Is Sex Rocket Science?

[NOIRTRASH]

http://mic.com/articles/113334/these-are-the-new-orgasm-statistics-every-woman-should-see

I don't buy the sex is rocket science (getting up and off by the clock) theory. But I believe orgasm happens when appetite, desire, and energy are enough.

 

[Ewobbit]

Depends.

When I was young and dumb, I was all kinds of impressed with Masters and Johnson and all the rest and convinced that I had to pull a rabbit out of my ass each and every time I laid with a woman. And, yeah. Some of that stuff I needed advanced calculus to work out and a crap load of physical endurance to pull off.

These days, I figure as long as we're both relaxed and having fun enjoying each other, the orgasm is just the cherry on top.

 

[NOIRTRASH]

Depends.

When I was young and dumb, I was all kinds of impressed with Masters and Johnson and all the rest and convinced that I had to pull a rabbit out of my ass each and every time I laid with a woman. And, yeah. Some of that stuff I needed advanced calculus to work out and a crap load of physical endurance to pull off.

These days, I figure as long as we're both relaxed and having fun enjoying each other, the orgasm is just the cherry on top.

I get ugly, unwashed boors, I don't get women beyond the joys of normal copulation with average guys.

 

[lovecraft68]

Nope, sex is the most natural primal act there is we instinctively know how to do it.

Having said that, going by the endless discussions about it here, people do make it far more complicated than it is.

 

[SomeoneFamiliar]

Truthfully sex isn't complicated. Pay attention, relax, and actually want to be with your partner and it turns out just fine. It's the over-obvious need for theatrics and a specific scene or preconceived idea of how exactly it should go that fucks everything up. (Sorry to chime in.)

 

[TxRad]

95% of men reach orgasm during sex. 58% of women reach orgasm during sex. I wonder what the percentage would be for each group through masturbation.

No, sex is not rocket science for men.

The same can be said for women but.... it's much more complex both physically and mentally. A little help and understanding are needed. Nothing fancy, nothing hard to do, nothing outlandish.

So why isn't it done?

Lack of caring is the thing that stands out most to me. That and lack of understanding a good relationship.

*Puts soapbox away*

 

[NOIRTRASH]

95% of men reach orgasm during sex. 58% of women reach orgasm during sex. I wonder what the percentage would be for each group through masturbation.

No, sex is not rocket science for men.

The same can be said for women but.... it's much more complex both physically and mentally. A little help and understanding are needed. Nothing fancy, nothing hard to do, nothing outlandish.

So why isn't it done?

Lack of caring is the thing that stands out most to me. That and lack of understanding a good relationship.

*Puts soapbox away*

Vietnam changed my appreciation for plenty of stuff. Like I hated meat loaf before, and loved it after. A commode that works is a wonderful thing. When I returned an 8 hour work day was like vacation.

 

[TxRad]

Vietnam changed my appreciation for plenty of stuff. Like I hated meat loaf before, and loved it after. A commode that works is a wonderful thing. When I returned an 8 hour work day was like vacation.

And this has to do with the subject how?

I spent 3 tours there and all it did was make me crazy. I've got the certificate on the wall of my office signed by a psychiatrist and three ranking Marine Corp. officers. It also made me appreciate women that much more. Being without them makes a person do that.

 

[beachbum1958]

95% of men reach orgasm during sex. 58% of women reach orgasm during sex. I wonder what the percentage would be for each group through masturbation.

No, sex is not rocket science for men.

The same can be said for women but.... it's much more complex both physically and mentally. A little help and understanding are needed. Nothing fancy, nothing hard to do, nothing outlandish.

So why isn't it done?

Lack of caring is the thing that stands out most to me. That and lack of understanding a good relationship.

*Puts soapbox away*

I quite like Bill Crystal's thought on the subject; women need a reason to have sex; men just need a place...

 

[NOIRTRASH]

And this has to do with the subject how?

I spent 3 tours there and all it did was make me crazy. I've got the certificate on the wall of my office signed by a psychiatrist and three ranking Marine Corp. officers. It also made me appreciate women that much more. Being without them makes a person do that.

I was born in the Corps, get over it.

 

[elfin_odalisque]

Nope, sex is the most natural primal act there is we instinctively know how to do it.

Having said that, going by the endless discussions about it here, people do make it far more complicated than it is.

I would beg to differ a tad.

Surely, guys instinctively 'know' because of natural primeval urges
whilst girls are more reticent because virginity, giving their bodies to a man and different libidos makes for a different attitude.

 

[Ewobbit]

Good stuff here (and just the sort of discussions I missed most).

However, I would toss out one thing that I hadn't seen mentioned.

Porn + Stunt Fucking = Unrealistic Expectation?

I'm not knocking porn. After all, it's a good way to spend three hours on a lazy afternoon when all potential partners are busy.

But, in the original study cited (and yes, I would love to see their methodology and raw numbers), I would also be curious just how many of the guys in the study thought it would be "natural and primal" to stand their girl on her head, bend their hard dick down one hundred and eighty degrees, and plumb the depths of her anus.

NOT, I hasten to add after the "rear entry" thread, one that I was ever remotely tempted to emulate. Ouch! If she's into anal, fine. But, rightside up and with my dick at no more than 45 degrees, thank you Jenna Haze.

That may be too specific of an example, but I can't help but wonder just how much of the "rocket science" aspects, and the strange questions from "young 'uns" evolve from false expectations gleaned from somewhere. Maybe porn. Maybe wild tales full of lies swapped over beers.

 

[SecondCircle]

The assumption, I think, is that just because some things seem like common knowledge and Second nature means we shouldn't study it. Which I find ponderous. And actually, most times when we humans claim "we've got it", we kinda don't. We turn out wrong usually in most cases.

The "answer" may seem obvious. Actually most of that article seemed obvious to me. But apparently, mileage varies with obvious. (The article below that one was the one I actually got hung up on.)

 

[NOIRTRASH]

I've never encountered screaming anywhere yet its reported by all. I fucked an MD once and she kinda yelped as I ate her. I thought maybe it was me, but I always thought my 9 inch pecker was small. Over the years I've learned that women generally lie their asses off when it comes to reporting real sex but almost all like to fuck.

Lemme just add I pissed on an electric fence ONCE. Its not something I ever did TWICE. Didn't need a tutor or summer school to get the lesson.

 

[Ewobbit]

I've never encountered screaming anywhere yet its reported by all. I fucked an MD once and she kinda yelped as I ate her. I thought maybe it was me, but I always thought my 9 inch pecker was small. Over the years I've learned that women generally lie their asses off when it comes to reporting real sex but almost all like to fuck.

Lemme just add I pissed on an electric fence ONCE. Its not something I ever did TWICE. Didn't need a tutor or summer school to get the lesson.

I actually have a couple of times. Now, whether those screams were part of an act, that I couldn't say. Although, the other symptoms of feminine orgasm were there, so I don't think either was "faking it"... just "played up" maybe.

The first time it happened, I ended up crouched at the end of the bed apologizing profusely (I was about nineteen or twenty and absolutely terrified that I had been too rough and hurt her.) (Coincidentally, also my first encounter with a "squirting orgasm" and I thought she was pissing in my face as I cowered down at the foot of the bed.)

Many blue moons ago, I took a class in "Human Sexuality Through the Family Life Cycle" as part of a misspent attempt to go into Family Therapy. One of the things I remember was the instructor talking about an Indian tribe (don't remember which) that had a "Fireman" and "Firewoman". The "job" of these two people was to break in the young people and teach them about sex and how to please the opposite sex.

(Now, if I could have found THAT gig...)

But, a secondary task was to categorize people into four groups.

Buffalo Man/ Buffalo Woman
Horse Man/ Mare Woman
Wolf Man/ Fox Woman
Rabbit Man/ Rabbit Woman

(Not sure I have those labels right since it was a long time ago and as I recall I didn't get full credit for the answer on the test.)

Just how many inches was a matter of debate, but the general idea was that some men and women were built bigger and some built smaller. And while a Rabbit Man with a Buffalo Woman was considered an "awww", most girls in the class (and it was predominately female in the courses at the time) had a about the Buffalo Man with the Rabbit Woman. And it was the job of this "Fireman/Firewoman" to keep incompatible couples from forming.

I would just mention here that I have absolutely no idea if the research was his own unpublished work since several of my professors back then would do that, incorporate their own on-going grants into classes and I haven't been able to relocate it when I've had occasion to go digging. (On the other hand, Google baffles me when card catalogues made perfect sense right from the start.)

As a final note, when my wife had her hysterectomy, I was present in the room at the post-op consultation. (And if, as a male, you ever have the opportunity to talk shop with a gyno, don't.) This tall distinguished woman with a thick accent reminiscent of Dr. Ruth pointed out that there was significant bruising and damage to the cervix... with rather pointed looks at me over the top of her glasses. (What the hell was I supposed to do when she dug her talons in my ass and chanted "harder! faster!"?) And, I'm no Long Dong Silver.

 

[Desiremakesmeweak]

Rocket Science: 'to get things up, and to boldly go where no man has gone before.'