Las Vegas shooting

[contrifan32]

Whatever happened to States Rights?

And if you try and bring your gun to Massachusetts, it will be taken from you.

Nonsense... fake news as usual.

 

[richard_daily]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DLeyaFNVoAALdu7.jpg

So tell us something about all of those people without using google. The hypocrisy is that they are now being used as ammunition by someone else.

 

[richard_daily]

Whatever happened to States Rights?

And if you try and bring your gun to Massachusetts, it will be taken from you.

So basically, you make a false claim, and then you fall back on an ad homonym? Come on. I expect a little better from you.

There's nothing in Massachusetts worth visiting anyways, so they won't be getting any of my tourism dollars anytime soon.

That said, they have a non-resident permit, so if I cared to visit that craphole, I could carry a gun if I wanted to, and I promise that a bunch of people already do. It helps me sleep better at night, but I'm sure it will do the opposite for you.

 

[BoyNextDoor]

So basically, you make a false claim, and then you fall back on an ad homonym? Come on. I expect a little better from you.

There's nothing in Massachusetts worth visiting anyways, so they won't be getting any of my tourism dollars anytime soon.

That said, they have a non-resident permit, so if I cared to visit that craphole, I could carry a gun if I wanted to, and I promise that a bunch of people already do. It helps me sleep better at night, but I'm sure it will do the opposite for you.

I admit it is wishful thinking (that we would take a non-resident's gun)

 

[richard_daily]

I admit it is wishful thinking (that we would take a non-resident's gun)

Your state's already lost the war against gun rights...

Since 1998, gun crime in Massachusetts has gotten worse, not better....

Don’t hold your breath waiting for gun-control activists to admit they were wrong. The treatment they prescribed may have yielded the opposite of the results they promised, but they’re quite sure the prescription wasn’t to blame.

“Massachusetts probably has the toughest laws on the books, but what happens is people go across borders and buy guns and bring them into our state,” rationalizes Boston Mayor Tom Menino. “Guns have no borders.”

This has become a popular argument in gun-control circles. It may even be convincing to someone emotionally committed to the belief that ever-stricter gun control is a plausible path to safety. But it doesn’t hold water.

For starters, why didn’t the gun-control lobby warn legislators in 1998 that adopting the toughest gun law in America would do Massachusetts no good unless every surrounding state did the same thing? ...It was gun-rights advocates, such as state Senator Richard Moore, who correctly predicted the future. “Much of what has been said in support of this bill will not come to pass,” said Moore during the 1998 debate. “The amount of crime we have now will at least continue.”

https://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion...s-less-safe/3845k7xHzkwTrBWy4KpkEM/story.html

 

[phrodeau]

Your state's already lost the war against gun rights...



https://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion...s-less-safe/3845k7xHzkwTrBWy4KpkEM/story.html

You have given one of the best arguments for federal gun control.

 

[richard_daily]

You have given one of the best arguments for federal gun control.

Except for that small fact that it's unconstitutional, and that the vast majority of people don't want it...

You know... two small problems. I'm sure the gun control folks can keep lying to people though, and maybe they'll win "the hearts and minds". Worked in iraq and vietnam, right?

 

[phrodeau]

Except for that small fact that it's unconstitutional, and that the vast majority of people don't want it...

You know... two small problems. I'm sure the gun control folks can keep lying to people though, and maybe they'll win "the hearts and minds". Worked in iraq and vietnam, right?

There's already federal gun control. Surprised?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firearm_Owners_Protection_Act

 

[phrodeau]

NRA officials Wayne LaPierre and Chris Cox have both made the argument recently that violent media like video games need to bear some responsibility for mass shootings.

Could it have been video poker games that sent Stephen Paddock over the edge with their violent imagery and aggressive gameplay? Let's look into that.

 

[Colonel Hogan]

NRA officials Wayne LaPierre and Chris Cox have both made the argument recently that violent media like video games need to bear some responsibility for mass shootings.

Could it have been video poker games that sent Stephen Paddock over the edge with their violent imagery and aggressive gameplay? Let's look into that.

Subpoena any purchasing activity at "de apps store."

http://res.cloudinary.com/dwhoj4km6/image/upload/v1460381788/Mobile-Strike-Game-Anold-Schwarzenegger_gikkzh.png

 

[phrodeau]

Subpoena any purchasing activity at "de apps store."

http://res.cloudinary.com/dwhoj4km6/image/upload/v1460381788/Mobile-Strike-Game-Anold-Schwarzenegger_gikkzh.png

Yep, the NRA thinks Arnold is part of the problem.

 

[BoyNextDoor]

Your state's already lost the war against gun rights...



https://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion...s-less-safe/3845k7xHzkwTrBWy4KpkEM/story.html

That is my point. 90 guns a year show up here in crimes and suicide that were bought in Maine and some unrecorded private transaction happens so the trail of ownership is lost and the gun is used in a crime or suicide.

That is why the law should be that if you buy a gun you are liable for its use in a crime and you should make sure you document its transfer.

 

[BoyNextDoor]

You have given one of the best arguments for federal gun control.

Except I don't think you can start there. Let's start in the States.

 

[phrodeau]

Except I don't think you can start there. Let's start in the States.

The states have had their chance and failed. How many more chances should they get?

 

[toeskr]

Whatever happened to States Rights?

And if you try and bring your gun to Massachusetts, it will be taken from you.

Haha! Haha!

They can try.

 

[toeskr]

I admit it is wishful thinking (that we would take a non-resident's gun)

You are a douchebag in the lowest form.

But we don't expect anything less from your ilk.

(WE), lol.

 

[Hypoxia]

Except I don't think you can start there. Let's start in the States

The states have had their chance and failed. How many more chances should they get?

Load one round in a revolver. Spin the cylinder. Bite the barrel. Pull the trigger. For a more certain outcome, use an automatic. That's how good chances are with the states. A bit of uncertainty before the inevitable end.

I see parallels with the abolition movement, which started around 1650 and took a couple hundred years to 'win', albeit imperfectly. A moral movement for rational firearms control might take as long. Assuming USA survives that long.

Check out this great Smithsonian article about a dwarf who shamed his Quaker brethren into opposing slavery.

The “Quaker Comet” Was the Greatest Abolitionist You’ve Never Heard Of

Overlooked by historians, Benjamin Lay was one of the nation’s first radicals to argue for an end to slavery

 

[BotanyBoy]

That is my point. 90 guns a year show up here in crimes and suicide that were bought in Maine and some unrecorded private transaction happens so the trail of ownership is lost and the gun is used in a crime or suicide.

That is why the law should be that if you buy a gun you are liable for its use in a crime and you should make sure you document its transfer.

LMFAO!!!!

Yea buddy....sure.

Anything to not hold the actual criminals committing crimes responsible eh?

Fuckin' birlliant!

 

[toeskr]

LMFAO!!!!

Yea buddy....sure.

Anything to not hold the actual criminals committing crimes responsible eh?

Fuckin' birlliant!

Clueless _ nextdoor, reaching for straws.

Maybe you should move to Mexico or Canada. Safe spaces ya know?

 

[Colonel Hogan]

LMFAO!!!!

Yea buddy....sure.

Anything to not hold the actual criminals committing crimes responsible eh?

Fuckin' birlliant!

And what if the offending weapon has changed hands three times? Which of the prior owners assume liability? All of them? Just the last one?

Do we extradite those owners if they or the gun winds up in other jurisdictions?

"Document the transfer"? Hell, all you've done is given ME a motivation for filing off the serial numbers because somehow I'M now responsible for HIS future criminal behavior that, apparently, I am somehow supposed to be able to predict and impede.

But, hey, at least he's thought it through.

 

[richard_daily]

There's already federal gun control. Surprised?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firearm_Owners_Protection_Act

No, I'm not surprised at all. I am aware of it. The only reason it passed was because white people where afraid of the Black Panthers.

Hopefully the NRA doesn't make the same sort of mistake again.

 

[richard_daily]

That is my point. 90 guns a year show up here in crimes and suicide that were bought in Maine and some unrecorded private transaction happens so the trail of ownership is lost and the gun is used in a crime or suicide.

That is why the law should be that if you buy a gun you are liable for its use in a crime and you should make sure you document its transfer.

So if someone steals your gun, you should go to jail for it?

 

[Colonel Hogan]

So if someone steals your gun, you should go to jail for it?

In his case, "that's not a bug; that's a feature."

 

[richard_daily]

In his case, "that's not a bug; that's a feature."

Hopefully he never sells a car to someone who drinks and drives.. He could be found liable!

 

[Wrong Element]

Ah, the familiar comparison of cars to guns. Totally on point.

"So if I choke to death on a piece of steak, can my family sue the butcher??" I can rattle off a whole bunch more irrelevancies and save you all the time.