Is anybody interested in listening to points of view different from one's own?

[SimonDoom]

I'm curious. I don't see any point in participating in a politics forum without genuine curiosity and open-mindedness toward people who think differently from the way I do. But I see no evidence of that at all in this forum. It's boring, and the nastiness and one-sidedness is dispiriting.

Most online political forums I've seen are like this, but this one is worse than most.

 

[LLCox]

no

 

[HisArpy]

Political discussion is nothing more than seeing if you can get your preferred narrative to stick. Some take it to extremes. This place is no worse than other political forums I've wandered into.

 

[SimonDoom]

no

for honesty.

 

[SimonDoom]

Political discussion is nothing more than seeing if you can get your preferred narrative to stick. Some take it to extremes. This place is no worse than other political forums I've wandered into.

The only place the preferred narratives are sticking is in people's own minds. I don't ever see the needle budge one way or another.

Your narrative is instantly to brand anyone who disagrees with you slightly as a "lefty," which, if you actually bother to read what I write, I'm definitely not. I don't see that narrative making any head way in this forum.

 

[HisArpy]

The only place the preferred narratives are sticking is in people's own minds. I don't ever see the needle budge one way or another.

Your narrative is instantly to brand anyone who disagrees with you slightly as a "lefty," which, if you actually bother to read what I write, I'm definitely not. I don't see that narrative making any head way in this forum.

I read your posts and consider the content when replying. You align with the political left and your posts indicate that you, while more thoughtful because you attempt to clandestinely convey that you're "above it all" even though it's obvious that you're not when your posts are dissected, have many of the same end goals embraced by the moderate political left. For you, the ideals of the political right are shunned. Not because the ideals are bad, but because those ideals belong to "those people" and therefore cannot be trusted. Which is a slap in the face to your own neighbors and friends.

The needle doesn't move here because this forum, like many, is infested with trolls whose only purpose is to make themselves feel powerful. Laurel refuses to delouse her own creation and that gives the trolls the belief they have power. Of those who actually come here to learn and discuss current events and issues, I have seen several change their opinions. Admittedly I'm one of them who changed for what I believe to be the positive. I've also seen members go full rabid fuckwit in the opposite direction.

I don't "instantly brand" people. I do, however, find that particular trait more prevalent in those who espouse the Leftist viewpoint. One need only review the replies to my posts to see the truth in that.

 

[jaF0]

Harris good.

Donny bad.


No other opinions matter.

 

[Cuckwannabe111]

I seriously doubt many people come to political discussion threads for thought provoking discussions, being open minded, and sharing facts as opposed to talking points. Most people complain that the other side (whichever it may be) is close minded, when they themselves are just as bad.

 

[Saint_Ann]

Your second sentence nailed it. There is no point.

 

[HisArpy]

Harris good.

Donny bad.


No other opinions matter.

Here's a question:

What makes Harris 'good?'

Please answer without using any phrase like MAGA, convicted,liar, Trump, etc.

Bonus points if you can outline her official policies and vision should she be elected.

 

[HisArpy]

Your second sentence nailed it. There is no point.

That's not what he said.

He said HE doesn't see any point.

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

I’ve never met a conservative who held a position they could defend in open debate.

 

[HisArpy]

I’ve never met a conservative who held a position they could defend in open debate.

You've never met a conservative.

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

Here's a question:

What makes Harris 'good?'

Please answer without using any phrase like MAGA, convicted,liar, Trump, etc.

Bonus points if you can outline her official policies and vision should she be elected.

Kamala Harris supports restoring Roe v Wade, providing support to Israel, building more rail and mass transit, and strengthening voting rights.

 

[HisArpy]

Kamala Harris supports restoring Roe v Wade, providing support to Israel, building more rail and mass transit, and strengthening voting rights.

Cite?

Make it her OFFICIAL position too please. Not something some pundit in the media says.

 

[Bray123]

Felon is bad.
Felon is embarrassing.
Felon is bully.
Felon is traitor.

Harris is not felon.

 

[Saint_Ann]

Kamala Harris supports restoring Roe v Wade, providing support to Israel, building more rail and mass transit, and strengthening voting rights.

75% of campaign promises go unrealized. Pick one.

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

Cite?

Make it her OFFICIAL position too please. Not something some pundit in the media says.

I listened to her speech at the DNC and read her platform online.

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

75% of campaign promises go unrealized. Pick one.

You made up that statistic. See what I mean about conservatives not being able to defend their positions in open debate.

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

This thread is a golden opportunity for conservatives to demonstrate they’re worth debating. Show us your best game. Defend your support for Donald Trump without making up lies, sneering, or name-calling.

 

[HisArpy]

I listened to her speech at the DNC and read her platform online.

Cite to her platform please.

 

[Chernosoth]

The false binary of lib vs. con gets tiresome. There are many regions and cultures of the US, so all those cultures have different interpretations of political terms, including lib and con, and different interests or demands of the parties and candidates. And then there are many more cultures outside the US. Any of their perspectives can be enlightening. Something we accept as normal or necessary may seem insane outside the US. What the poor nations think of American life, and what they do instead, is particularly worth noticing as we slide down more into poverty.

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

Cite to her platform please.

I’m not playing your sea lion game.

 

[HisArpy]

I’m not playing your sea lion game.

You can't because there's no cite available since Harris hasn't put up ANY official platform.

Good luck on your river voyage in egypped.

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

You can't because there's no cite available since Harris hasn't put up ANY official platform.

Good luck on your river voyage in egypped.

https://democrats.org/where-we-stand/party-platform/