Is there life out there?
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KillerMuffin
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Sure, they found something on mars. Can't remember if it was actually a single cellular organism or just the protien chains that could potentially be life. You never know, those folks at NASA sniff rocket fuel.
KillerMuffin
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ACtually, if you think about it, Ambro and Sparky are proof that non-earthling life exists.
Celestiale
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Yes...absolutely I believe there is life out there, we're just not evolved enough to find out yet.
The human race has a loooooong way to go.
The human race has a loooooong way to go.
MysteryJKR
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there has to be. no question. ive been an alien freak since i was a wee lad. lol.
i used to rent alien books in the library when i was little. i would read em over and over during the day but at night they got me so scared i used to cover up under the blankets and even put the pillow over my face to try and look like the bed wasnt being slept in. lol i didnt really think about the form of my body in the sheets but it still worked. i never got taken away by em. hehe.
but back on the sub. hehe. There HAS to be life out there. What are the chances that out of the endless universe, filled with millions upon millions of galaxies and systems that we are the one and only planet with living beings on it.
Thats just the craziest thing you can think Id say.
i used to rent alien books in the library when i was little. i would read em over and over during the day but at night they got me so scared i used to cover up under the blankets and even put the pillow over my face to try and look like the bed wasnt being slept in. lol i didnt really think about the form of my body in the sheets but it still worked. i never got taken away by em. hehe.
but back on the sub. hehe. There HAS to be life out there. What are the chances that out of the endless universe, filled with millions upon millions of galaxies and systems that we are the one and only planet with living beings on it.
Thats just the craziest thing you can think Id say.
Angelus
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Oh yeah, there is life out there.
It is a damn big galaxy that we live in and a lot of those stars have to have planets that can have life on them. If you don't think that there is life out there then you surely have to be an arrogant sob and need a kick up the ass.
Whoops, sorry about that rant there.
It is a damn big galaxy that we live in and a lot of those stars have to have planets that can have life on them. If you don't think that there is life out there then you surely have to be an arrogant sob and need a kick up the ass.
Whoops, sorry about that rant there.
Valdimer
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Then why all the disinformation, why all the talk that we are the only soul lifeforms on the known universe? I dont agree with it myself, Ive been an ameteur ufoligist for the longest time, but still, it does leave its doubts, should we trust the goverment, or just find out for ourselves? Now, im not trying to sound like todd here, but think about it, why would the goverment continually try and remake thier statement, time after time?, and prevent the release of information due to the freedom of information act?..........
MinkSoul
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KillerMuffin said:
actualy they found something on a meteorite that "suggests the possibility" of anchient life on Mars.
if you want the long version, go here...
http://cass.jsc.nasa.gov/lpi/meteorites/alhnpap.html
here's a picture of what they saw with a scanning electron micriscope...
cymbidia
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Possibility of life on Europa
At the moment, the good money for finding actual off-Earth life in our solar system is on one of the Jovian moons, Europa.
Slightly smaller than our own moon, Europa is the 2nd major satellite of Jupiter. The Voyager spacecraft showed us lines on the surface of the moon that look a lot like cracks in the ice that are crisscrossing the surface on a global scale. High-resolution images of the surface taken by the Galileo spacecraft have shown a world with a complex surface covered in icy domes and other features a lot like the ice rafts found in the far northern oceans of the Earth.
The young age of Europa's surface, determined by the sparsity of impact craters, indicates that Europa is either currently a geologically active world, or has been in the relatively recent past. This youthful surface suggests that an ocean of liquid water may exist below the outside shell of frozen ice. If so, Europa fulfills one of the major requirements for our kind of carbon-based life: access to liquid water.
Below a 100 to 150 km layer of water (ice, and possibly ocean), Europa is a rocky moon. Water in contact with rock can provide the other ingredients essential to life (C, N, and P, for example), especially if the rocky part of the moon is volcanically active, as it would have been early in the history of the solar system.
Even if an ocean no longer exists on Europa, it did in the past. Because of the abundance of water and the likelihood of past volcanism, Europa is considered by many scientists today to be an even better candidate for life than Mars.
In 1996, NASA announced that evidence for ancient bacterial life on Mars had been found in a martian meteorite discovered in Antarctica. However, the evidence for past life on Mars from that martian meteorite was finally accepted as inconclusive by almost everyone in science.MinkSoul said:
At the moment, the good money for finding actual off-Earth life in our solar system is on one of the Jovian moons, Europa.
Slightly smaller than our own moon, Europa is the 2nd major satellite of Jupiter. The Voyager spacecraft showed us lines on the surface of the moon that look a lot like cracks in the ice that are crisscrossing the surface on a global scale. High-resolution images of the surface taken by the Galileo spacecraft have shown a world with a complex surface covered in icy domes and other features a lot like the ice rafts found in the far northern oceans of the Earth.
The young age of Europa's surface, determined by the sparsity of impact craters, indicates that Europa is either currently a geologically active world, or has been in the relatively recent past. This youthful surface suggests that an ocean of liquid water may exist below the outside shell of frozen ice. If so, Europa fulfills one of the major requirements for our kind of carbon-based life: access to liquid water.
Below a 100 to 150 km layer of water (ice, and possibly ocean), Europa is a rocky moon. Water in contact with rock can provide the other ingredients essential to life (C, N, and P, for example), especially if the rocky part of the moon is volcanically active, as it would have been early in the history of the solar system.
Even if an ocean no longer exists on Europa, it did in the past. Because of the abundance of water and the likelihood of past volcanism, Europa is considered by many scientists today to be an even better candidate for life than Mars.
Valdimer
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Wow, I didnt know that. But still, what about the ever so popular sun, when it comes to life? Dont we need that too? The jupiter moon seems a little to far away to receive the amount of sunlight it would need to help support life............
WriterDom
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Jimmy Carter
From "Above Top Secret" (book): During his election campaign of 1976 he told the following to reporters: It was the darndest thing I've ever seen. It was big, it was very bright, it changed colors and it was about the size of the moon.. We watched it for ten minutes, but none of us could figure out what it was. One thing's for sure, I'll never make fun of people who say they've seen unidentified objects in the sky. If I become President, I'll make every piece of information this country has about UFO sightings available to the public and the scientists.
He never did, did he?
From "Above Top Secret" (book): During his election campaign of 1976 he told the following to reporters: It was the darndest thing I've ever seen. It was big, it was very bright, it changed colors and it was about the size of the moon.. We watched it for ten minutes, but none of us could figure out what it was. One thing's for sure, I'll never make fun of people who say they've seen unidentified objects in the sky. If I become President, I'll make every piece of information this country has about UFO sightings available to the public and the scientists.
He never did, did he?
cymbidia
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If there is life on Europa, it will have to have evolved inside an ice covered ocean and would undoubtedly cluster around hot springs in the ocean floor. It might well resemble the kinds of life forms that are known to exist under similar conditions on Earth.Valdimer_79 said:
There are a number of life forms on Earth that don't require the sun at all for their life processes. This kind of life is called anaerobic and includes the complex ecosystems of plants and animals that surround the deep-sea vents at plate boundaries around the world. Living microorganisms have also been found alive and flourishing in acidic hot springs, buried under thick layers of ancient permafrost, and even on the inside of volcanic rocks.
Maybe the most amazing survivor of extreme living conditions is the common bacteria Streptococus mitis. In 1967 a small colony of these bacteria traveled to the moon aboard Surveyor 3, inside the spacecraft's TV camera. Three years later when Apollo 12 astronauts returned the camera to Earth, scientists were astonished to find that the bacteria were viable.
Even without all the things we require for our kind of life, other life will fill available niches and live and reproduce and survive. Life will find a way.
It's inconceivable that we're alone in the solar system, not to mention the galaxy, our galactic local group, and universe. It's too big a place out there, and life is too adaptable and wildly determined to... live.
