JazzMan's Field Guide to Trolls.

JazzManJim

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For as long as Literotica has existed it has been home to a wide variety of people. A very narrow subset of people here, colloquially known as trolls seem to rejoice in spreading discord, chaos, ignorance, and other bad words in our fair home. The remedies for these Internet Vermin range from letting them burn themselves out to all-out flame wars complete with collateral damage and UN Peacekeeping Forces.

This is a guide to those strange and lonely beings known as trolls - their habits, likes and dislikes, and care and feeding instructions. I hope that by posting this, I can foster a greater understanding of the life that scuttles just underneath the polite society we all seem to enjoy.

A General Note or Three on Trolls - Many trolls will move from one classification to another capriciously, mostly based on directions beamed to them directly from the Mole Men who live at the Earth's Core. Trolls also can exhibit normal and even rational behavior at times, usually when conversing with their one or two lonely and likely insane admirers. That rarely lasts long however. The tin foil they employ to keep the evil Mind Control waves out of their super glue fume-shrunken crania doesn't last long. They'd know that if they read the fine print on the box.

It is relatively easy to spot a troll, even when they have employed their normal person camouflage. They talk freely and jovially with other trolls, speaking the sophisticated series of grunts, clicks, and whistles that comprises the native troll language. Their laughter when in a pack is easily distiniguishable. If you hear something that sounds like Beavis and Butthead watching a Metallica video, you've found a nest of trolls.

Trolls all crave the same thing: attention. Bad attention and good attention are equal in their books. No attention is enough, though. They will continue their behavior and suck up the attention like a sponge. The only true way to make a troll go away is to give them no attention at all. It's like pouring salt on the tail of a slug. They'll shrivel up and blow away.

The Parasite - This troll finds one (or perhaps two or three) particular people and follows them around, posting to their threads, over their comments, and generally doing their best to insult them at every turn. They thrive on driving certain individuals off the Boards and dance like little lame strippers when their objects of obsession don't post for two or three days. When the host poster returns, the Parasite begins their harangues anew. A secondary tactic the Parasite enjoys is to post threads about their Host in which they attempt to display their full arsenal of insults, jibes, and character assasinations. Unfortunately, the Parasite is notably narrow of focus and the insults only encompass one or two themes which they repeat ad infinitum until you wish you could dash their head against a concrete wall for no other reason than to jog the two working brain cells they have into contact this fostering an original and perhaps even insightful thought. Dealing with the Parasite is a simple matter. Put them on your Ignore List. That way they yammer into the dark and you may have the pleasant image of their growing angrier and angrier that you're not paying attention to them. Don't argue with them. You can't convince them to change. Parasites on Lit include Lancecastor, Hanns_Schmidt, KR1, and 4laterer.

The Flamer - This one is easy to spot. The second a conversation breaks out into a discussion or even, God Forbid, a debate, The Flamer arrives. Their backpack canister is loaded to the brim with ad hominem attacks and they do not hesitate to toss out the most outrageous statements boldly without consideration to either logic nor reality. Occasionally their bold statements are illogical enough to warp the space surrounding it and suck in any factual comment like a black hole sucking in stellar matter. It is easy to spot a post by a Flamer. It is redolent with self-importance, smug certainty and, like a hot air balloon, is utterly devoid of any substance. Flamers inevitably arrive on the scene of any political or religious conversation. Again, the Ignore List is a good way to deal with this sort of troll. Simply not reading their comments is also adviseable. Not only does not replying to them stunt their behavior, it saves you from an instant migraine headache. If you do engage in some sort of conversation with them on a topic, keep this phrase handy, because you will be using it at some point: "You are an idiot!". Flamers include 70/30 and Don K. Dyck.

The Asshole - This is, IMO, the most common sort of troll yet remains the most troublesome. The Asshole relishes discord. They cause trouble any way they can and may even accept some measure of blame for their troublemaking but they show no sorrow for the misery they cause and relish in wallowing in their various exploits weeks or months afterwards. The definitive statement from an Asshole is some variant of "Fuck You" which is perhaps the most sophisticated retort they know. Assholes enjoy causing a scene for its own sake and crave the attention it gives them. I believe that at some point Assholes were locked in a closet as babies and only taken out to be beaten with a yardstick. They need a hug very badly but can't pay someone to give them one. Of course, if you point this out to them, they'll laugh. Behind that laughter, though, lies rivers of tears. They are the bullies of the boards who have yet to realize that no one is afraid of them. If you have patience, you can drive an Asshole into a fine lather of fury by pointing out such things as their various lies and inconsistencies (and there will be dozens of them!), their personal hygiene, and their parentage. Of course none of this has any lasting effect. The Asshole may well be the true victim of a mental condition which makes them believe that they are the only true person in their world. They are opportunists and can be silenced completely by giving them no opportunity to rant. Asshole include Indigo.Rose, Naughty N Nice, MsTerious, and LordLucan74.

The Psychopath - Psychopaths are truly troubling creatures. They have no apparent jobs or lives away from the boards. Their posts can be found in vast numbers at any time of the day on any thread. There is no rhyme nor reason to what will drive them into a posting frenzy. They can exhibit the behaviors of any of the other types of trolls and I've even included a couple Psychopaths in those lists, but don't be fooled. These are superlative trolls who have plied their trade in other places at other times. They are veteran idiots of the highest order. Psychopaths often create multiple "personalities" just so they have someone to talk to. In extreme cases, they will even invent a significant other for themselves to inflate their own importance. Psychopaths are easy to spot. They hyperinflate their own importance and personal experiences, inventing jobs they do not have, skills they could never possess, and exploits that only Indiana Jones would appreciate. When called on their boasts they either revert to name-calling or just silence. You may applaud yourself. You did something that only rarely happens - shut up a Psychopath. The only real danger these trolls present is their lack of hesitancy to abide by the privacy rules of the Board. If they by some luck do happen across your personal information, they won't hesitate to post it to bolster their own perceived "street cred". Notable Psychopaths include Hanns_Schmidt and KR1.

The Salt Pourer - This is a specialized version of the Asshole and many Assholes are also Salt Pourers. These trolls show up in threads which involve asking advice for a genuine problem or venting. Upon their arrival they will do one of two things: 1) Dance with joy at the human misery they see, or 2) Offer an oversimplistic solution and get angry when the impossible advice isn't heeded. Frequently, the Salt Pourer hints at having more knowledge about the poster than they actually have in order to feed their own self-importance. It is very difficult to deal with the Salt Pourer because they thrive in the most emotionally-charged environmentand the emotional detachment required to handle them correctly is in much shorter supply. Voodoo dolls are useful here. A couple well-placed pins can send a Salt Pourer packing pretty quickly. If you don't have a Hougan handy, just take a deep breath. You'll feel better and the urge to kill will fade. Well, most of it will. Assholes and Psychopaths are often also Salt Pourers. Use the same names.

The Weirdo - These posters are not from this Earth. Trust me. Rather than being annoying or dangerous, their posts and threads are amusing and even entertaining. Weirdos pop up at random intervals and may even be creations of other established posters to lampoon other more serious trolls. Have fun with them. Weirdos include RainbowBrite and GnufiPoppets (though I like this guy really).

The Chickenshit - Only one nickname is ever used by a Chickenshit: Unregistered. These people hide behind a thin veil of anonymity and try to disguise their speech and spelling habits so they can snipe and jibe without anyone knowing who they are. Chickenshits are mostly registered postes who have opinions they don't have the courage to say under their own nickname. You'll find them posting in the most acute drama threads or on threads which involve drama-ridden posters (and you know who you are!). Some regular posters attract them like flies but, unlike the Parasites, Chickenshits lack even the basic courage to give themselves a name. Ignore them.

The Un-Troll - These posters are not specifically trolls. They are most often named by true trolls to justify their behavior. The trolls' argument says that we're all horrible hypocrites because we accept and even like the Un-Trolls even though they are the same as the troll. This is a terrible argument and most acutely shows the Troll's most basic need: acceptance. Un-Trolls are easily discovered because even though they may exhibit occasionally trollish behavior, they also show human decency, wit, humor, and an interest in more than insults and debasement. Though they insult at times, they are at heart, fully-realized people and will always act as such. Un-Trolls attract trolls like dead racoons attract spatula-bearing rednecks. Notable Un-Trolls include KillerMuffin, ProblemChild, and DCL.
 
Where's the part about them living under bridges JMJ? Are you blowing away all my childhood myths?

Ishmael
 
JazzManJim said:
A General Note or Three on Trolls - Many trolls will move from one classification to another capriciously


Don't you mean randomly? ;)




I *shudder* to think how long this took you to write out. But I enjoyed reading it and shall keep a copy at my side at all times for reference. :D






Just happy to see my nick wasn't mentioned *g*
 
JazzManJim said:
For as long as Literotica has existed it has been home to a wide variety of people. A very narrow subset of people here, colloquially known as trolls

We didn't have trolls back in the '90s. All the trolls are just a bunch of goddamn newbies.
 
This post alone with make the trolls go apeshit. You've spent all this time ranting about them and giving them identities, thus violating the cardinal rule of the internet....

Don't Feed The Trolls.
 
Jazzy you didn't list me.
I'm a troll. Stepping out of the closet, I admit it.............. I see a post by Lust Engine and I get hot. I need fresh panties all the time. My hand gets very tired. (wg)
I'm a Lust troll *giggling*


Trollin' LE
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Really JMJ good post! I hope all the true newbies to Lit pay attention.
 
Trolls make the world interesting. Without them, what would we have? Bloated social misfits complaining about how they get the short end of the stick in life and their escape of sadomasochistic rubber play?
 
PhxPlay4n6 said:
Trolls make the world interesting. Without them, what would we have? Bloated social misfits complaining about how they get the short end of the stick in life and their escape of sadomasochistic rubber play?

Everyone has a role to play. One man's troll can be a communities conscience.

There is always someone that has to step forward and tell the skunk that he stinks. Wouldn't need police otherwise.

Ishmael
 
Ishmael said:
There is always someone that has to step forward and tell the skunk that he stinks.

Some of the women on here have been told that before also.
 
JazzManJim said:
The Psychopath - Psychopaths are truly troubling creatures.
For me these are some of the easiest ones to recognize and ignore because they are often such fakes. They often build themselves up in some demented attempt appear more than what they obviously are - pathetic losers. They do this by:

1) Coming up with some kind of exotic present or past occupation. They claim they were/are a SEAL, in some kind of special forces (a commando, a Green Beret, a Ranger, a sniper, etc.), an ex-CIA agent (the James Bond 007 factor), astronaut (not very easy since most are known by name), movie star (again not that easy but some have gotten away with it). Again, this is all because their true occupation isn't anywhere near as interesting (flipping burgers, mail room boy, whatever), and their self-esteem is so low that they have to invent a fantasy life. All of this they think will make women admire them and men be in awe of them. Unfortunately they get carried away; they can't just claim to be a successful entrepeneur, they think they need something with a lot of wow factor. The more exotic their claim, the more pathetic they are.

How to detect them?

a) People who are really in these occupations don't go around advertising themselves - especially online.

b) They usually don't know shit about the occupation they have chosen. If they were smart enough to find and research the info needed, they wouldn't be so dumb as to claim it in the first place. What information they do share is usually very wrong and reflects their need to build themselves up - e.g., someone claiming to be a sniper is not going to claim to use a run of the mill sniper rifle, they are going to go out and find something big and/or exotic. I personally think the bigger the gun the more they are compensating for inadequacy in other departments, either size or skill if you know what I mean.

2) Coming up with something to pump up their apparent intelligence. They have an inflated IQ, belong to MENSA, they are some kind of expert in some field of scientific or technology. Again, they usually don't know shit about anything in the field. Sometimes, if they are half as smart as they claim to be, they chose a problem domain where they can look up answers on the internet, but usually their knowledge is not in depth, and they give the same answers over and over again even when proved wrong. They rely on the fact that the few people they play to don't know the field all that well.

3) Claiming they are wealthier than they are. This is the easiest of all their claims; as long as they are consistent and no one knows them in real life, their are very few ways to trip them up on this.

4) They claim they are older, younger, are more handsome, have more physical or sexual prowess, etc. than they really are or have. Again, kind of hard to trip them up on this except finding their real life info.

All of these claims follow a pattern - especially when used in conjunction with each other; they claim to be more than they are because they are pathetic losers.

There is an opposite variation; the psycho who claims they are poor, dying from cancer and a virgin. The hope is that women will feel sorry for them - which they usually are, at least until they find out or otherwise get smart to the fact that this person should have died 6 months ago, and that all they ever do is complain about their pathetic life.
 
Troll Lord Jim;

Your infinite and all-knowing capacity to sit, Jabba The Hutt like, naked in your chair alone at home reading child porn and jacking off to the group picture of your men's chorale when not pretending you were a real cop instead of a taxi dispatcher...gives you plenty of time to classify yourself....yet you have not, oh humble pie face.

What, oh great sucker of the seer, oh wondrous stainer of gayporn theatre seats, oh heavenly hemmoroid most high up your own arse.....

.....do you call yourself?

Your minions await thy decree, oh Troll Lord.

:D

Lance "The Parasite" Castor
Devouring Nubile Virgins Since 1975
 
hotNnasty said:
Jazzy you didn't list me.
I'm a troll. Stepping out of the closet, I admit it.............. I see a post by Lust Engine and I get hot. I need fresh panties all the time. My hand gets very tired. (wg)
I'm a Lust troll *giggling*

Trollin' LE
peep1.gif

As the trollee...far be it for me to complain here. I only wish all trolls were as wonderfully naughty & seductive as mine.:D :rose:
 
Geez . . . I'm Notorious . . .

There you go . . . that imminent poster of conservative values beloved by all right wing God fearing Republicans . . . has listed me as . . . "A Flamer" . . . But I don't have to worry because he has probably got me on Ignore . . . so he won't see this post . . . heheheh . . . Thank you for the Honour, JMJ . . . I must remember your personal preference of maintaining mundane intercourse . . . never let it be said that your lowest common denominator is exceeded on Lit . . . heheheh :)

Think you have been a bit hard on Lancecastor . . . he conducts a reasonable discussion . . . oh sorry, he HAS been known to hold an opinion . . . (broke the rules, Lance) . . .

While I don't always agree with 70/30, I respect their right to be wrong . . . on a free speech site . . .

And "UN-Troll" . . . MILES, DCL, PC, KM??? . . . I rarely if ever communicate with KM (since the earlier debacle) or DCL so it is probably best not to comment there . . . Miles and PC frequently exchange opinions and insults with myself and others . . . but they too have broken the rules . . . by having opinions on a free speech site . . .

Oh dear, JMJ, I think you have missed the most dangerous troll of all . . . THE SNAIL . Newbies can recognise these creatures by their generally slow movement from one area of mundane social intercourse to the next, showing a definite preference to put their nose into their own backside while remaining self-absorbed and introspective, but never sure of what is ahead of them because they do not look up to see . . . do you recognise anybody, JMJ?? :)

Geez, Ishmael and SIN . . . I have always thought that your numerous erudite posts would have made a fan list . . . Sorry . . . you just didn't make the list this time . . . maybe your opinions are politically correct for blinkered, one-eyed Republican Party supporters . . . :)
 
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Lancecastor said:
Troll Lord Jim;

Your infinite and all-knowing capacity to sit, Jabba The Hutt like, naked in your chair alone at home reading child porn and jacking off to the group picture of your men's chorale when not pretending you were a real cop instead of a taxi dispatcher...gives you plenty of time to classify yourself....yet you have not, oh humble pie face.

What, oh great sucker of the seer, oh wondrous stainer of gayporn theatre seats, oh heavenly hemmoroid most high up your own arse.....

.....do you call yourself?

Your minions await thy decree, oh Troll Lord.

:D

Lance "The Parasite" Castor
Devouring Nubile Virgins Since 1975

Lance:
For purposes of clarification, does this post mean you don't necessarily agree with JMJ?
 
Didn't you forget the All of the Above Troll? That would seem to fit a particular prepubescent Englishman whose name rhymes with Glands_Itch.
Alternatively, the Morphing Troll, who hops between the different categories.

whatever, good post...!
 
Reminds me of a new definition of the word TROLLEY I heard recently:

Trolley - an abundance of trolls.

:)
 
Re: Geez . . . I'm Notorious . . .

Don K Dyck said:
There you go . . . that imminent poster of conservative values beloved by all right wing God fearing Republicans . . . has listed me as . . . "A Flamer" . . . But I don't have to worry because he has probably got me on Ignore . . . so he won't see this post . . . heheheh . . . Thank you for the Honour, JMJ . . . I must remember your personal preference of maintaining mundane intercourse . . . never let it be said that your lowest common denominator is exceeded on Lit . . . heheheh :)

Think you have been a bit hard on Lancecastor . . . he conducts a reasonable discussion . . . oh sorry, he HAS been known to hold an opinion . . . (broke the rules, Lance) . . .

While I don't always agree with 70/30, I respect their right to be wrong . . . on a free speech site . . .

And "UN-Troll" . . . MILES, DCL, PC, KM??? . . . I rarely if ever communicate with KM (since the earlier debacle) or DCL so it is probably best not to comment there . . . Miles and PC frequently exchange opinions and insults with myself and others . . . but they too have broken the rules . . . by having opinions on a free speech site . . .

Oh dear, JMJ, I think you have missed the most dangerous troll of all . . . THE SNAIL . Newbies can recognise these creatures by their generally slow movement from one area of mundane social intercourse to the next, showing a definite preference to put their nose into their own backside while remaining self-absorbed and introspective, but never sure of what is ahead of them because they do not look up to see . . . do you recognise anybody, JMJ?? :)

Geez, Ishmael and SIN . . . I have always thought that your numerous erudite posts would have made a fan list . . . Sorry . . . you just didn't make the list this time . . . maybe your opinions are politically correct for blinkered, one-eyed Republican Party supporters . . . :)


...typical Flamer response.
 
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