"Jumping GI Jane"

[AndersonsBiographer]

Happy Victory Day, comrades!

Finally wrote published something. Standard "kidnapped and impregnated" story, in the vein of works by @Baztrachian and Patrick Flanagan. Also includes my own personal interest in the theme of mind control, albeit in a more subdued manner than you'll see in other works, if I ever actually publish them.

I won't claim that it's any good, but I would like to imagine that it isn't terrible. I do think it's unique at least, insofar as it isn't a college student playing the role of the victim for once.

https://literotica.com/s/jumping-gi-jane

I don't know if everyone will be amused by the twist at the end, but it amused me and that's what really matters.

Discuss.

 

[mrs_mackenzie]

I don't frequently read mind control stories, but I do like a permanent-lifestyle-change plot so I gave this one a go.

Rather than reviewing the story itself, let's talk more broadly about the mind control element of NC/R as a discussion point.

In Jumping GI Jane, following her kidnapping she does make multiple serious attempts to overwhelm her kidnapper, which do seem more satisfyingly realistic on the basis of her military training. Then, once fully subdued by him and sure that there appears to be no way to escape, she 'submits' to drinking the mysterious mind control potion. The kidnapper then takes his time waiting for the potion to take its effect before having his way with her.

In this case, the focus of the mind control is the enforced impregnation and lifestyle change for Jane from soldier to mother, which is really at its core a change from an 'active' female role in society to the 'passive' one of being a mother. In fact, the actual sex is secondary and Jane enthusiastically consents to the impregnation due to the mind control.

The two questions for me, regarding mind control, are:

1. When using mind control to change from 'active' to 'passive', is this synonymous with changing to being 'submissive'? Is there a perception that women in society (in this case the army, but this could apply equally to any other role) are not being sufficiently submissive to men? In Jumping GI Jane, (spoiler) the mind control potion turns out to be a placebo, but does this mean that Jane was merely elaborately tricked or is the implication that she had an underlying dormant desire to be submissive which just needed to be unlocked? For me, the fantasy of being 'taken' and 'turned' implies a real desire not to do it, and I think if there's an underlying desire to be submissive then that means that this desire isn't real. I would suggest perhaps this speaks to reluctance more than anything, but in either case, it can feel reductive that any women, soldier or college student or anything, ultimately has a real desire merely to be submissive to a man, and a man who kidnaps her specifically. I can't speak for everyone but I know that my own fantasies in this area aren't based on this specific point.
2. Is this use of mind control, by contrast, actually making up for a male deficiency, in that the kidnapper feels unable to actually seduce a woman and fulfil her desire to be a mother and needs to do this by force instead? He feels threatened by a woman who has agency in society so needs to kidnap her, hide her away from society and fulfil a 'utopian' ideal of motherhood. Does this align with a male fantasy of 'taking by force' or against the woman's will? I can't speak for this area, of course, but it's a very common theme in erotica for the male party to put the woman in a position where she 'can't say no', such as a lost bet, a sex game, etc. and this seems to be an expansion of this.

 

[AndersonsBiographer]

I don't frequently read mind control stories, but I do like a permanent-lifestyle-change plot so I gave this one a go.

Rather than reviewing the story itself, let's talk more broadly about the mind control element of NC/R as a discussion point.

Hello!

Thanks for the feedback. There are some very good points that you raise here, and I appreciate the consideration.

In Jumping GI Jane, following her kidnapping she does make multiple serious attempts to overwhelm her kidnapper, which do seem more satisfyingly realistic on the basis of her military training.

I'm glad you liked the fight scenes. I second guessed myself a lot when I was writing them, since my actual knowledge of martial arts is spotty at best (as Jane would say, I learned just enough to hurt myself.) I have some edits to the story waiting in the queue that I think clarifies/improves these scenes slightly.

I would say it's her social background as much as her military training that causes her to fight back. Basic Training doesn't really teach a lot of combatives, apparently just a few days of classes where you learn simple moves and holds. It does get you to a certain level of physical fitness and self-confidence, and it also places you in an environment where the use of violence to resolve your problems is more acceptable than it would be in other modern professions.

"Maybe that's another reason why college coeds get preyed upon more often than those in the military: most colleges don't train and condition their students to kill."



Did you notice her warning Michael that she would aim for the back of his skull and not the side of it, it if she ever gets her hands on a candlestick holder? I don't know if you would learn about something like that in BCT, but you would definitely learn about it in high school boxing.

For the record, I was never in the military myself. My dad was Navy, a few of my cousins and a lot of my coworkers were Marines or Army. Lots of vets become teachers, for some reason.

Then, once fully subdued by him and sure that there appears to be no way to escape, she 'submits' to drinking the mysterious mind control potion. The kidnapper then takes his time waiting for the potion to take its effect before having his way with her.

Yeah. People typically don't fight once they know that it will gain them nothing except for further humiliation. That's why death row inmates almost never resist when prison guards walk them to the execution chamber. She really only struck out at him the first time in a desperate last-ditch effort to try avoiding what he had in store for her, and when it failed she was practical enough not to endure having the serum poured forcibly down her throat.

In this case, the focus of the mind control is the enforced impregnation and lifestyle change for Jane from soldier to mother, which is really at its core a change from an 'active' female role in society to the 'passive' one of being a mother. In fact, the actual sex is secondary and Jane enthusiastically consents to the impregnation due to the mind control.

That's one way to look at it. I saw her as going from a passive role to another, different kind of passive role. Her kidnapper even gives thanks to Uncle Sam for teaching her to follow orders without question.

She wasn't training for an active combat role. She was training to be a 46S (Forty Six Sierra), Public Affairs Mass Communications Specialist. That's Army Journalism, or Army personnel who serve as minders for civilian journalists. Or, what her kidnapper less-charitably calls a PR flack, much to her eventual anger. ("Stow your sanctimony, you filthy-rich yuppie shitbird!")

He makes the claim that he's only doing to her what the military, government, and big business routinely do to their own citizens, then he lists examples of real or imagined cases them dominating the common people for their own nefarious ends. There's MKULTRA, and the role that the CIA played in the 1980's crack epidemic, and the uncomfortably-close relationship between the US Intelligence Community and Social Media, and so on. It's left vague as to whether or not even he believes that the behavior of the ruling elites really justifies his own behavior.

Moral bioenhancement, as mentioned in the story, is a very real academic concept. The serum from my story may not exist yet (as far as we know, as far as our rulers are willing to tell us), but there are people out there, who have tenure, who will make the case that it should be used if it's ever developed.

It's a fascinating proposal, almost like classical brainwashing but without all of the painful/unpleasant parts. It would be interesting to see the concept handled by more people who focus on the "bioenhancement" and are not so hung up on the "moral" part. Or, is that just what the entirety of Literotica's mind control category really boils down to?

Too bad the paper is behind a paywall, because it sounds like an entertaining read. I especially love his idea on how to keep the "bad guys" from doing to the "good guys" what we want to do to them. We put poison in the brains of all our soldiers, and we program them to self-destruct like the robots that we see them as should they ever fall into enemy hands. This is what people mean when they speak of morality!?

When using mind control to change from 'active' to 'passive', is this synonymous with changing to being 'submissive'? Is there a perception that women in society (in this case the army, but this could apply equally to any other role) are not being sufficiently submissive to men?

There's a very strong undercurrent of desiring submission, I think. Especially when you also consider the BDSM component; strapping his captive into what is essentially a modern, non-bone-breaking take of the medieval/Renaissance-era Catherine Wheel.

In Jumping GI Jane, (spoiler) the mind control potion turns out to be a placebo, but does this mean that Jane was merely elaborately tricked or is the implication that she had an underlying dormant desire to be submissive which just needed to be unlocked?

I'm thinking it had less to do with dormant desire and more to do with what I previously said about the pliability of the human mind.

I wished I had more of a chance to examine the implications of cognitive dissonance and the Dunning-Kruger effect. Those are two excellent topics of study if you really want to learn just how broken human brains are.

People can get drunk on fake alcohol. They'll show signs of impaired judgement, memory loss, lowered inhibitions, all the things that you typically see in practically every case of alcohol making an appearance in a standard Literotica story. If the mere suggestion of alcohol is enough to have that effect on people, then it really does lead one to wonder what they'll do if they think they're being mind-controlled.

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[AndersonsBiographer]

For me, the fantasy of being 'taken' and 'turned' implies a real desire not to do it, and I think if there's an underlying desire to be submissive then that means that this desire isn't real. I would suggest perhaps this speaks to reluctance more than anything, but in either case, it can feel reductive that any women, soldier or college student or anything, ultimately has a real desire merely to be submissive to a man, and a man who kidnaps her specifically. I can't speak for everyone but I know that my own fantasies in this area aren't based on this specific point.

They discuss that over evening dinner. She states that she isn't adamantly opposed to the general idea of having sex or having children, even if she is initially willing to kill him for trying to force it on her.

She does asks if it would change anything if she had been:
"So, even if I had been an aspiring nun who swore a lifelong vow of celibacy, or a staunch anti-natalist who hated the very thought of pregnancy, you could completely override that if you wanted?"

He thinks he can:
"I find it a very real possibility that personalities can be redesigned or recreated at will, with the right technology and with enough time and effort."

He might be right, or he might not. That goes to the very heart of how much control you think that humans actually have over their own brains. Or their "souls," if you really want to go into those waters.

Is this use of mind control, by contrast, actually making up for a male deficiency, in that the kidnapper feels unable to actually seduce a woman and fulfil her desire to be a mother and needs to do this by force instead?

I had never in my life known true hardship, pain, fear, or inconvenience. And yet, coming home every night to an empty apartment high above the urban jungle, I always felt unhappy. It was only worsened on the few occasions I brought company up there. I knew what I wanted in a woman, and I very soon knew that none of my hookups could ever give that to me.

Oh, I suppose I could have been civilized about it. I could have gone to Ukraine or the Philippines and bought a wife to stay at home and raise the children I would have with her. I might have even been able to afford an American. But, for some reason, that just didn't settle for me. Blame it on the classical education my mom insisted upon I guess, maybe I just took Sabinae raptae a little too seriously. My desires were, well, they were well beyond society's conventions.

This implies that he wasn't unsuccessful romantically, and that he thought he could have gotten what he wanted through conventional/acceptable/legal means (e.g. mail-order bride). Why he didn't? Well, he halfway gives us a reason, inspired by classical apocrapha regarding the Rape of the Sabine Women, but that quite clearly isn't the whole of it.

He feels threatened by a woman who has agency in society so needs to kidnap her, hide her away from society and fulfil a 'utopian' ideal of motherhood. Does this align with a male fantasy of 'taking by force' or against the woman's will? I can't speak for this area, of course, but it's a very common theme in erotica for the male party to put the woman in a position where she 'can't say no', such as a lost bet, a sex game, etc. and this seems to be an expansion of this.

That's possible. Though I've suggested before that the burgeoning interest in incest erotica comes from the increasing alienation and loneliness of modern society. People are getting so incapable of connecting and socializing with each other that it's getting hard to imagine relationships forming between people who didn't happen to be born under the same roof.

But, alternately, consider the kidnapper's feelings towards the military. I mean, when he first grabbed her, he knew nothing at all about what she would be like as a person or how she would respond to him. She was a target of opportunity. The one and only thing he knew about her was that she was a soldier in the US Army.

Historically, bride-napping was very often an expression of contempt towards, or resistance against, something that the bride represented. One tribe of nomadic Tartars stole brides from a rival band of Tartars, a Muslim corsair stole a wife from a looted Christian galley, 16th century Peasant Rebels sang of keeping noblemens' daughters as their concubines, and social bandits all around the world have stories of them absconding from the castle with their Lady Love in hand. Though in those cases, and in many of the other cases going all the way back to the Sabine Women themselves, the women in the story are not always either passive or overly upset with what is happening to them.

 

[Melon_Morph]

Just a thought regarding the use of acronyms/jargon/etc.
It may be worth spelling it out the first time it is used, followed by putting the acronym in parentheses. For example "Battle Dress Uniform (BDU)" and then just using BDU from there.
That is what it suggested in AR25-50 after all

 

[AndersonsBiographer]

Just a thought regarding the use of acronyms/jargon/etc.
It may be worth spelling it out the first time it is used, followed by putting the acronym in parentheses. For example "Battle Dress Uniform (BDU)" and then just using BDU from there.
That is what it suggested in AR25-50 after all

That would be a good idea, yes.

 

[AndersonsBiographer]

Hmm...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jill_Metzger

"The Air Force Office of Special Investigations and other agencies conducted a major investigation, and February 3, 2012, Air Force investigators closed the case, concluding that the evidence was consistent with Metzger's account of being kidnapped. The investigation debunked online smears claiming that Metzger had voluntarily gone AWOL. Shopping center surveillance video showed at least two unidentified persons surveilled Metzger, with one of them following her, and that criminals may have intended to kidnap a different individual who resembled Metzger. The investigation found that Metzger escaped after sharpening a stick into a shank, stabbing one of the captors and locking him in a room, and fleeing to a nearby home, whose residents were able to contact the police. The Federal Bureau of Investigation also completed an investigation into Metzger's disappearance in 2009, but did not make the results public."

Here's an interesting story of something in the real world, coming very close to the scenario portrayed in JGJ.

https://web.archive.org/web/20210217093019/http://fugitives.army.mil/deserters.aspx

Here's a (defunct) list of all known US Army deserters, 1945-2021. Quite a few of these hint at some very strange stories.

 

[AndersonsBiographer]

And, apparently this story got "sent back" after 3 months

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I sure hope that a bot was responsible for this.

It's not political. Not "heavily," at least. It focuses on class dynamics, and while politics are a natural part of that, they are very far from the main element. It's pretty harsh on the "rube Wal-Mart Republican" and the "snob limousine liberal" alike, and if anything I think the story leans closer in sympathy to the former.

Shit, if you want to read something that is heavily political, go read Cedar Station. That's pretty much Late Capitalism as Erotica. And Wings Above Forgotten Worlds, when I finish, will be an attempt to birth the New Soviet Man in a space fantasy setting.

Be back to bitch about this some more later. Cooking smores with niece and nephew now.

 

[ElectricBlue]

And, apparently this story got "sent back" after 3 months

I sure hope that a bot was responsible for this.

It means someone reported it, and the site editor has bounced it.

If you come here and bitch about it not being political, by definition you'll be making this thread political, and it's likely to be locked or moved to the Politcal Board. Your best course of action is to resubmit the story, and lodge your argument with Laurel via a Note to the Editor. Argue your case that way - there's not much point arguing it here. Nobody here can do anything about it.

 

[lovecraft68]

Mind control is pure 100% rape.

Literotica claims they don't allow rape stories.

This story is the proof it does.

No disrespect meant to the author, you write what you write.

But the sheer hypocrisy and double talk of this site is both tiring and disgusting.

Just drop this lie of the content you are fine with publishing, get rid of that horrible joke "the victim has to like it" and just say "Hey, we accept NC stories."

Keep in mind the site that claims it won't allow full rape stories has a category called non consent. Can we stop the charade?

 

[AndersonsBiographer]

Mind control is pure 100% rape.

Literotica claims they don't allow rape stories.

This story is the proof it does.

No disrespect meant to the author, you write what you write.

But the sheer hypocrisy and double talk of this site is both tiring and disgusting.

That's not fair, LC! This is a work of pseudo-mind control, since the serum was a placebo. It's not really rape, it's Stockholm Syndrome and various other forms of psychological manipulation.

I mean, the one responsible is still quite clearly a sociopath, but...

 

[shewantsmore]

Happy Victory Day, comrades!

Finally wrote published something. Standard "kidnapped and impregnated" story, in the vein of works by @Baztrachian and Patrick Flanagan. Also includes my own personal interest in the theme of mind control, albeit in a more subdued manner than you'll see in other works, if I ever actually publish them.

I won't claim that it's any good, but I would like to imagine that it isn't terrible. I do think it's unique at least, insofar as it isn't a college student playing the role of the victim for once.

https://literotica.com/s/jumping-gi-jane

I don't know if everyone will be amused by the twist at the end, but it amused me and that's what really matters.

Discuss.

I enjoy mind control stories, im going to read the story now