Is there a fine art to flaming?

[Mia62]

I give RamblingRose credit for this thread cause I am pretty sure I got flamed by her in her passive-aggressive thread but the flame effect was lost on me cause I didn't understand it. Thank god, a dear impartial pal on IMs explained to me what it was supposed to mean.

The above situation coincidentally happened on That 70s Show last night when Donna received a "Grandma flame" but didn't get it.

I have also noticed other "established" flamers criticize the way that someone else attempts to flame.

So my questions are...is there a fine art to flaming? does a flame lose any of its effect if it goes misunderstood by the intended victim? How do you decide what is a good flame and what isn't? Are personally directed ones better than generic ones (ie the latest Killswitch & co. ones)? How does one get better at flaming? Should one bother to get better?

 

[glamorilla]

every now and then i burst into flames and i just have to dance.

 

[P. B. Walker]

It's a skill that few master. You can always tell a good flamer, as well as a lame one. There are also a few rules to follow in order to be a good flamer.

PBW

 

[JazzManJim]

Yep, there is an art to the flame. The wittier, the better. Crass and obvious insults get lower points. Elegant, or image-laden comments earn higher points.

Highest marks come for a flame where the target doesn't even understand the insult, but one or more other people do. That means that you not only insulted the person, but did so in a way that took advantage of their ignorance.

 

[sterlingclay]

Yeah, what DJJazzyJim said

 

[Mia62]

Highest marks come for a flame where the target doesn't even understand the insult, but one or more other people do. That means that you not only insulted the person, but did so in a way that took advantage of their ignorance.

Ok, but why is this? Aren't you trying to make the person feel bad? How can they feel bad if they don't get it??

PBW...share some of those rules with me.

glam...i would just like to roast marshmallows over your flames.

 

[P. B. Walker]

The Twelve Commandments to Good Flaming


Enjoy Mia.

 

[Rambling Rose]

Look! I'm beneath P.B. Walker! There's a first time for everything.

 

[Rambling Rose]

Ok, but why is this? Aren't you trying to make the person feel bad? How can they feel bad if they don't get it??

It's a matter of one-upmanship. The fact that you don't my get my retort renders your flaming volley nearly obsolete.

You're responsible for your own feelings on this. Whether you feel hurt, angry, vengeful, embarrassed or amused is your business.

(and btw, that same 'impartial' pal only gave you her interpretation)

 

[sterlingclay]

The Twelve Commandments to Good Flaming


Enjoy Mia.

Lance write this?





RR is a kick ass flamer. All bow to Ronald Reagan

 

[Calamity Jane]

Ok, but why is this? Aren't you trying to make the person feel bad? How can they feel bad if they don't get it??

Using your example from That 70's Show. It was funny when the two snotty chicas were arguing in the diner and neither of them were 'getting' the insults.

Look at it this way. If I insult you and you don't get it, but Jazzman and Rose do... then it's twice as funny because not only did I get a good jab in, but we now know that you're too big of a dumbass to get it. It's like getting a cherry on your sundae when you were only expecting hot fudge.

 

[sterlingclay]

Remember the fresh Prince of Belair? That was the supreme flamer show.

 

[Guest]

The most fascinating thread ever.

 

[Rambling Rose]

I have to add that I'm never really 'trying to make you feel bad', Mia. In order to try to hurt someone you have to care about their feelings.

I just enjoy a battle of wits now and again. You win some, you lose some.

 

[sterlingclay]

I have to add that I'm never really 'trying to make you feel bad', Mia. In order to try to hurt someone you have to care about their feelings.

I just enjoy a battle of wits now and again. You win some, you lose some.

LMAO

 

[Sheaf_Beast]

Here is a good link also.

http://www.advicemeant.com/flame/

 

[Guest]

I have to add that I'm never really 'trying to make you feel bad', Mia. In order to try to hurt someone you have to care about their feelings.

That's clever. I'm going to top myself.

You deal with it.

 

[Starfish]

A good fish flame:

I wish you would go fuck yourself with a cold yellow toilet plunger, thick end first. Make it the one it Problem Child's bathroom. There is sure to be a dingle turd on it for your pleasure.

In the process, why not load a gun, any kind, full of bullets and aim it at your moronic, peon head, and I know this is a lot for you to have to remember, but then all you have to do is pull the trigger. The key is to fill it with bullets, so there is no chance you'll not fill your head with lead.

It took nothing for me to spew this. There is no art to this.

 

[Guest]

I'm dead.

No more feedback for you.

 

[Starfish]

Feedback? That's what you call your stalking and harassing me everywhere I go?

 

[A Desert Rose]

You have to care in order to flame, which is quite different from a spirited argument or debate.

There is no one here I care enough about to flame and if there are people here who care enough to flame me, then I see that as complimentary.

Flaming is not lost on me. I know when it's being done but I choose to not get into the competition of it. I will almost always walk away. I have no driving need to prove to people here that I am wittier or smarter than the next guy. I guess others do have that need.

There is however, one week out of every month when I find it real hard to back off. LOL

 

[glamorilla]

A good fish flame:

I wish you would go fuck yourself with a cold yellow toilet plunger, thick end first. Make it the one it Problem Child's bathroom. There is sure to be a dingle turd on it for your pleasure.

In the process, why not load a gun, any kind, full of bullets and aim it at your moronic, peon head, and I know this is a lot for you to have to remember, but then all you have to do is pull the trigger. The key is to fill it with bullets, so there is no chance you'll not fill your head with lead.

It took nothing for me to spew this. There is no art to this.

while creative i have to downpoint this for use of excessive wording.

the key is to cut right to the point and provide as much information as you can with as few words as possible.

ergo:

i thought you'd be happier with that stick up your ass and

no...first you put the barrel in your mouth,*then* you pull the trigger.

 

[Problem Child]

while creative i have to downpoint this for use of excessive wording.

the key is to cut right to the point and provide as much information as you can with as few words as possible.

ergo:

i thought you'd be happier with that stick up your ass and

no...first you put the barrel in your mouth,*then* you pull the trigger.

glam is the prince of succinct. I strive to emulate him in that respect.

 

[glamorilla]

mwah~ha~ha!

 

[bknight2602]

The Twelve Commandments to Good Flaming


Enjoy Mia.

LMAO Thanks for the link.