Jurors to view hours of hard-core fetish pornography!

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

A Tampa jury convicted a porn film producer very recently. If the film offends the jury its obscene. THAT is the standard.

This is nothing new.

Back in the 20s Mencken was convicted in one court and acquited in another for the same magazine article.

 

[keeblercrumb]

Scat is fetish and should be protected by law. It is disgusting to me, and I never want to see any more than I (unfortunately) already have. But that doesn't mean that people should be prosecuted for it.

Bestiality, on the other hand, should be illegal not because it is smut, but because it is mistreatment of animals.

I agree with just about everything said on this thread by everyone... with the exception of this "bestiality" representing "mistreatment of animal".....

I mean really! Sanctity of all life forms or whatever, yeah.. of course, whatever they said on Star Trek, I agree with. But I have had my leg humped by one too many dogs to think they need to be protected by us humans when it comes to sex. What goes around, cums around, is what I say!

For an animal that enjoys sniffing shit, I somehow think a dog trained to lick some pussy has grabbed the brass ring of inter-species relationships. But if they don't like it, well wait around for the next evolutionary spin of "Planet of the Poodles" or whatever and change the order of things.

As for sheep or cows or horses..... it takes some kind of imagination to think their ingestion of plant material is at all bothered by some little-dick fetish freak.... and it certainly pales to the slaughtering, eating, de-hiding, riding, wool gathering and a host of other much more, shall we say “less kindly attentions” they routinely receive from humans!

// Note to editors: Please insert the normal disclaimer here "Now I don't personally...... blah, blah, blah" Thanks!//

-KC

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

KEEBLER

Here's what you and the gang dont get: America knows all of what you say, but America knows that if it doesnt draw the line somewhere you guys will wanna hump Lassie and Trigger on Main Street at noon. I mean, we've all seen the queers at Disney World do their thing in front of everyone.

 

[kromen]

As far as bestiality is concerned, I didn't know an animal who could sign a model release or consent form.
I have no words for skat fetish except I got tricked into watching Two Girls and a Cup last week. Holy Shit, I'll never be able to scrub that image from my mind. I don't feel bad about my meager porn collection now. Hell, spitting and fishooking is a little overboard for me.

Quick question? Does anyone here keep a copy of Deep Throat strickly for the 1st Amendment argument?

 

[Liar]

What the bloody blazes is "criminally obscene"? Is the guy forcing his movies onto people who don't want to watch them? If not, the prosecutors can all go fuck a fire hose.

Now, if illegalitites (cruelty to animals, or abuse of non consenting people) were committed during the making of said movies... that's another issue.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

LIAR
The Supremes made local sensibilities the standard for conviction. Man! I thought you wanted the People deciding things. Well they decided some of you guys are disgusting perverts.

 

[jomar]

The trial is being held in Los Angeles, CA of all places. I will be surprised if they get a conviction.

 

[Liar]

The Supremes made local sensibilities the standard for conviction.

They can go fuck a firehose too.

Man! I thought you wanted the People deciding things. Well they decided some of you guys are disgusting perverts.

The People, the Nanny State, the Bible Thumper Lobbyists... same shit, different cheapass rethoric.

I already know I'm a disgusting pervert. But as long as I don't impose my disgusting pervness on others, mind your own damn business.

 

[keeblercrumb]

LIAR
The Supremes made local sensibilities the standard for conviction. Man! I thought you wanted the People deciding things. Well they decided some of you guys are disgusting perverts.

It's good to be loved.....

But for all the brave words above in this thread, I find it truly ironic that in this place, of all places, there are so many people ready to stand in judgement when it comes to sexual standards of behavor.....

From the rediculous, (Using animals for sexual purpose without their consent (Oh give me a break... it's okay to chop them up for lunch but you want their consent before fucking them????) to the utterly rediculous (My self-proclaimed neo-fascist friend above appalled that there are "disgusting perverts" here!!),

In a nation which has no problem with frying and hanging people to death as "humane" punishment, ANY assertion that pornography of any kind is obcene and punishable under law is well..... obscene.

Your sexual proclivities are all healthy and normal but mine are disgusting....
Yeah.... right.

What I need, I guess, is a web site devoted to sex.... Oh wait.... THIS IS a site devoted to sex....

Curious....

-KC

 

[champagne1982]

<snip>For jurors to determine whether Isaacs' work is obscene, they will view hours of hard-core pornography so degrading that in one film, an actress cries throughout, prosecutors said in court papers.<snip>

Ok... No one has determined if the woman in this situation was in fact acting or being prostituted. Just because money changes hands between the participants and a producer of a film doesn't guarantee willing subjugation. If she was truly acting, then is the situation truly obscene or staged shock shit? And that still leaves the question of its literary, scientific or artistic value on the table.

 

[SlickTony]

The thing that has always annoyed the hell out of me is the imprecision of language people tend to use when discussing this topic.

For that matter, the imprecision of the word "obscene" is annoying.

The oldest meaning of the term "obscene" is repulsiving and disgusting.

But it's also defined as arousing prurient interest.

If something's full of scat, it's highly unlikely to arouse my prurient interest. It might gross me out.

If they can outlaw something because it might gross someone out, they should check out YouTube or the other video sites--there are zillions of videos dedicated to things like the squeezing of abscesses and zits, the debridement of brown recluse spider bites, the removal of botfly larvae, exotic dermatological afflictions, teratomae...one could go on and on and on.

 

[fifty5]

This issue is just shit anyway, but I'm slightly intrigued by that "literary, scientific or artistic value" bit. Science is fairly easy to detect, but does literary and artistic endeavour equate to value? I mean, if I painted a picture, with the highest artistic aims, it would still have negligible value, because I can't paint (I've picked up a brush by the wrong end when painting a wall!)

If one temporarily leaves out the porn issue, much artistic value is linked to cash value - if a painting sells for millions, it would be hard to present a case for low artistic value. Now reintroduce porn...

 

[Misty_Morning]

Oh, the irony of it all.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25103115/


heeheeheehee.

 

[Guest]

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[rgraham666]

Truth is stranger than fiction.

 

[DesertPirate]

Just another day on the 9th Circus Court