I've been having dreams...

Stiffy Says... said:
Hopefully, that helped clarify things and did not just muddle up the compliment based upon observations here on Lit that I was trying to send to you.

Stiffy...

Yep, it did :) Thanks, Stiffy. I was just confused by the wording or was reading it wrong or something... thanks for clarifying... and then some :)
 
Hi Eepy. Just thought I'd pop in and see how you're doing. How's the neighborhood looking?
 
CJontherocks said:
Hi Eepy. Just thought I'd pop in and see how you're doing. How's the neighborhood looking?

Well, I'm still looking for subleasers and a new job. And I'm sick and tired of fucking for the sake of fucking, god damn it! (Obviously, my weekend did not go all that well. I did get to see the Nutcracker ballet Saturday evening, though, which was fantastic.)

How're you?
 
eepy said:
Well, I'm still looking for subleasers and a new job. And I'm sick and tired of fucking for the sake of fucking, god damn it! (Obviously, my weekend did not go all that well. I did get to see the Nutcracker ballet Saturday evening, though, which was fantastic.)

How're you?

Frankly, I'd settle for a mercy fuck from the ugly friend right about now. :rolleyes:

Other than that, I'm doing pretty good. :D
 
CJontherocks said:
Frankly, I'd settle for a mercy fuck from the ugly friend right about now. :rolleyes:

Other than that, I'm doing pretty good. :D

Aw, CJ, you'll be fine. Cheap sex is sooooo not worth it -- not with the price you pay later with guilt, worry, depression, etc. Hang in there :)
 
eepy said:
Aw, CJ, you'll be fine. Cheap sex is sooooo not worth it -- not with the price you pay later with guilt, worry, depression, etc. Hang in there :)

No guilt... no worries... I'd just like a little appetizer while I'm waiting. Something to keep me coming back to the table, ya know?

Do men even feel those things after cheap sex? I'm not sure if we're allowed to. Maybe worry... like when you discover the condom on the floor the next day and it's broken. Yikes! :devil:
 
CJontherocks said:
Do men even feel those things after cheap sex?

Do they feel anything ever?? That's what I'd like to know.
 
CJontherocks said:
Ouch. I felt that. :(

Aw. I'm sorry CJ -- I didn't mean that personally toward you. You're probably one of the few nice, decent guys. :kiss:

G'night.
 
I dunno...after sex, it if is just for the sake of getting off, I feel horrible guilt, shame and self loathing. Ther eis also tons of fear - what if she got pregnant, what if I caught something, what if...what if...

It is why I tend to have some periods of drought in my dating life. So cjon, I think guys do feel stuff after, we are allowed.

Maybe I am just a weird guy.
 
princejonny said:

Thanks for that, princejonny. We've had different experiences, of course, but I could definitely relate to a lot of what you said, especially the parts I've quoted below (emphasis mine)...

"Every time I had sex, I realized I was never going to see this person again and that they too would never...could never, care about me."

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"In your lifetime, you may only meet two people who you could tell everything that has ever happened to you and everything you've ever done, and still have them like you.

"I have no bad feelings toward Jess. In the beginning she told me she was no good for me, and I didn't listen. But when I said I wasn't good enough for her, she said I was, and I listened...so in the end, the fault is mine for being stupid enough to try. I knew better, but I was in love with the idea of being in love with her, and that is the only love I've ever known."

*********************

"Is it worth it?

"Is all this bullshit we go through day in and day out for some dreamt-up super Shangri-LA called "LOVE" really worth it?

"I don't think so. Driver stop the car...I wanna get out

"I am now happy in the hatred of my own soul. I am accepting in the fact that no one can ever...will ever love me.

"I am anti-love. Just accept me as I am, and I promise not to care that you do not care.

"And beyond that, I don't think I could ever say "I love you," to someone and mean it.

"In order for me to mean it, I would have to know beyond the shadow of a doubt that they loved me, and I can't...I won't ever believe that again."
 
Stiffy Says... said:
Maybe I am just a weird guy.

It appears so... but hopefully I've just been looking in the wrong places.
 
Maybe not the wrong places...

eepy,

I think it is possible that you are looking in the wrong places, but it could be that you are still in the process of identifying who you are deep down and who you want, what you want, etc. Till those questions are answered, it is hard to figure out how to find someone suitable for you.

I kind of look at it like a numbers game, the only way to rationalize it to myself that I have still obviously not found "the one". If there is one person out there who is perfect for you, then maybe it takes meeting alot of people to increase the odds.

Dunno, just a guy trying to muddle his way through the world.

Stiffy...:rose:
 
eepy said:

I know this sounds like a really stupid question for a sexually-experienced 22-year-old woman to ask, but could I be bisexual? How can I know for sure -- would I need to make the dreams become reality? It's something I should just know, right?

Its not a stupid question. The day you finally know what all you have been and you are going to be is the day you die.

Sorry for sounding gloomy but we do change all the time. We discover new things inside ourselves and adapt from outside.

Personally I had my life in perfectly order. I was straight, going to get Master degree, a house, a husband, a dog etc. Then I suddenly realized that it wasnt really what I wanted. It was what the enviroment wanted me to get. I have always found girls attractive but I thought it was common for straight girls too. I never really stopped to think it more. Then (I was.. hmm.. 20 or 21) I began to really think about girls that way. It has something to do with my personality traits but it took me less than a year from that to be first time with a girl. Rest is history I guess :p

So what Im actually trying to say with my confusing babbling: you are never too old to discover new things in yourself.

Do you need to try to be sure? I dont think so. It depends how you define bisexuality. Its all decided with what you want to do - not what you actually have experienced.

Im not going to suggest you to try or not to try. I would like you to forget labels like "hetero" or "bi". Does it really matter? Have the sex you want. Have relationships with persons you fall in love with. There's no use in trying to particularly choose some orientation. Just follow your heart but keep your brains with. After couple years you are more sure what you like and what you dont :)
 
eepy said:
Thanks for that, princejonny. We've had different experiences, of course, but I could definitely relate to a lot of what you said, especially the parts I've quoted below (emphasis mine)...

"Every time I had sex, I realized I was never going to see this person again and that they too would never...could never, care about me."

*******************

"In your lifetime, you may only meet two people who you could tell everything that has ever happened to you and everything you've ever done, and still have them like you.

"I have no bad feelings toward Jess. In the beginning she told me she was no good for me, and I didn't listen. But when I said I wasn't good enough for her, she said I was, and I listened...so in the end, the fault is mine for being stupid enough to try. I knew better, but I was in love with the idea of being in love with her, and that is the only love I've ever known."

*********************

"Is it worth it?

"Is all this bullshit we go through day in and day out for some dreamt-up super Shangri-LA called "LOVE" really worth it?

"I don't think so. Driver stop the car...I wanna get out

"I am now happy in the hatred of my own soul. I am accepting in the fact that no one can ever...will ever love me.

"I am anti-love. Just accept me as I am, and I promise not to care that you do not care.

"And beyond that, I don't think I could ever say "I love you," to someone and mean it.

"In order for me to mean it, I would have to know beyond the shadow of a doubt that they loved me, and I can't...I won't ever believe that again."


thank you for reading it and i'm sorry you've felt those feelings too. they were rough experiences for me, but i think made me a better more loving person in the long run

:rose:, a hug, and a :kiss: for you eepy

always,

pj
 
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rakastuja said:
Im not going to suggest you to try or not to try. I would like you to forget labels like "hetero" or "bi". Does it really matter? Have the sex you want. Have relationships with persons you fall in love with. There's no use in trying to particularly choose some orientation. Just follow your heart but keep your brains with. After couple years you are more sure what you like and what you dont :)

I agree with this. I have accepted that I am bisexual because it was, in the end (even though this is not really the end), how the conventional wisdom defines my sexuality. And it was, for me, a comforting feeling to accept it. But I still like the idea that I can be just plain "sexual." No hangups about this or that... no preconceived notions of how I'm supposed to feel or act. Acceptance of the term "bi" to define my sexuality merely broke down some barriers... it's not just about sex. It's about the... well, I don't really know what it's about yet. But I'm ready to find out, and I wasn't before.

Was that something of a ramble?
 
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CJontherocks said:


Was that something of a ramble?

No clue...I was too distracted by the new AV to read CJ! :p
 
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SweetErika said:
No clue...I was too distracted by the new AV to read CJ! :p

:D I thought you only liked upper torso stuff?

(BTW, I do love the new bra... even though I picked the lavender one.)
 
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CJontherocks said:
:D I thought you only liked upper torso stuff?

(BTW, I do love the new bra... even though I picked the lavender one.)

I do like the torso pics...very aesthetically appealing. It's a nice ass too though!

I would have picked another AV, but people seem to be pleased (or driven crazy) by this one, so I'll keep it for awhile. You'll see your choice someday. :D
 
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Hope you all are doing well, and that what has been troubling you is not now. This thread is too nice and supportive to let it go.

Happy holidays!
 
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