Legal right to a quality fuck?

[Liar]

Dunno what to say really. The way the article is written is sounds silly. You can't change culture and attitudes by legislation.

But on the other hand it could be a law saying "If he use you like a Fleshlight, demands a deepthroat every morning, and couldn't find your clit with a Sherpa, you may have legal grounds for divorce."

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Ecuador could make good sex a right for women
Wednesday, April 30, 2008

A new inalienable right could be enshrined soon in Ecuador's constitution: the pursuit of sexual happiness for women.

The proposal by a member of the ruling party has created a stir in this socially conservative Andean nation, where a constitutional assembly is at work.

Assembly member Maria Soledad Vela, who belongs to President Rafael Correa's party and sits on a committee defining fundamental constitutional rights, said women have traditionally been seen as sexual objects or in a solely reproductive role in Ecuador.

On Monday, Vela said the right to sexual enjoyment means ensuring women can make free, responsible and informed decisions about their sex lives.

Fellow committee members proposed separate provisions for women's sexual and reproductive rights, an alternative Vela approved.

Opposition Assembly member Leonardo Viteri accused Vela of trying to decree orgasm by law, saying it 'isn't possible.'

'I never asked for the right to orgasm, only the right to enjoyment,' Vela responded.

 

[impressive]

Well, "rights" are funny things. Without laws & associated penalties, they're basically worthless. I really don't see how this, even if it becomes a legal right, can be legislated and enforced.

The implementing regulations of The Sexual Empowerment Act of 2008 would read like a Jeff Foxworthy skit: You Might Be an Asshole If...

 

[Pure]

interesting!

i can see one benefit, if this happens: the man's negligence or self absorption in this area might be grounds for divorce. i doubt that it is now, in ecuador. indeed, in the US, i have my doubts also. the exception might be in those states which recognize 'mental cruelty' as grounds; this, however, requires the argument that the deprivation amounts to cruelty.

 

[voluptuary_manque]

i can see one benefit, if this happens: the man's negligence or self absorption in this area might be grounds for divorce. i doubt that it is now, in ecuador. indeed, in the US, i have my doubts also. the exception might be in those states which recognize 'mental cruelty' as grounds; this, however, requires the argument that the deprivation amounts to cruelty.

Well, I think it does! Just being out of town makes me feel deprived. The district should have been obligated to send Hot Mama along with me . . . or possibly a reasonable facsimile thereof!

 

[Liar]

i can see one benefit, if this happens: the man's negligence or self absorption in this area might be grounds for divorce. i doubt that it is now, in ecuador. indeed, in the US, i have my doubts also. the exception might be in those states which recognize 'mental cruelty' as grounds; this, however, requires the argument that the deprivation amounts to cruelty.

Never really got the hang of this divorce thing, to be honest. Is marriage a binding contract? Does one have to have special cause to get a divorce? (I mean legally, not morally.)

 

[rgraham666]

Like all things worth having, a quality fuck requires a lot of work. No Government can just give it to you.

 

[JagFarlane]

i can see one benefit, if this happens: the man's negligence or self absorption in this area might be grounds for divorce. i doubt that it is now, in ecuador. indeed, in the US, i have my doubts also. the exception might be in those states which recognize 'mental cruelty' as grounds; this, however, requires the argument that the deprivation amounts to cruelty.

Actually lack of a sex life is generally used as grounds for divorce, sometimes by men, often by women. Its not a major thing, as far as the divorce court goes, but they do use it. -shrugs- More often than not, though, divorces will happen more from what tends to happen during a lack of sex life, the spouse have an affair. Lawyers, though, will play it off as the lack of sex as a mental and emotional hardship

 

[lisa123414]

What does it mean, legally, that a woman ”… can make free, responsible and informed decisions about their sex lives?”

I see this as cultural attitude adjustment, as opposed to enforceable legislation. Shall I sue my spouse for enjoyment? How enjoyable would that be anyway? I don’t know how easy it is to divorce in Ecuador, but I expect that most people just want a little more intimacy and understanding of their needs. Men and women, both, worldwide, and maybe the women in Ecuador, more than some.

 

[fifty5]

As far as attitude change goes - persuading the dumbos that they should pleasure their women, not just themselves - maybe this is a good thing. (I assume that the presumption that there are a lot of guys over there that haven't cottoned on to that is valid???)

As others have touched upon, where does this lead? If the husband doesn't look after his wife, then what? Grounds for divorce has already been mentioned, but is it also to be a defence against adultery as grounds for divorce - "He didn't, so I made other arrangements. It's my right!"

IMHO, laws to regulate sex between adults are simply wrong - what business is it of the legislature - but legal statements about rights seem to me (other than maybe to change attitudes) must be ineffective: either one partner cares about the other or they don't. The state's posturing seems unlikely to affect that. And what about partners with different sex drives - does that count?

And where would independent testimony come from? The mind boggles.

 

[Guest]

Without knowing the actual wording of the proposed amendment it's difficult to be sure, but to me it looks like Maria Soledad Vela is doing an end run around the cultural norms that have relegated women to the roles of "...sexual objects or in a solely reproductive role in Ecuador."

"On Monday, Vela said the right to sexual enjoyment means ensuring women can make free, responsible and informed decisions about their sex lives."

I read that as (you should pardon the expression) laying the groundwork for later developments such as: Marital rape is rape (the wife would have the right to say no); the woman can use birth control as she sees fit; and sexual harassment would eventually become a crime (civil or criminal).

If Ecuador's legal system resembles that of the U.S., court cases and decisions by their Supreme Court would eventually result in these things being codified into law.

She's a smart cookie, seems to me.