Lesbian incest!

[robbie_boy1]

How can it have anything to do with lesbian incest if he's a guy? I'm sure there are throngs of regular incest-related topics in some of these forums that he can share his experiences in.

Oh, by the way, I had pasta for lunch today. And I saw this funny looking dog outside the italian place I ate in. It only had three legs, one ear and no tail. It hobbled around like it was on acid. It was funny.

I hope this tidbit of information piffed up the forum.

the dogs name is Lucky

 

[Guest]

How can it have anything to do with lesbian incest if he's a guy? I'm sure there are throngs of regular incest-related topics in some of these forums that he can share his experiences in.

Oh, by the way, I had pasta for lunch today. And I saw this funny looking dog outside the italian place I ate in. It only had three legs, one ear and no tail. It hobbled around like it was on acid. It was funny.

I hope this tidbit of information piffed up the forum.

It might be your need to come here and vent, and to each his own. Many of us are here because of the sense of community and the friendships that we share. And for the fun. There is fun and loads of it.

There are many serious topics discussed which is good, but for me there is more to being a lesbian than serious topics.

 

[jimwilshow1]

I think it might be both

We know that it does happen, I think Lust2Learn has verified that! I think it is probably nowhere near as common as heterosexual incest, though, simply because there are more straight people out there than gay people (or so it seems).

I'm curious, what is it you find taboo about lesbian incest specifically? That is, is it more the incest that's taboo, or the fact that it's lesbian relations? I am just curious.

I think it might be because both are so mysterious, yet daring and exciting. I guess it is the turn on of being able to watch something so forbiddening. I know I do enjoy watching people have sex and masterbating to the exhibition being given. I guess both would be a new high for me. Is this wrong?

 

[jimwilshow1]

I read roxanne story before she posted it today

I did read Roxanne story and I like the suspense that build up as I read about how the Joyce was first seduce by the money and the power of the rich benifactor and then slowly allowed herself to be caught in a web in which she would make love first to the power and then to her own product (her daughter) as if she was slowly taking back control. I think that I liked the wanton seductive nature of the story and the fact that a repressed woman allowed herself to be seduced and to embrace the lust she felt for her caretaker and her daughter. Okay, I guess perhaps, maybe I find myself wishing I could be a seducer and cross the forbidden zone to see how far it could go.

Sorry, I am rambling, but I admit, as perverted as it may be to others, I like the forbidden (group, incest, lesbian incest) and find that reading stories helps me to enjoy my fanasties without actually hurting or abusing anyone.

I hope this makes sense. If not, I will think more on this and come up with a clear concise reason for enjoying the fanasties I concur.

 

[Roxanne Appleby]

I did read Roxanne story and I like the suspense that build up as I read about how the Joyce was first seduce by the money and the power of the rich benefactor and then slowly allowed herself to be caught in a web in which she would make love first to the power and then to her own product (her daughter) as if she was slowly taking back control. I think that I liked the wanton seductive nature of the story and the fact that a repressed woman allowed herself to be seduced and to embrace the lust she felt for her caretaker and her daughter. Okay, I guess perhaps, maybe I find myself wishing I could be a seducer and cross the forbidden zone to see how far it could go.

This is on the verge of threadjacking but I feel I must respond. First of all, thank you for the kind words about the story, and I'm very glad you enjoyed it.

Your characterization of Joyce being "seduced by the money," "caught up in the web," and "make love to the power" is so different from the way all the other readers who have sent feedback read it, and the way I intended it. In my mind, and to most readers, the gift was a completely open-handed act of generosity that gave pleasure to the giver, and had no agenda beyond that - certainly not the weaving of "a web." The subsequent seduction was not quite accidental, but resulted from peculiar circumstances unrelated to the gift. Specifically, Susan (the benefactor) trying to find a solution to Kara’s “mom-lust” that made everybody happy and hurt no one.

The "repressed woman allowed herself to be seduced and to embrace the lust she felt for her caretaker and her daughter" is right on, though - that's the way I intended it and others have read it. Maybe I misread your comments on the rest, or maybe this is just another one of those lessons that once a creator hands her creation over to the public she has no control over what they do with it.

Sorry for the digression from this thread - this really belongs in story feedback or discussion circle. But it came up here and I just needed to respond. And to you Jimwilshow1, my bottom line response is once again, thank you for saying nice things about my story, even if some of them are puzzling.

 

[BitterIchor]

It might be your need to come here and vent, and to each his own. Many of us are here because of the sense of community and the friendships that we share. And for the fun. There is fun and loads of it.

There are many serious topics discussed which is good, but for me there is more to being a lesbian than serious topics.

I don't see your point. More to being a lesbian than serious topics? Huh?

But hey, whatever. If the management of this forum thinks it's a good idea to allow and encourage off topic discussions, fine.

 

[killallhippies]

I don't see your point. More to being a lesbian than serious topics? Huh?

But hey, whatever. If the management of this forum thinks it's a good idea to allow and encourage off topic discussions, fine.

it is a good idea to allow and encourage off topic discussions otherwise the only people who would post here would be uptight, overly serious jerkoffs with no souls.

 

[BitterIchor]

it is a good idea to allow and encourage off topic discussions otherwise the only people who would post here would be uptight, overly serious jerkoffs with no souls.

You mean, people like me? Hey, how goes that saying, "there can be no light without uptightness"?

 

[Lust2Learn]

Final Comments

It might be your need to come here and vent, and to each his own. Many of us are here because of the sense of community and the friendships that we share. And for the fun. There is fun and loads of it.

I want to leave my final comments. I posted clearly stating I was talking about LESBIAN INCEST between adults and actually looking for comments from other women who had similar if not the same experiences as me. To try and understand better what I/we feel. I did not get any but considering the way I was treated I am not surprised. If there are any of you who have that experience and want to talk about message me and we can discuss privately rather than subject yourself to some people on this board.

Roxanne has given me much to think about emotional issues may still be a problem that I will have to deal with. Since I posted here maybe I have some doubts but no shame no guilt just enjoyment right now.

The rest of th epeople here offered less than support.

"they are child molesters"
"it is a sickness"
"you should be ashamed"
"it is against the teachings of the bible"
"it is disgusting"

It seems to me that all these things have been said, all too often, about gay people.

So to those of you who showed some caring Thank You.

L2L

 

[Roxanne Appleby]

Roxanne has given me much to think about emotional issues may still be a problem that I will have to deal with. Since I posted here maybe I have some doubts but no shame no guilt just enjoyment right now. So to those of you who showed some caring Thank You.
L2L

 

[Ms.Breaker]

It might be your need to come here and vent, and to each his own. Many of us are here because of the sense of community and the friendships that we share. And for the fun. There is fun and loads of it.

I want to leave my final comments. I posted clearly stating I was talking about LESBIAN INCEST between adults and actually looking for comments from other women who had similar if not the same experiences as me. To try and understand better what I/we feel. I did not get any but considering the way I was treated I am not surprised. If there are any of you who have that experience and want to talk about message me and we can discuss privately rather than subject yourself to some people on this board.

Roxanne has given me much to think about emotional issues may still be a problem that I will have to deal with. Since I posted here maybe I have some doubts but no shame no guilt just enjoyment right now.

The rest of th epeople here offered less than support.

"they are child molesters"
"it is a sickness"
"you should be ashamed"
"it is against the teachings of the bible"
"it is disgusting"

It seems to me that all these things have been said, all too often, about gay people.

So to those of you who showed some caring Thank You.

L2L

I'm sorry if it seems like I'm jumping in on you but this is my point. There should be no enjoyment in incest of ANY variety. If you are the elder in the relationship how can you look with sexual love or lust into the eyes of a woman that WAS a little girl you were family to? If you're the younger there is more of a blurred line but that's still an elder FAMILY member. There should be no issue of consent. There should be no feeling bad about it because it shouldn't happen at all. Family is sancrosanct. It is the one taboo that should never be crossed. Hell, rape is more forgivable than allowing yourself to have sexual relations with FAMILY.

 

[Roxanne Appleby]

I'm sorry if it seems like I'm jumping in on you but this is my point. There should be no enjoyment in incest of ANY variety. If you are the elder in the relationship how can you look with sexual love or lust into the eyes of a woman that WAS a little girl you were family to? If you're the younger there is more of a blurred line but that's still an elder FAMILY member. There should be no issue of consent. There should be no feeling bad about it because it shouldn't happen at all. Family is sancrosanct. It is the one taboo that should never be crossed. Hell, rape is more forgivable than allowing yourself to have sexual relations with FAMILY.

I suspect that for the most part you are correct, but to just assert these things as axioms that must be accepted without trying to explain why is not too far removed from saying, "because God said so!" or "because that's what I feel." The latter means your assertions certainly apply to you yourself, but you have offered them as universals. They may be, but you have not made the case. (I think Mike260 did make a pretty solid case, and he left a teensy bit of space to accomodate the wondrous variety of human experience.)

 

[sigsauerprinces]

Hell, rape is more forgivable than allowing yourself to have sexual relations with FAMILY.

are you seriously serious? RAPE is more forgivable than a consensual sex act between two family members? i'm not saying i agree with incest, but for fucks sake..rape is one of the most horrible things a human being can go through-i don't see how you can compare it to ANY consensual act, no matter who it's between.

 

[Etoile]

But hey, whatever. If the management of this forum thinks it's a good idea to allow and encourage off topic discussions, fine.

The management of this forum has dealt with this issue in the past and while we appreciate your input we will continue to moderate the forum in the way that has been most successful.

 

[Etoile]

are you seriously serious? RAPE is more forgivable than a consensual sex act between two family members? i'm not saying i agree with incest, but for fucks sake..rape is one of the most horrible things a human being can go through-i don't see how you can compare it to ANY consensual act, no matter who it's between.

I'm inclined to agree with ssp. I'm rather shocked by the suggestion that rape is more forgivable than any consensual act. I can't imagine that proposition holding much water in modern society. Yes, consensual incest is more taboo than rape, but more forgivable? I don't think you'd find anybody who would agree after they thought about it for 10 seconds.

 

[interface]

Lesbian incest can be speculated upon by anyone, very simply, because having a vagina or a penis has nothing to do with the taboos of incest, and people are people.

In my mind, rape is no worse than assault (logically, many ways of raping are much less worse than assault, as assault in almost any way can also be attempted murder, but this examination excludes emotional damage. I'm thinking along the lines of Life being more precious than not being sexually violated), because they really are the same thing wether or not a sex organ is involved or not. But, it doesn't make rape any less horrible than it is.

For 'badness' I guess, my views are:

consensual sex of any kind < attempted murder

rape = assault ( unless the assault or rape includes attempted murder.)

Incest = homosex = heterosex = bestialty (as long as consensual; Incest should not produce children; animals know pain and pleasure and aren't known emotionally harmed by bestiality, so as long as the animal enjoys it/neutral and is not caused pain)

Sodomy can be icky, but pleasurable.


I have hijacked this thread possibly even more.

 

[BitterIchor]

The management of this forum has dealt with this issue in the past and while we appreciate your input we will continue to moderate the forum in the way that has been most successful.

The subservient subjects of this forum appreciate your slightly condescending tone and the prompt answer to my sarcastic statement. We well also continue to drop the occasional acrid comment in accordance with our opinions on the matter.

 

[Ms.Breaker]

I'm inclined to agree with ssp. I'm rather shocked by the suggestion that rape is more forgivable than any consensual act. I can't imagine that proposition holding much water in modern society. Yes, consensual incest is more taboo than rape, but more forgivable? I don't think you'd find anybody who would agree after they thought about it for 10 seconds.

I'm sorry, I don't feel with any incest that involves "parental" figures, and that means anyone of your parnet's generation and one of a generation beneath the parents there can EVER be true consent. The Familial bond should cloud over ANY sexuality or ability to consent in sex. So in my belief yes Incest of any of the above classified variety is as bad as rape. Sorry One should never fuck inside of one's own gene pool. And I'm sorry I don't mean fuck as the penetrative sexual activity. I mean it as ANY form of sex. Bi, Straight, or homosexual. These are MY opinions. Sorry they won't change or be swayed.

 

[Ms.Breaker]

I suspect that for the most part you are correct, but to just assert these things as axioms that must be accepted without trying to explain why is not too far removed from saying, "because God said so!" or "because that's what I feel." The latter means your assertions certainly apply to you yourself, but you have offered them as universals. They may be, but you have not made the case. (I think Mike260 did make a pretty solid case, and he left a teensy bit of space to accomodate the wondrous variety of human experience.)

I would think that these axioms would fall under common sense. Human variety shouldn't include sexual liasons within one's one family. That's a pretty cut and dry thing.

 

[interface]

Common sense and lack of reason are not the same thing. Common sense is supposed to be simple logic, and backing up beliefs statements with reason is simple logic. Common perception is what you're looking for.

 

[Ms.Breaker]

Common sense and lack of reason are not the same thing. Common sense is supposed to be simple logic, and backing up beliefs statements with reason is simple logic. Common perception is what you're looking for.

No. Sense is what I said and sense is what I meant. There is no logic or sense in relations of a sexual nature within a family. Hence it is common sense, or if you wish to argue semantics it is without any logic or reason. What logic can there be that says it is okay to have sex with a relative? What reason can there be to damage the bond of family by adding a sexual bond as well?

 

[Etoile]

What reason can there be to damage the bond of family by adding a sexual bond as well?

But what if it doesn't damage the bond of family? I realize you could insist that it always does, but thinking hypothetically - what if it didn't

 

[Ms.Breaker]

But what if it doesn't damage the bond of family? I realize you could insist that it always does, but thinking hypothetically - what if it didn't

If I could even hypothocize this I would check myself in for psychiatric help.

 

[Etoile]

If I could even hypothocize this I would check myself in for psychiatric help.

Heh, okay then. *shrug*

 

[BlueEyesInLevis]

But what if it doesn't damage the bond of family? I realize you could insist that it always does, but thinking hypothetically - what if it didn't

If a frog had wings it wouldnt bump it ass when it landed.