It Isn't "Porn"

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

SR71plt, are you this rude and confrontational to people in person? Or is it just an internet thing for you?

You can have disagreements with people without calling them stupid.

I GOTTA AGREE WITH PILOT.

Most of the LIT authors and posters are affirmative action scholars with 98 pound weakling SAT scores.

 

[Firebrain]

I tell people I write "porn". I like the looks I get. I don't think porn has to be bad or trashy, though.

Sometimes, we tend to call something "porn" when we actually want to say "awful writing about sex," and that's a bit of hypocritical avoidance of the issue, I think. "Mine's better than this -- therefore it must be erotica." (For what it's worth, I tend to think of erotica as having more of a focus on character emotions in an eloquent fashion. None of the soap-style drama that erotic romance has).

I will admit that when I began to share my writing -- when I was younger -- I was looking for praise. I found it hard to deal with criticism. These days, I find myself actively seeking out criticism; possibly because I've become better at noticing flaws in my own stuff.

Bashful -- lol...glad I could be of service. Totally agree that porn can have a plot, and probably should have. Erotica, if anything, seems to lend itself better to single scenarios.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Writers have a problem with criticism when they know too little about the writing craft to distinguish bonafide problems from insults.

Most want a pat on the back and the plastic CORKY THATCHER TROPHY FOR LITERARY MERIT.

 

[Verdad]

Erotica v. Porn

This is a clip from the BBC show "Coupling," in which a guy, Steve, is invited by his girlfriend, Susan, to explain the difference between erotica and porn. Susan stumbled across a movie called "Lesbian Spank Inferno," which she labeled porn and Steve defended as erotica.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKGK2fplV_w

Haha, thanks.

 

[Stella_Omega]

SR71plt, are you this rude and confrontational to people in person? Or is it just an internet thing for you?

You can have disagreements with people without calling them stupid.

By the end of your third conversation with Box you'll be calling him stupid too-- just wait.

 

[lovecraft68]

I GOTTA AGREE WITH PILOT.

Most of the LIT authors and posters are affirmative action scholars with 98 pound weakling SAT scores.

Of course you agree with Pilot. don't all you "fellas" stick together.
why don't you post your sat scores JB? oh that's right you don't post anything.
and when you do you probably google all the big words and references you use to make yourself look brighter than the 40 watt bulb you are.

 

[Stella_Omega]

Of course you agree with Pilot. don't all you "fellas" stick together.
why don't you post your sat scores JB? oh that's right you don't post anything.
and when you do you probably google all the big words and references you use to make yourself look brighter than the 40 watt bulb you are.

Except that isn't what Pilot said in any way.
Jimmy put words into SR71plt's mouth -- as he always does-- and you bought it-- and you should know better, he's done it to you before.

 

[Handley_Page]

Now "Coupling" is a TV series I'd pay satellite for. Pity it's not available in the US. He's right, you know. That is what being a bloke is all about.

The DVD sets are available from Amazon.
Whether it will run on your player is another matter.

 

[lovecraft68]

Except that isn't what Pilot said in any way.
Jimmy put words into SR71plt's mouth -- as he always does-- and you bought it-- and you should know better, he's done it to you before.

Really doesn't matter to me if SR called anyone stupid he isn't the person I love to hate and honestly at least he has some credentials to back his talk up. It's the ever ignorant fool who has done nothing yet says everything that I enjoy baiting. To me in order to have a vaild opinion on a matter you shoould have some experience on the subject meaning JBJ should not be allowed in an "author's forum".

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Of course you agree with Pilot. don't all you "fellas" stick together.
why don't you post your sat scores JB? oh that's right you don't post anything.
and when you do you probably google all the big words and references you use to make yourself look brighter than the 40 watt bulb you are.

The difference tween you and me is, I can do marvels with a 40 watt bulb, and you cant find the ON/off switch for your laser search light.

Per usual youre full of #2; I almost never use BIG words.

Name one person who wants to read my stuff. You cant. They dont exist.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Really doesn't matter to me if SR called anyone stupid he isn't the person I love to hate and honestly at least he has some credentials to back his talk up. It's the ever ignorant fool who has done nothing yet says everything that I enjoy baiting. To me in order to have a vaild opinion on a matter you shoould have some experience on the subject meaning JBJ should not be allowed in an "author's forum".

Ha! What do you know! All you know for sure is youve never read anything I wrote.

Here's a sample from my porn tale READ ME A STORY.

'Smokers loitering around the square, seeing the rain coming forward in a lateral, gray wall, like a regiment of rebel soldiers in a skirmish line, nigger-lipped or daintily puffed final drags from their smokes, then flipped them to the pavement. One smoker crushed and twisted her smoldering cigarette with her high-heel, then fled inside.

Thunder rumbled close by, lightning flashed too far away to hear, and the rain fell heavy and thick. Runoff soon covered the streets to the tops of the curbs. Orange street lamps awoke in the darkness and glowed soberly. Blinking traffic lights rocked and swayed in the wind. The Jollyville City Bus stopped at the courthouse across from the convention center; a woman with soggy, matted hair stepped off, then struggled to open and control her umbrella in the wind. The wind lifted the woman’s dress to the top of her legs and pressed the wet fabric tightly against her thighs and hips.'

 

[sr71plt]

SR71plt, are you this rude and confrontational to people in person? Or is it just an internet thing for you?

You can have disagreements with people without calling them stupid.

Box is exasperatingly stupid on almost any topic except porn writing. As Stella posts later on this thread, by the third exchange, it's time to just say "Oh, gawd" and walk away. If you don't like me doing that, tough. I'll take rude over "pleasant pablum" and stupid any day.

 

[Stella_Omega]

Ha! What do you know! All you know for sure is youve never read anything I wrote.

I'm sure you're about to appear above the literary horizon like a comet, though.

Any day now.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wq2e7DPhyHg

 

[PoppingTom]

BALDERDASH

If it wasnt porn you'd all use your real names instead of alts.

Hey, that IS my real name, bitch!

 

[Jake Marlow]

I like "literary porn." I'm going to adopt that. That's how I fell about what I write too. People around here who get offended if people call their work porn instead of erotica and try to draw a distinction are silly. The only distinction is pretension. I only ever break out the erotica label if I am telling someone what I do and I'm trying to soften the blow, so to speak.

In my experience, people are looking for positive comments. Most people are not even looking for helpful, constructive criticism. Personally, I like constructive criticism. The only negative feedback that bugs me is when it's because someone hates the "Loving Wives" category in general. Tell me you don't like my writing, fine. Don't hate the work because you hate the genre, or the topic.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

I'm sure you're about to appear above the literary horizon like a comet, though.

Any day now.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wq2e7DPhyHg

THAT OR I'M GOING FISHING.

 

[Stella_Omega]

That or I'm going fishing.

Don't count 'em before you've caught 'em.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Except that isn't what Pilot said in any way.
Jimmy put words into SR71plt's mouth -- as he always does-- and you bought it-- and you should know better, he's done it to you before.

If I put words in PILOTs mouth its a definite improvement and change from his usual hot protein fare.

 

[Tio_Narratore]

Ha! What do you know! All you know for sure is youve never read anything I wrote.

Here's a sample from my porn tale READ ME A STORY.

'Smokers loitering around the square, seeing the rain coming forward in a lateral, gray wall, like a regiment of rebel soldiers in a skirmish line, nigger-lipped or daintily puffed final drags from their smokes, then flipped them to the pavement. One smoker crushed and twisted her smoldering cigarette with her high-heel, then fled inside.

Thunder rumbled close by, lightning flashed too far away to hear, and the rain fell heavy and thick. Runoff soon covered the streets to the tops of the curbs. Orange street lamps awoke in the darkness and glowed soberly. Blinking traffic lights rocked and swayed in the wind. The Jollyville City Bus stopped at the courthouse across from the convention center; a woman with soggy, matted hair stepped off, then struggled to open and control her umbrella in the wind. The wind lifted the woman’s dress to the top of her legs and pressed the wet fabric tightly against her thighs and hips.'

"Get rid of the adjectives, and it might not be a piece of crap." - JBJ

 

[Stella_Omega]

"Get rid of the adjectives, and it might not be a piece of crap." - JBJ

If you haven't grabbed your readers by the nuts in the first paragraph, you've lost them" - JBJ

What the hell is that, jimmy, some kid's Creative Writing homework you stole?

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

If you haven't grabbed your readers by the nuts in the first paragraph, you've lost them" - JBJ

What the hell is that, jimmy, some kid's Creative Writing homework you stole?

Is this my cue to whine, 'YOURE A TROLL! I'M AN ARTISTE!" ?

hA! You couldnt write so well with Shakespeare dictating it to you! I invented imagery.

In the news today the San Francisco Fire Department went to a porn shop where a patron was on fire. (for real) I suspect the man read one of my tales and spontaneously combusted. Its likely..

http://www.news.com.au/breaking-new...ncisco-porn-shop/story-e6frfku0-1226039438122

 

[Selena_Kitt]

Isn't "erotica" that which heightens my sensuality in connection with sublime moments of sexual arousal while "porn" is that which evokes base carnal desires in other people?

Exactly correct. The best definitions I've seen!

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

You dont get out much. Sensuality is nuthin more than another way of saying perception or awareness. The other part of it is a state of arousal where one is locked and loaded with a definite target.

 

[estragon]

Expeliarmus

You dont get out much. Sensuality is nuthin more than another way of saying perception or awareness. The other part of it is a state of arousal where one is locked and loaded with a definite target.

Or, in the immortal words of King Solomon "If a wise man has an argument with a fool, the fool only rages and laughs, and there is no quiet." *brandishes wand in general direction of Jerusalem*

 

[Tio_Narratore]

You dont get out much. Sensuality is nuthin more than another way of saying perception or awareness. The other part of it is a state of arousal where one is locked and loaded with a definite target.

Thank you ever so much, Mr. Johnson; it's refreshing to read the rants of someone who clearly lacks the attention span needed to read and understand a single sentence. You're even more fun when you get confused by whole paragraphs!