've seen here I think ever? The lit goddesses blessed us with that entertainment. I won't soon forget that

It was very slinger-esque.

 

[Dribble]

I am not going to disagree w anything I have read...but just to take the ladle from pmann and stir the pot...

It is a well accepted fact, women mature emotionally faster than males. I am looking specifically at those high school days. Hormones running crazy days. Does this really ever change? I look at it from a totally selfish point of view. Is it not healthier in the long run to vent it out? And not stuff it? Sure, the wake of devastation is left behind...but that does not concern the individual feeling pain...why should it? How do people move past...really move past...not lip service words...without having that explosive vent? Those individuals that I have met...and cause I am older that is a few...that say they have moved past many things, I do not see through their actions.

 

[Dribble]

I remember my first wife screaming at me...I dont want you to fix it...I just want to vent. She then slammed the door in my face and cried. She was right.

 

[SassySheDevil]

I agree with AGG. BITCHES. BE. CRAZY.

Girls are way cattier than guys. They also like sympathy more than guys. And they are more empathetic beings, in general. Plus, at Lit, those girls have likely fucked around with that guy and they’ll be happy to join in the fight. Girls develop more girl on girl friendships here. I don’t have any guy friends here. There are a few guys who I’ve exchanged a PM or two with a a few guys regarding a post here or there, but I don’t have friendships. So no guys are going to come to my defense if someone says I’m a shithead. Plus, sometimes I’m a shithead.

The sad part about this. I've learned the hard way. When any relationship ends. Including friendship. When you "vent" to your friends (gfs in this case) They only hear your pain filled side. So when they attack on your behalf, shit gets really messed up later if you try and become friends again.

Had this happen. Also been a part of it. Learned the hard way. I am more careful now talking about any pain I feel, because I don't want it to bite me in the ass later. There are always 2 sides of pain.

 

[Dribble]

It was very slinger-esque.

Lol...which one was the "new" woman? Ok....I am gone. Have fun.

 

[aussiegeekygal]

Do you think the guys cheat more here? - No. Some women are just as thirsty as men and some men are really upstanding. There’s no huge difference between their behavior - just how publicly it’s displayed.

You think the girls have greater expectations? Do you think the guys care less? - Possibly. But disappointment and reaction are quite separate.

Yeah, and a lot of the rules that apply in the real world don't necessarily translate across to lit.

There's also a smaller cross section of women represented here than out in the real world. It takes a certain kind of balls for a woman to sign up to post on lit. We're already on the fringe of mainstream sexual norms.

 

[Lord Pmann]

I remember my first wife screaming at me...I dont want you to fix it...I just want to vent. She then slammed the door in my face and cried. She was right.

https://youtu.be/-4EDhdAHrOg

This video is brilliant. I’m a fixer myself and sometimes just listening is the right approach. I don’t understand the need to want to just be heard and not fix, but it’s a thing.

I do want to make clear, I wasn’t making any judgment on the two people whose scenario inspired this question.

 

[Lord Pmann]

It was very slinger-esque.

If you say his name 3 times, a pic of his throbbing manhood finds its way to your inbox.

 

[Suz_anne]

If you say his name 3 times, a pic of his throbbing manhood finds its way to your inbox.

That sounds like the voice of experience, fella.

 

[Lord Pmann]

That sounds like the voice of experience, fella.

I’ve made fun of him a LOT.

 

[Dribble]

https://youtu.be/-4EDhdAHrOg

This video is brilliant. I’m a fixer myself and sometimes just listening is the right approach. I don’t understand the need to want to just be heard and not fix, but it’s a thing.

I do want to make clear, I wasn’t making any judgment on the two people whose scenario inspired this question.

I
Should
Not
Have
Laughed.

 

[Lord Pmann]

I
Should
Not
Have
Laughed.

I once used that video during a corporate presentation.

 

[hotwords229_A]

So this won’t be a really popular question. However, I’m going to ask it anyway. It was inspired by recent events on this thread, but it’s a topic that’s crossed my mind often.

I’ve noticed that when love goes bad on Lit and someone gets called out, it’s most often the girl calling out the guy. Or the passive aggressive comments in the “What Are You Thinking” thread are usually directed from girl to guy or from girl to the cheating whore who took her man. You rarely see a guy post those things. Why?

Do you think the guys cheat more here? Do you think the girls have greater expectations? Do you think the guys care less? Do you think it’s just the nature of girls vs guys?


Bad Blood by Ryan Adams

https://youtu.be/9V-8VP5dnrQ

Dear Lister Who Asks Too Many Questions,

I find your thread to be offensive and obnoxious. You may not believe in Science, Pmann, but I do and it is a proven fact that Men and Women are exactly the same in every single way. We are all non-binary, existential beings of light and energy who can achieve a green new Earth by running on our good vibes as long as we don’t use incendiary language which will be established by a constantly changing set of values as determined by people with higher virtues than people like you.

Your toxic masculinity is on full display with your suggestion that nature has any involvement with the behaviors of Men and Women. You may think that just because you have a penis that you are somehow different, perhaps even less emotional than people who don’t have a penis. Well, you know who else had a penis? Hitler. Just saying.

In summary, I am calling for a boycott of this thread until you finally realize that your point of view and this kind of hate speech has no place in our coexistence.

Sincerely,

At Least I’m Not a Whore Like You