Limit # of themed contest entries?

[Darkniciad]

Just for the hell of it, let's have a poll.

This is simply my idea, and has no backing from Literotica. It's completely unofficial.

Let us assume, for the sake of argument, that all alts can be detected by Literotica.

Would you be in favor of limiting the number of themed contest entries an author can enter in a single contest?

In my opinion, it's beginning to get out of hand. We're in much the same position we were with multi-chapter stories filling up the contest list, which eventually resulted in the no-chapter rule.

If I was in charge, I wouldn't limit it to one entry, but I would set something such as five or less. The number that keeps popping in my head is three, but I'm biased there, as I have three pen names

Feel free to discuss, and vote if you're of a mind. Who knows. If there's enough activity, maybe it should be pointed out to Laurel for review.

 

[SuperHeroRalph]

Since this thread is about me and only me, perhaps I should give my opinion.

Well, Literotica instituted the no chapter rule, unofficially called the BOSTONFICTIONWRITER rule because I wrote too many chapter stories.

They said that a story had to completely stand alone. Henceforth, I've abided by that stupid rule and have written stories that are stand alone.

Now, we want a limit on contest stories submitted.

Why not just call this thread the rule to limit AndTheEnd, BOSTONFICTIONWRITER, CarBuffStuff, PositiveThinker, WmForrester, and SuperHeroRalph from submitting more than one contest story on a story fucking board.

Oh, yeah, that makes sense. Let's limit a writer who has the talent, the gift, the imagination, and the creativity to write stories at will.

Yeah, let's deny Freddie from writing any more stories.

What the fuck? I don't have a fucking chance of winning a contest here anyway. What fucking difference does it make if I, me, enter one fucking contest story or a hundred fucking contest stories.

I have a suggestion. How about this one Dark? No one fucking writer can win more than one fucking contest in a year. How about that fucking rule?

Let's see, how many contests have you won?

Wait, let's go further. No fucking writer can win more than one contest in a lifetime.

Do you like that rule, Dark? How many blue W's do you have on your page?

What's the percentage of blue W's to the number of stories have you written?

Now, let's look at my fucking stories. I've written more than one thousand stories here. Hold on a second, while I tally all the blue W's on all of my scorecards.

Let's see. AndTheEnd...zero. BOSTONFICTIONWRITER...zero. CarBuffStuff...zero. PositiveThinker...zero. WmForrester...zero. SuperHeroRalph...zero.

Hold on a second, while I tabulate my percentage of blue W's against the number of stories that I've submitted.

Hmm, that's weird. My percentage is zero.

So, let me get this straight. If I never won a fucking contest here, why the fuck are you so afraid of me?

How is the number of stories that I submit getting out of hand?

Is it because you're fucking jealous because you can't write anything other than the same fucking copy and paste story and I can write any fucking story in every fucking category at will? Is that it?

I guess I must be a fucking asshole, huh? Is that it? I'm a fucking asshole to write so many fucking stories on a fucking story fucking board. Well excuse fucking me for being a fucking writer.

I know, what about this? What if I only wrote stories while typing one handed. Would that be fairer, even though I have never won a contest here and will never win a contest here?

Let me tell you something about these writing contests. Come closer to the screen so that everyone doesn't see.

These contests are all fake. Phony. The same people win over and over and over again and, guess what Dark. You're one of them.

Many of my stories are better than those stories that have won contest here, yet, I'm not allowed to win. It doesn't matter. The proof of my stories are on the 30 day most read list, the 12 month most read list, and the all-time most read list.

Tell me, Dark, how many of your contest winners appear on any of those lists. I couldn't find a single one. That's weird, huh?

I mean, if your stories were so fucking good to win a fucking contest, how come no one reads them?

Asshole.

Oh, sorry, have a pleasant fourth of July.

Freddie aka AndTheEnd, BOSTONFICTIONWRITER, CarBuffStuff, PositiveThinker, WmForrester, and SuperHeroRalph

 

[Darkniciad]

tl;dr

Didn't really need to. Could probably piece it together from the standard rant.

Regardless, my reason for believing it's out of hand is the same reason I never liked chapter stories in the contests ( which predates you ever posting here, unless it was under an alt previous to BFW )

The contest list just gets overwhelmed. It annoys me.

Never really said anything, or PMd Laurel about it, or anything else. The rules were the rules, and they allowed it. I certainly wasn't unhappy when it was changed, though.

That's it for me on this one. Annoyance. I don't have any better reason, or claim to. That's why I haven't said anything. It's not a good reason. I'm just seeing if anybody actually has one, or if there's any support for limiting the number of entries at all.

and to try to draw nutjob scouries out into ranting here

 

[Zeb_Carter]

I would say a single author can enter as many stories as they want, but only as that author...no alts. Why use alts anyway to post stories...can't take the heat in LW...oh well.

 

[kromen]

I do think that quality over quantity would make for a better contest.

 

[michchick98]

So how is that whole "It's not about winning a contest with me" thing going for you?

From the Nude Day contest thread:

It's not about winning a contest with me. It never was. It's more about writing a better story and becoming a better writer.

What the fuck? I don't have a fucking chance of winning a contest here anyway. What fucking difference does it make if I, me, enter one fucking contest story or a hundred fucking contest stories.

I have a suggestion. How about this one Dark? No one fucking writer can win more than one fucking contest in a year. How about that fucking rule?

Let's see, how many contests have you won?

Wait, let's go further. No fucking writer can win more than one contest in a lifetime.

Do you like that rule, Dark? How many blue W's do you have on your page?

What's the percentage of blue W's to the number of stories have you written?

Now, let's look at my fucking stories. I've written more than one thousand stories here. Hold on a second, while I tally all the blue W's on all of my scorecards.

Let's see. AndTheEnd...zero. BOSTONFICTIONWRITER...zero. CarBuffStuff...zero. PositiveThinker...zero. WmForrester...zero. SuperHeroRalph...zero.

Hold on a second, while I tabulate my percentage of blue W's against the number of stories that I've submitted.

Hmm, that's weird. My percentage is zero.

So, let me get this straight. If I never won a fucking contest here, why the fuck are you so afraid of me?

Guess it's not going so well, huh?

 

[oggbashan]

In past contests I have submitted more than one entry. I have also submitted as oggbashan and as jeanne_d_artois.

I agree with the recent rule change that banned chapters as entries because I think that the contest entry should be a stand-alone story. As I see it, that doesn't exclude using characters one has used before.

How many entries are there? If the contest attracted thousands of entries, then perhaps there might be a case for reducing the number submitted by a single person, but the numbers are nowhere near that.

 

[SuperHeroRalph]

I responded to this thread because, yet, again, I'm not allowed to mind my own business and write my stories. I responded to this thread because I was attacked and to defend myself.

Actually, Michchick, the whole thing about not caring about winning a contest is going better for me. Why? I'm glad you asked.

I have multiple stories on every most read list, the 30 day, the 12 month, and the all-time.

Winning a contest, earning Red H's, Blue W's, or Green E's is not as important to me as writing a good story and becoming a better writer, which is why my stories routinely appear on the most read lists.

Let me ask you think, Michchick, how come the contest winning stories seldom if ever appear on the most read lists? If winning contests stories are good enough to win a contest, how come they aren't good enough to read? I don't get that.

 

[SuperHeroRalph]

My story, Siblings Get Naked for Nude Day, written under SuperHeroRalph, is the most read fucking new story in 30 days, Dark. Let me ask you this, Dark. Where are all your blue W contest stories on the most read list?

My story Spending My Summer Stripping My Mom, written under AndTheEnd, is the 7th most read new story in the past 12 months. Let me ask you this, Dark. Where are all your blue W contest stories on the most read list?

My story I Love You Mommy, written under WmForrester was not only the most read new story in all of 2010 but is now the 163rd most read story of all-time and still climbing. Let me ask you this, Dark. Whwere are all your blue W contest stories on the most read list?

So, what does that tell you that you have a page full of blue W's and routinely have stories hitting all the three most read lists?

It tells me that these contests are fake and phony. It tells me that you're a cheating fraud. It tells me that Red H's, story scores, and Blue W's are manipulated.

I shall await your response.

 

[SuperHeroRalph]

I'd like to thank Dark for giving me this forum thread to voice my outrage.

I charge that there are those among us who work for Literotica. I charge that Literotica does not want to pay money to contest winnners.

I charge that there are plants in place, those who use multiple identities, secret and out in the open, to win contests, so that the rest of us win nothing.

It's not bad enough that we write here for free but also we must be abused.

Let me ask you this Dark, how did you and Scouries know about my story last night, the one that was rejected by Laurel this morning, before it even posted.

You two morons shot yourselves in the foot didn't you?

Who else is out there among us that are not mere writers but who are plants for Literotica to steal money from those who really should be winning writing contests here?

 

[SuperHeroRalph]

Apparently, Dark and Scouries and others here knew last night about the story that I wrote and submitted on Sunday, before it even posted. How is that possible, unless they work for Literotica?

When Laurel rejected my story, the first story I've had rejected here in 4 years, she told me that the story was better for the forum board. Really? Thank you Laurel for suggesting that.

Here without further nonsense is my story that should have been posted under the guidelines of the free speech that Laurel so espouses.

This is a Nude Day contest story. Please vote.

Nude Day Story, I'm An Asshole

It took Nude Day for me to see who I truly am. I'm an asshole.

Nude Day is when I had my epiphany. It took Nude Day for me to see who I truly am. Standing naked on Nude Day and looking at myself in the mirror without the rose colored glasses coloring and skewing my perception of myself, for the first time in my life, I see my real self and I'm not happy with what I see. I'm saddened to write that I'm an asshole. I am. I truly am. I'm a asshole.

I've met a lot of assholes in my life and I never thought I'd be one, an asshole, but I am. Most of the people I had to work for, bosses, were assholes, real assholes. Going way back, before I even started working, a lot of my professors and teachers were assholes, too. I could tell an asshole, as soon as they opened their mouths that they were assholes or were going to be assholes. Even before that, I had friends, acquaintances, and even family members who were real assholes. Now, including myself, I'm surrounded by assholes.

Before we continue, allow me to describe my definition of an asshole. An asshole to me is someone with two assholes. One hole in the ass, of course, for shitting excrement and a second hole in their mouth for talking shit. That's my definition of an asshole, a person shitting shit and talking shit, sometimes at the same time. Eww, gross. Yeah, that's me, alright. Unfortunately, I fit my own definition of an asshole.

All politicians are assholes. Most lawyers are assholes, especially divorce lawyers. Ex anything, ex-boyfriend, ex-girlfriend, ex-wife, ex-husband, or ex-significant other is always an asshole.

To be honest, I never thought of myself as being an asshole, but I am. Why, as a writer of erotic literature and dirty stories, a writer who writes for Literotica, am I such an asshole? There are a lot of reasons how I could be an asshole, but the main reason is because I write too many contest stories. As the most prolific author on Literotica, bar none, writing too many contest stories makes me an asshole.

Now that I think about it, I've been an asshole since 2007, when I joined Literotica as BOSTONFICTIONWRITER and wrote nearly 200 stories for the Survivor contest. Just the fact that I made a mistake and wrote my name capital letters made me an asshole, before I even wrote my first story. The next year, 2008, as BOSTONFICTIONWRITER, I wrote more than 300 stories for the Survivor contest.

What an asshole I am for writing so many stories on a story board, huh? How dare I write so many stories on a story board? What the Hell is wrong with me for writing so many stories on a story board? What an asshole I am for writing all those stories.

Truth be told, I only write contest stories. Literotica has twelve monthly contests and six themed contest stories each year, Valentine's Day, Earth Day, Nude Day, Summer Lovin', Halloween, and Winter. In addition to those 18 contests, they have their yearlong contest, the Survivor contest, the writer who writes the most stories in the most categories wins. I've competed in the Survivor contest every year, since I joined, which makes me a real asshole by dumping all those Survivor stories on the board.

As BOSTONFICTIONWRITER, I won 2nd place in the Survivor contest in 2007 and 2008. I finished in 6th place in the Survivor contest as PositiveThinker in 2009, and in 2010, I won 2nd place again in the Survivor contest as AndTheEnd. I'm leading the 2011 Survivor contest, as SuperHeroRalph. Since the most stories written in the most categories wins, the Survivor contest is the only contest held by Literotica that I have any chance of winning, as it is independent of scores and votes.

As are the themed contests, the monthly contest winners are those with the highest scores. Even though many of my stories are wicked good, I don't score very high. Why? Well, no doubt, because I'm an asshole.

Recently, the last couple years, I've only been writing stories in the themed writing contests. When other writers write one or two submissions, I write a dozen to two dozen stories each contest. What an asshole? I can't help myself. Writing is my passion. I love writing stories. Oh, yeah, without doubt, I am an asshole. I dunno, but if there's a delineation between a good asshole and a bad asshole, just to save face, I'd like to think of myself as a good asshole.

Yet, with all the contest stories that I've written, except for coming in 2nd place three times in the Survivor contest, I'm saddened to write that I've never won a contest, haven't even so much as finished in third place. One would think with all the hundreds of contest stories that I write and have written, that one story would have been a homerun with the readers. Why is it that I've never won a contest here? Is it solely because I'm an asshole?

I've been told by hundreds of readers that I'm a good writer, one of the best writers on the site. I've been told by hundreds of readers that they loved my stories so much that they favored them and favored me as a writer. Still, I don't win any contests. I don't even come close to winning a contest. Matter of fact, some of the poorest writers on the site writing the worst stories on the site score higher than me. Why is that? I don't get it. Yet, judging which story is better over another story is as arbitrary as thinking which person is more of an asshole than another. The fact remains is that I'm still an asshole.

So far, in just 2011, with still three contests to go, the Summer Lovin, Halloween, and Winter contests, I've written 68 contest stories in the Valentine's Day, Earth Day, and Nude Day contests, as SuperHeroRalph. What an asshole? With more than 50,000 writers on the site, no other writer writes as many contest stories as I do.

In 2010, I wrote 89 contest stories under AndTheEnd. Then, between PositiveThinker in 2009 and BOSTONFICTIONWRITER in 2007 and 2008, I dare say, I've, no doubt, written more than 300 contest stories. I lost count. I'm embarrassed to admit that with all my alternate identities, AndTheEnd, BOSTONFICTIONWRITER, CarBuffStuff, PositiveThinker, WmForrester, and now SuperHeroRalph, that I've written nearly (gulp) 500 themed contest stories and nearly 1,000 monthly contest stories. Oh, my God! I'm such an asshole.

Why do I write so many stories, specifically contest stories? The only reason that I could think of is that I'm an asshole. I never thought that I was an asshole, I thought I was just another passionate writer, but I must be an asshole, not only to write so many contest stories but also not to win a writing contest with any of my stories.

Even though my passion is writing and, even though so many readers continue to tell me how good I am and how good my stories are, I'm still an asshole. To somehow make myself feel better about not winning a writing contest at Literotica is for me to think that Literotica doesn't allow an asshole to win a contest. Somehow that makes me feel better being an asshole, I think, not really, well, not at all. Yet, it's always better to not only blame someone else for being an asshole but also to call someone else an asshole, don't you think?

To be honest and in my defense, my justification for not winning a themed contest, even though I write dozens and dozens of contest stories a year, is because the theme and monthly contests that Literotica hosts has nothing to do with the best story wins and has nothing to do with the best writers winning. Ah, now there's a thought that makes me feel better. Maybe I'm not an asshole after all. Based on writing here since 2007 and 2008, as BOSTONFICTIONWRITER, as CarBuffStuff, PositiveThinker, and WmForrester in 2009, as AndTheEnd in 2010, and as SuperHeroRalph in 2011, I've discovered that it's not the best story or the most talented writer that wins a contest here, it's the most popular writer. Period.

An aside note for those who wonder why I change my name every year, there's two reasons. If I wrote under one name, my Literotica page would be as cumbersome to navigate as my BOSTONFICTIONWRITER page is now with 663 submissions. Secondly, I've had mentally disturbed bashers who e-mail me mean things, even death threats, just for writing a story that they didn't like. I even had one person find my Facebook page and post personal information about me on the site. Unfortunately, I had to cancel my Facebook page. Fortunately, Literotica is good about that and removed the posts.

Wow! Praise the Lord. Now that's a revelation and, perhaps, my salvation that it's not the best story that wins the contest, but the most popular writer. Further, being that I write so many frigging contest stories, I've noticed something about my scores that many of the other writers who only write one or two contest stories in a contest may not notice. Come closer to the screen so that everyone doesn't see what I'm about to write. Ready?

After only a few days, even though I received hundreds of votes for stories during the contest and after my initial scores, with some stories receiving as many as 1,200 votes, my scores remain the same. Yep, it's true. My scores don't change very much. They all pretty much remain the same. Further, many of my stories have the same exact scores with most of my stories having scores within one or two hundreds of a point from one another. Isn't that weird? Scientifically, after having written so very many stories, I don't think it's a coincidence that my scores don't change very much and that I have so many scores that are the same. I think it may be something else.

I've deduced that for every 5 vote I receive, I receive a 3 vote from those who want to make sure that I don't win a contest here. All my scores, no matter if it's for my worst stories or my best stories, hang around the 4.0 mark. Truly, the scoring at Literotica makes no sense to me and is, by no means, a quantifier that the story a reader reads is good or bad.

Being the accountant and numbers person that I am, mathematically and logically, I could understand the phenomena of scores not changing and scores that are the same and scores that remain the same, even after receiving hundreds of votes, after the original, first score. I could even understand that happening to one or two of my stories, even a dozen of my stories, since I write so many contest stories, but how does that happen to nearly every contest story that I write in every contest? If receiving the exact same scores and scores that don't change wasn't so very strange, I'd be upset, but I'm not upset. I'm beginning to think that contest scores are manipulated by someone else, perhaps by a computer program. For sure, someone doesn't want me to win a contest. Weird, isn't it?

Now, I don't have proof that something underhanded is happening at Literotica, when it comes to contest scores and determining the winner of a contest. Pointing no fingers and not crying foul, I'm just reporting my personal and unproven observation with my contest story scores. My thinking is that, perhaps, my scores are being limited to not go any higher than a certain level, mainly no higher than a 4.43, well, because I'm an asshole.

There are always exceptions to the rule and I do have a few stories, very few, in comparison to all the stories that I write and to all the stories that others have written, that have scores that are higher than 4.5, along with the accompanying red H, but when I read other writers' stories, writers that have pages filled with red H's, to be honest, their stories aren't as good as my stories. Definitely, most of their stories aren't good enough to earn a red H for every story they write. Maybe they just have a lot of friends and family who vote for them. Maybe they work somewhere that they have access to lots of computers with different IP addresses and they can vote and vote and vote for their stories over and again. Now, that may explain why I never won a contest and that may or may not explain why I'm an asshole or not an asshole. I dunno, I'm not computer savvy enough to delve into that part of Literotica's scoring method.

Now, in my defense, I would have had a lot more red H's, but every time I receive a red H, bashers come along and erase my red H's by giving me low scores, without so much as reading my stories. That sucks, so when I do receive a red H, I've been turning off the voting. Definitely, for sure, they must think that I'm an asshole, too, and, as an asshole, I shouldn't have any red H's for them to erase my red H's.

Yet, to be honest, I've read some of the winning contest stories and, as biased as I may be, most of my stories are better. Most of my stories deserved at least a 3rd place prize, if not a 2nd place prize, or even a 1st place win in whichever contest they were entered. Even though my stories are widely read and excitedly enjoyed, I still cannot manage to win a contest. Go figure. Ergo, I must be an asshole.

In 2007, as BOSTONFICTIONWRITER, I wrote a story Sex with my Mother-in-law. Within the first month, it had received more than 800,000 views, an unprecedented number of views in the history of Literotica, even for an incest story, along with more than 800 votes. The following month, I wrote Sex with my Sister-in-law Samantha and, after only a few weeks, that received more than 650,000 views and more than 600 votes. Yet, neither of those stories scored high enough to win or place in the themed contest that they were entered. Then, I wrote Never Too Old for Love So Young in the Mature category and that story went through the roof. The readers loved that story so much that a publisher stopped me from finishing the last view chapters, so that he could publish it as an E-book.

Unfortunately, I pulled those stories to post them as E-books and had I not pulled them, 5 years later, no doubt, they would have earned a place in the top ten, all-time, most read stories. Sadly, I ended up pulling the E-book from the publisher because he couldn't accurately account for the sales commissions that I should be receiving. For him to think that he could cheat me out of sales, he must have thought that I was an asshole, too.

My story, I Love You Mommy, that I wrote under WmForrester, was the most read "new" story for all of 2010. Presently, that story is the 163rd all-time, most read story on the site and still climbing on the all-time, most read story list with nearly 800,000 reads and more than 1,200 votes. Not bad considering that there are more than 50,000 writers who write here and that there are more than 3 million stories posted on the site. Yet, still, that story didn't win the themed contest or even place in the themed contest in which it was entered. What does that tell you about contest winners and what does that tell you about me? I know, it tells you that I'm still an asshole.

My story, Spending My Summer Stripping My Mom Naked, that I wrote under AndTheEnd, with nearly 250,000 reads and nearly 350 votes, is the 6th most read story on the 12 month list. Unfortunately, that story didn't win or even place in the themed contest that it was entered either. I must be an asshole for that story not to have won something.

My story, Siblings Get Naked for Nude Day, that I wrote under SuperHeroRalph with nearly 100,000 reads and more than 1,100 votes, is the most read story in 30 days. Unfortunately, that story has a snowball's chance in Hell of winning or even placing in the current Nude Day contest. Why? Because I'm an asshole. I'm an asshole. I'm an asshole. I'm an asshole. Gawd, I'm such an asshole.

Even though I'm one of the few writers who writes in every category, after having written more than 1,000 stories, 100 poems, and more than 6 million words that have amassed more than 60 million hits or reads, under the names of AndTheEnd, BOSTONFICTIONWRITER, CarBuffStuff, PositiveThinker, WmForrester, and now SuperHeroRalph, you'd think that I could win one lousy contest at Literotica, but I can't. Why? You know it and I know it. I'm an asshole.

Maybe, one day, Literotica will have a contest where the best story wins. Maybe, one day, Literotica will have a contest where it doesn't matter who writes the story. Maybe, one day, even an asshole like me can win a contest here at Literotica.

Yet, now that I have your attention, before I end this essay, please allow me address the voting and comment situation for a minute. We writers all write here for free. Other than hoping to win a few dollars by winning a contest, we're not paid for our hard work and we're not compensated for our time. We write because we must. We write because we love to write. We write for your votes and for your feedback. Yet, what is more disturbing to me than not winning a contest here is the lack of appreciation that so many readers show for the writers who write stories for you, dear reader.

For every 1,000 reads, we're lucky to receive one vote and for every 10,000 reads, we're lucky to receive 1 comment and most of the comments we receive are not constructive comments but bashing comments. If you enjoyed the story you read, please support your favorite writer and favorite story by voting and/or commenting for the story. Please support your favorite writer and favorite story by adding that writer and/or story to your favorite list.

Trust me, there's no electronic hand that will swoop down from a satellite in the sky to tell your wife, husband, significant other, or mother that you've been reading porn, I mean, dirty stories, sorry, I meant to write, erotic literature. Your viewing pleasure is safe from Big Brother monitoring you here. We writers appreciate every vote of support and every comment you make to our stories. You reading our stories means so very much to all of us and even more so when you vote and comment.

Please don't forget to vote, make a comment, and/or add me and this story to your favorite lists. Thank you for reading and voting for my story.

 

[Weird Harold]

I dont know, nor do I care how many of the psuedonyms in the contest are really the same person, but I find that having 38 of 55 stories in the contest (so far) by psuedonyms with multiple entries is a bit excessive.

I wouldnt have any problem with a one entry per psuedonym rule. I also wouldnt have a problem with themed contests being blind entries with no author names attached until after the contest is over.

 

[SuperHeroRalph]

I dont know, nor do I care how many of the psuedonyms in the contest are really the same person, but I find that having 38 of 55 stories in the contest (so far) by psuedonyms with multiple entries is a bit excessive.

I wouldnt have any problem with a one entry per psuedonym rule. I also wouldnt have a problem with themed contests being blind entries with no author names attached until after the contest is over.

All of my contest entries are written by and submitted under one name, SuperHeroRalph.

Every word that I have written in 2011 was written under one name SuperHeroRalph.

Every word written and contest story submitted last year was under AndTheEnd.

Why do I change names? Because of bashers and stalkers. I'm not allowed to mind my own business and just write stories on a story site. Always I must be attacked, as was the intent of this thread.

This is a story board. To limit anything, whether it's the number of stories written or what the story is about, so long as it's not about children or something disturbing to all of us, such as death, mutilation, and rape, should be accepted.

Let me ask you this, while I have your attention. How can Scouries and Dark know about the story that was posting today, before it even posted?

How is that possible, that is, unless they work for Literotica and are Literotica plants?

How many others are Literotica plants? What does a writer have to do to have a fair and honest contest, where everyone can win and not have the same people win with average stories that no one wants to read.

As far as I'm concerned, a winning contest story should make the top 30 day most read list, the top 12 month most read list, and the top all-time most read list.

Yet, I've searched all three lists and I haven't found any contest winning stories. Don't you think that's odd?

Yet, here I am, the writer of 1,000 stories, a writer who has never won a contest here, and I have multiple storis on the 30 day most read list, the 12 month most read list, and the all-time most read list.

Now, not having won a contest, I thought I was a lousy writer, that is, until I started seeing all my contest losing stories popping up on the most read lists. Weird, huh, Weird Harold?

 

[michchick98]

I responded to this thread because, yet, again, I'm not allowed to mind my own business and write my stories. I responded to this thread because I was attacked and to defend myself.

Actually, Michchick, the whole thing about not caring about winning a contest is going better for me. Why? I'm glad you asked.

I have multiple stories on every most read list, the 30 day, the 12 month, and the all-time.

Winning a contest, earning Red H's, Blue W's, or Green E's is not as important to me as writing a good story and becoming a better writer, which is why my stories routinely appear on the most read lists.

Let me ask you think, Michchick, how come the contest winning stories seldom if ever appear on the most read lists? If winning contests stories are good enough to win a contest, how come they aren't good enough to read? I don't get that.

My story, Siblings Get Naked for Nude Day, written under SuperHeroRalph, is the most read fucking new story in 30 days, Dark. Let me ask you this, Dark. Where are all your blue W contest stories on the most read list?

My story Spending My Summer Stripping My Mom, written under AndTheEnd, is the 7th most read new story in the past 12 months. Let me ask you this, Dark. Where are all your blue W contest stories on the most read list?

My story I Love You Mommy, written under WmForrester was not only the most read new story in all of 2010 but is now the 163rd most read story of all-time and still climbing. Let me ask you this, Dark. Whwere are all your blue W contest stories on the most read list?

So, what does that tell you that you have a page full of blue W's and routinely have stories hitting all the three most read lists?

It tells me that these contests are fake and phony. It tells me that you're a cheating fraud. It tells me that Red H's, story scores, and Blue W's are manipulated.

I shall await your response.

Yep, that whole "I don't write to win contests" mantra is REALLY working so well for you, Freddie.

 

[SuperHeroRalph]

The only time you post, Michchick is to start trouble.

Never is when you have anything good to write.

You know it and I know that the contests here are not fair. It's the same people winning contests, whether they are plants for Literotica or not, who cares.

My post was not about winning a contest but more about being able to submit as many contest stories as I want.

Yet, when someone attacks me, when someone posts a thread that is aimed at me, I'm going to fight back. So either take a side or get the fuck out of my way.

 

[Darkniciad]

What have we learned so far?

(1) There's still nobody with any good reason -- beyond annoyance -- for limiting the number of contest entries.

(2) BFWs attempt to soften his image is a sham

 

[SuperHeroRalph]

Soften my image?

You attacked me personally by posting this thread.

You, sir, are a fraud and a fake. We just have to read one of your contest winning stories, of which you have so many, along with the others in your group, to know that the contests here are fake.

At first I figured you were a wicked good writer, that is, until I read your contest winning stories. You suck as a writer, Dark, yet, you continue to win contests.

Then, I figured you worked in a large office building and had access to lots of computers with different IP addresses that allowed you to vote for yourself numerous times. Then, I figured, just your friends and family were voting for your stories. Now, I figure that you're a plant for Literotica, so that they don't have to pay out money to contest winners.

Tell me, which one of those are true?

You attack me and when I defend myself, you point the finger of blame at me that I'm causing trouble. I'm not. I just write stories. I mind my own business. I don't bother anyone. Yet, even though I'm not allowed to win a phony contest here, I'm not allowed to write my stories in peace.

Tell me, Dark, how is it that you and Scouries knew the story that I had written, before it even posted. You fucked up, huh? You were a bit quick on the trigger to post this thread. You should have waited to post this. You probably had no idea that I'd post my story here, huh?

Now, you have some explaining to do, Dark. Now, we know how you're able to make all those statistical voting charts. You're privvy to the behind the scenes information at Literotica. Now, we know how you know so much about the behind the scenes computer programs at Literotica. It's because you work for Literotica, huh?

How many more moles are there like you, Dark. Are there a bunch or is it just one or two with dozens of identities.

I used to write for VoyeurWeb's My Story board and people like you, with hundreds of identities, was the reason why Igor closed the board. Just as people like you ruined that writing site for writers, you're ruining this site by continuing to have phony writing contests.

Just once, I'd love to see a fair contest without the same people winning over again.

Truth be told, Dark, you're not such a great writer to have earned all those Red H's and all those Blue W's on a page. I've read your stories and they aren't very good.

If they were good stories, well written stories, you'd think they'd appear on the most read lists, but none of them do. Why is that, Dark? Why do my stories always appear on the most read lists, even though I've never won a contest here?

There are a lot of bright people here and it's about time we all put two and two togehter. I've read some wonderful stories by some great writers who should have won a contest, but didn't. Other writers, who know that these contests are fixed, don't even bother entering a story because they likes of you or someone like you, a Literotica plant, will win the contest.

That sucks for all of us. It must piss you off that I'm a better and more prolific writer than you, huh? It must piss you off that I saw, early on, through the scam, huh?

Tell me, Dark, what's next? Is a surprise writer going to post in September and win the Survivor contest from me, just as they did in 2007, even though I'm leading by a large margin.

Or are a group of writers going to write 800 word stories to make sure that I don't win the Survivor contest, as was done in 2008 and 2009?

Is that all you have? C'mon, what else do you have, other than your charge that I'm trying to soften my image.

What image? I'm a writer. I write stories. Who are you?

You're a fraud, a fake, a phony, and a cheater.

Wait allow me to retort.

"GO FUCK YOURSELF!"

Ah, there, I feel better.

Enjoy your 4th of July holiday.

 

[michchick98]

The only time you post, Michchick is to start trouble.

Never is when you have anything good to write.

You know it and I know that the contests here are not fair. It's the same people winning contests, whether they are plants for Literotica or not, who cares.

My post was not about winning a contest but more about being able to submit as many contest stories as I want.

Yet, when someone attacks me, when someone posts a thread that is aimed at me, I'm going to fight back. So either take a side or get the fuck out of my way.

Someone's got their knickers in a twist. And no, I don't start trouble every time I post. Just with certain people.

As far as the contests being unfair, I learned that a long time ago, which is one of the reasons I rarely enter them any more. I don't foam and froth at the mouth or write post after post after post after post after post after post after post after post after post (you get the idea) of how unfairly the contests are or how unfairly I'm treated.

But still, if it's not about winning contests for you, why bring it up time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time (you get the idea) again? This thread isn't about winning contests, but rather the number of entries in said contests. You're the one who brought up the topic of winning contests and the fairness of that, or lack of fairness.

Cuss at me and insult me all you want, Freddie, it doesn't change the fact that you haven't stopped bitching about not winning contests since 2008. If winning them isn't important to you then

SHUT THE FUCK UP, ALREADY!

 

[SuperHeroRalph]

Someone's got their knickers in a twist. And no, I don't start trouble every time I post. Just with certain people.

As far as the contests being unfair, I learned that a long time ago, which is one of the reasons I rarely enter them any more. I don't foam and froth at the mouth or write post after post after post after post after post after post after post after post after post (you get the idea) of how unfairly the contests are or how unfairly I'm treated.

But still, if it's not about winning contests for you, why bring it up time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time (you get the idea) again? This thread isn't about winning contests, but rather the number of entries in said contests. You're the one who brought up the topic of winning contests and the fairness of that, or lack of fairness.

Cuss at me and insult me all you want, Freddie, it doesn't change the fact that you haven't stopped bitching about not winning contests since 2008. If winning them isn't important to you then

SHUT THE FUCK UP, ALREADY!

We both know that you're not a stupid woman, Sheryl, but you just act fucking dumb when you post something like this.

In case you're prematurely celebrated the July 4th holiday with too much to drink at 8am in the morning, allow me to spell it out for you. Okay?

I didn't bring up anything about the contests here being unfair. Scroll to the top of this thread and you'll see that this thread was started by Dark and not by me. This thread was a direct attack at me for writing too many stories on a story board.

All I did was to defend myself and then you appear from out of your little trailer somewhere in Detroit to start shit with me. If I didn't know any better, I'd figure you were a shill for Literotica, too.

I wasn't bitching about anything, Michchick. I was minding my own business writing contest stories. For you not to see that tell me that either your drunk or drugged out on Cheese Doodles. Which ever the reason for you to attack me, too, out of the clear blue, is of no consequence to me.

The fact remains is that, as a writer, I'm being attacked for writing too many stories on a story board. That's it in a nutshell, Michchick. Now for you to bring in past histories that are still unresolved and unproven, tells me that you are unable to move past the past.

The question is, should a writer be limited to submitting a certain number of contest stories.

The fact that this thread was started by Dark, the fact that Scouries and Dark knew that I had submitted a story on this very subject, before the story even posted, is an eye opener, don't you think Michchick?

C'mon, Sheryl, you're no dummy. We've had conversations in the past. You're a savvy chick. You know the score, as I do.

I haven't changed. I'm too old to change. I write stories. I mind my own business, but attack me and I'll defend my passion to write.

Fine, you don't want me winning a contest because the contests here a fixed, that's fine too. I'll just write my stories, which is what I've been doing for the past two years, that is, until this fuckwad posts this thread and Scouries continues attacking me.

Yet, I'm the one starting all the trouble. Just as I didn't get it when DanilleKitten and others attacked me in 2007 and 2008, I don't get it now in 2011.

I'm the winner here. I'm the self-righteous man. I'm a man who does no wrong. I just write my stories.

The proof that my stories are better than the contest winning stories is that nearly every time I write a story, it appears on the 30 day, 12 month, or all-time list, even though great extents have been done to discourage me from writing here.

When they post my stories, they post them at the bottom. When my stories hit the most read board, never is when I'm given one of those dialogue boxes that describes my stories. My scores, all of them, are limited by Literotica. I'm not allowed to have any Red H's.

Prove me wrong, Michchick. Prove me wrong, Dark. Prove me wrong, Scouries.

You won't because you can't. All that you can do is what you've done, since I first started writing here. You point the blame at me. It's all my fault, just because I write too many stories.

I must be an asshole, huh (lmao)?

 

[michchick98]

I didn't bring up anything about the contests here being unfair. Scroll to the top of this thread and you'll see that this thread was started by Dark and not by me. This thread was a direct attack at me for writing too many stories on a story board.

I never said you started the thread, I simply stated you're going off on a tangent about something completely different than the topic of this thread. And here's a hint, sunshine: not every thing is about you.

And if you didn't bring up anything about the contest being unfair, then I guess these posts weren't yours?

What the fuck? I don't have a fucking chance of winning a contest here anyway. What fucking difference does it make if I, me, enter one fucking contest story or a hundred fucking contest stories.

I know, what about this? What if I only wrote stories while typing one handed. Would that be fairer, even though I have never won a contest here and will never win a contest here?


Let me tell you something about these writing contests. Come closer to the screen so that everyone doesn't see.

These contests are all fake. Phony. The same people win over and over and over again and, guess what Dark. You're one of them.

Many of my stories are better than those stories that have won contest here, yet, I'm not allowed to win. It doesn't matter. The proof of my stories are on the 30 day most read list, the 12 month most read list, and the all-time most read list.

Winning a contest, earning Red H's, Blue W's, or Green E's is not as important to me as writing a good story and becoming a better writer, which is why my stories routinely appear on the most read lists.

So, what does that tell you that you have a page full of blue W's and routinely have stories hitting all the three most read lists?

It tells me that these contests are fake and phony. It tells me that you're a cheating fraud. It tells me that Red H's, story scores, and Blue W's are manipulated.

How many others are Literotica plants? What does a writer have to do to have a fair and honest contest, where everyone can win and not have the same people win with average stories that no one wants to read.

Yet, here I am, the writer of 1,000 stories, a writer who has never won a contest here, and I have multiple storis on the 30 day most read list, the 12 month most read list, and the all-time most read list.

Now, not having won a contest, I thought I was a lousy writer, that is, until I started seeing all my contest losing stories popping up on the most read lists. Weird, huh, Weird Harold?

And those are all just from THIS thread.

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I wasn't bitching about anything, Michchick.

Then perhaps someone should remind you of the difference between bitching and not bitching.

The fact remains is that, as a writer, I'm being attacked for writing too many stories on a story board. That's it in a nutshell, Michchick. Now for you to bring in past histories that are still unresolved and unproven, tells me that you are unable to move past the past.

The fact remains, Freddie, that as long as you continue the same practices, you'll continue to get grief for it. Grow a thicker skin or find another site to write for. No one's forcing you to stick around. You've been bitching, yes BITCHING, about the same shit for the better part of 3 years now, Freddie. Don't you think it's getting old?

No matter what ID you have, people can tell it's you immediately by your posting style. If you don't want to get "bashed" and treated unfairly and everything else you bitch about (yes, I said BITCH about) then create a user ID, write your stories and SHUT THE FUCK UP.

You've alienated and pissed off so many people over the years that as soon as they know your new ID, they're going to attack you. Either you need to get over it and just ignore it or change your ways.

The question is, should a writer be limited to submitting a certain number of contest stories.

So you DO know what the topic of the thread is. And you're getting awfully pissed off about it. Let it go. Move on. So what if people are annoyed with the number of contest entries you submit? WHO CARES? For you to get this damned upset is ridiculous.

The fact that this thread was started by Dark, the fact that Scouries and Dark knew that I had submitted a story on this very subject, before the story even posted, is an eye opener, don't you think Michchick?

First your dear friend scouries accuses authors of working for Literotica, now you. Really grasping at straws there, huh?

C'mon, Sheryl, you're no dummy. We've had conversations in the past. You're a savvy chick. You know the score, as I do.

I haven't changed. I'm too old to change. I write stories. I mind my own business, but attack me and I'll defend my passion to write.

Maybe you should change, Freddie. Obviously what you're doing isn't getting you very far now.

Just sayin'.

Fine, you don't want me winning a contest because the contests here a fixed, that's fine too. I'll just write my stories, which is what I've been doing for the past two years, that is, until this fuckwad posts this thread and Scouries continues attacking me.

And just for the record, you didn't bring up winning contests first, right? Just like you claimed you weren't andtheend, PositiveThinker, WmForrester, CarBuffStuff and all the other alts you have? If I remember correctly, you used to say "I have no alts. I'm only BOSTONFICTIONWRITER. I only write as BOSTONFICTIONWRITER. I want credit for everything I write, good or bad."

So yeah.

Again, not everything is about you. And as far as scouries attacking you, you're the one who made friends with him, knowing the kind of person he was. So get over it. Won't be so quick to defend someone again, will you?

Yet, I'm the one starting all the trouble. Just as I didn't get it when DanilleKitten and others attacked me in 2007 and 2008, I don't get it now in 2011.

And that shit with Dani happened 4 years ago. When are you gonna let it go?

I'm the winner here. I'm the self-righteous man. I'm a man who does no wrong. I just write my stories.

Then shut the fuck up and write them already.

The proof that my stories are better than the contest winning stories is that nearly every time I write a story, it appears on the 30 day, 12 month, or all-time list, even though great extents have been done to discourage me from writing here.

And I think we've established (through scouries enormous ego) that those lists don't mean diddly-squat in the contests, so why bring them up. I mean, besides to stroke your own ego of course.

When they post my stories, they post them at the bottom. When my stories hit the most read board, never is when I'm given one of those dialogue boxes that describes my stories. My scores, all of them, are limited by Literotica. I'm not allowed to have any Red H's.

Prove me wrong, Michchick. Prove me wrong, Dark. Prove me wrong, Scouries.

You won't because you can't. All that you can do is what you've done, since I first started writing here. You point the blame at me. It's all my fault, just because I write too many stories.

Then if you're so goddamned unhappy here, why bother sticking around? Seriously. You've been bitching (yes, I said BITCHING again) about this for 3 years. It's getting old and you're not really helping your cause any. I'd imagine most people are laughing at you and your old, recycled rants and insults.

I must be an asshole, huh (lmao)?

Well, if the shoe fits...

 

[SuperHeroRalph]

Thank you for keeping this thread alive, Michchick. You're a sweetie.

Let me think what I did wrong, the same thing that I did wrong in 2007 as BOSTONFICTIONWRITER, in 2008, as BOSTONFICTIONWRITER, in 2009 as CarBuffStuff, PositiveThinker, and WmForrester, in 2010, as AndTheEnd, and now in 2011 as SuperHeroRalph.

I write stories. I'm a writer. I love to write. My passion is writing.

Shut the fuck up?

Was it me who started this thread, Michchick? No.

Was it me complaining about how many contest stories that I submit? No.

Did I attack anyone because I write stories? No.

Did I start a thread attacking anyone because I write stories? No.

Did I start a thread complaining about how unfair these writing contests are? No.

So, what is it that I did that I've been doing since 2007. I write stories.

Having written more than 1,000 stories, 100 poems, and 6 million words that have amassed more than 60 million hits, when do I have time to do anything but write stories?

I had to stop writing a contest story that I'm submitting today to defend myself and to answer your deranged posts.

If you don't mind, please respond to this post, so that we can keep this thread alive and more people will read it.

Thank you so very much for you cooperation. Here's hoping that a firework doesn't explode up your ass. Have a wonderful fourth of July.

 

[oggbashan]

My rough count shows 54 contest entries. Given the statistics of numbers of members of Literotica, and even the much smaller but still large number of people who have submitted at least one story, the competitions ought to attract hundreds or thousands of entries, not less than a hundred.

I think that a better poll might be: How can we increase the number of entries to the themed contests?

 

[lovecraft68]

My rough count shows 54 contest entries. Given the statistics of numbers of members of Literotica, and even the much smaller but still large number of people who have submitted at least one story, the competitions ought to attract hundreds or thousands of entries, not less than a hundred.

I think that a better poll might be: How can we increase the number of entries to the themed contests?

Personally the reason I won't enter a contest is the alts. I was going to enter the Halloween one last year but kept looking at was going on and decided against it.

Thing is I am not obsessed with scoring and if a story does not get the H it is not a big deal. I also don't mind getting negative remarks and although the 1 bomb troll attacks annoy me a little it's because I write incest and have come to expect them.

But in a contest the one bombs and "abuse" come from either the endless alts of certain authors or the fans of other authors who will trash the story because they want their fav to win.

To me it is not worth the aggravation of seeing my work voted down to a 3 for no reason other than trolling and sabotage. If I am going to get beat up I want it to be legit. I also think that their is some favortism going on here and there from the powers that be as well. So for me it's just like why bother? If I want a beaten I'll do it for recreation at home.

I think at the end of the day the only solution and it will never happen is for lit try to find a way to stop allowing people to make alts. Maybe start asking for more info to sign up other than an e-mail addy.

Side question now. In the 12th annual awards Laurel say that if they discover that any of the nominations are "alts" or even the author nominating themselves. It is only counted as a half of a vote. so question is if they know it is an alt why should it even be a half vote? It should not count at all.

 

[michchick98]

Personally the reason I won't enter a contest is the alts. I was going to enter the Halloween one last year but kept looking at was going on and decided against it.

Thing is I am not obsessed with scoring and if a story does not get the H it is not a big deal. I also don't mind getting negative remarks and although the 1 bomb troll attacks annoy me a little it's because I write incest and have come to expect them.

But in a contest the one bombs and "abuse" come from either the endless alts of certain authors or the fans of other authors who will trash the story because they want their fav to win.

To me it is not worth the aggravation of seeing my work voted down to a 3 for no reason other than trolling and sabotage. If I am going to get beat up I want it to be legit. I also think that their is some favortism going on here and there from the powers that be as well. So for me it's just like why bother? If I want a beaten I'll do it for recreation at home.

I think at the end of the day the only solution and it will never happen is for lit try to find a way to stop allowing people to make alts. Maybe start asking for more info to sign up other than an e-mail addy.

Side question now. In the 12th annual awards Laurel say that if they discover that any of the nominations are "alts" or even the author nominating themselves. It is only counted as a half of a vote. so question is if they know it is an alt why should it even be a half vote? It should not count at all.

That was one of the reasons I stopped entering. Another reason was because my offline life took front burner to my writing for a long time and once I got back to writing, things hadn't changed much.

I suspect that's why a lot of people stopped entering (because of the alts.) If more interest could be generated, or perhaps change up the special contests from year to year, maybe that'd draw people back. And yes (at the risk of the same old boring insults from Freddie ) I think entries per person should be limited, but there's where you'd get into alts if someone has more than the limit of stories they'd like to submit.

 

[LindsayRae]

Since this thread is about me and only me, perhaps I should give my opinion.

Well, Literotica instituted the no chapter rule, unofficially called the BOSTONFICTIONWRITER rule because I wrote too many chapter stories.

They said that a story had to completely stand alone. Henceforth, I've abided by that stupid rule and have written stories that are stand alone.

Now, we want a limit on contest stories submitted.

Why not just call this thread the rule to limit AndTheEnd, BOSTONFICTIONWRITER, CarBuffStuff, PositiveThinker, WmForrester, and SuperHeroRalph from submitting more than one contest story on a story fucking board.

Oh, yeah, that makes sense. Let's limit a writer who has the talent, the gift, the imagination, and the creativity to write stories at will.

Yeah, let's deny Freddie from writing any more stories.

What the fuck? I don't have a fucking chance of winning a contest here anyway. What fucking difference does it make if I, me, enter one fucking contest story or a hundred fucking contest stories.

I have a suggestion. How about this one Dark? No one fucking writer can win more than one fucking contest in a year. How about that fucking rule?

Let's see, how many contests have you won?

Wait, let's go further. No fucking writer can win more than one contest in a lifetime.

Do you like that rule, Dark? How many blue W's do you have on your page?

What's the percentage of blue W's to the number of stories have you written?

Now, let's look at my fucking stories. I've written more than one thousand stories here. Hold on a second, while I tally all the blue W's on all of my scorecards.

Let's see. AndTheEnd...zero. BOSTONFICTIONWRITER...zero. CarBuffStuff...zero. PositiveThinker...zero. WmForrester...zero. SuperHeroRalph...zero.

Hold on a second, while I tabulate my percentage of blue W's against the number of stories that I've submitted.

Hmm, that's weird. My percentage is zero.

So, let me get this straight. If I never won a fucking contest here, why the fuck are you so afraid of me?

Many of my stories are better than those stories that have won contest here, yet, I'm not allowed to win. It doesn't matter. The proof of my stories are on the 30 day most read list, the 12 month most read list, and the all-time most read list.


Freddie aka AndTheEnd, BOSTONFICTIONWRITER, CarBuffStuff, PositiveThinker, WmForrester, and SuperHeroRalph

You are BostonFictionWriter? Those stories royally sucked ass and were of no quality. Seemed someone used multiple computers/ISPs to bump the scores to an H and then "magically" BFW would disable voting to "lock in that score".

I was actually a little bit saddened to see the new rule of "no chapters" allowed in the Survivor or holiday contests, but I can understand why it was added when people like you abused that privildge.

And, before you try to critisize me or say that "you're a by far better author than I" or try to run your mouth saying "but you don't even have any stories at Lit, dummy", I have had stories at Lit in the past (2005-07) and took them down due to some trolling and my own hopes of improving my tales anyway.

Rarely do I come to this board, but figured I'd give it a peek today. Just my two cents...