Is actual by force rape allowed on here?

[Dar~]

I was reading random stories on here and came across one where a guy takes his daughter while she is telling him no the whole time and crying when he rolls over. it has no indication of her enjoying it, and there is nothing to indicate that she wanted it at all. is this allowed, it almost seems too taboo to me.

http://english.literotica.com/stories/showstory.php?id=23904

 

[jfinn]

I thought it wasn't but the only thing the guidelines say isn't allowed is underage (<18) sex and beastiality so I guess it's a go. Not something I'd be reading though.

Jayne

 

[Edward Teach]

I was reading random stories on here and came across one where a guy takes his daughter while she is telling him no the whole time and crying when he rolls over. it has no indication of her enjoying it, and there is nothing to indicate that she wanted it at all. is this allowed, it almost seems too taboo to me.

http://english.literotica.com/stories/showstory.php?id=23904

Damn. It has always been my understanding that the person being raped had to ulitmately find it pleasurable. I dunno, Dar.

Ed

 

[Colleen Thomas]

It's my understanding the stories on here are entered in a category titled fantasies of control. I understand the fantasy has to be that of the victim, not the rapist. Were I you, I'd report it Dar. Worst case they will let you know exactly what the guidelines are.

 

[Dar~]

I just sent an email to Laurel and mentioned what the story was about, and asked if she could write and let me know what the guidelines were if I were wrong in bringing it to her attention. I also sent feedback to the author and mentioned how distasteful I felt the story was and why.

 

[Guest]

I just sent an email to Laurel and mentioned what the story was about, and asked if she could write and let me know what the guidelines were if I were wrong in bringing it to her attention. I also sent feedback to the author and mentioned how distasteful I felt the story was and why.

good. sometimes stories that aren't permitted slip past Laurel. you draw it to her attention and she'll read over it more carefully then see it snuck past her rubber stamp.

 

[Lucifer_Carroll]

was it in erotic horror? You can get away with those kinds of scenes in erotic horror (or at least, that's how I got a story of mine with a rape scene through). Not endorsing the writer if he wrote a scene endorsing rape, but just saying.


EDITED TO ADD: Ignore me, I'm a fucking moron who apparently can't read through a passage correctly before posting. Begin Shunning me immediately.

 

[Dar~]

Luc I couldn't hate you if I tried.

 

[Lucifer_Carroll]

Luc I couldn't hate you if I tried.

Thanks. I actually went back and read the story... I think it could have been a decent story if the father had committed suicide at the end or something. The "rapist father wins" ending was really really haunting.

 

[Dar~]

Thanks. I actually went back and read the story... I think it could have been a decent story if the father had committed suicide at the end or something. The "rapist father wins" ending was really really haunting.

Yeah, it really disturbed me. I was thinking okay cool story, he's going to find out she wants it, but then the story ends and she was crying. no paragraph with her saying wow that was great, just her crying. It made me feel dirty.

 

[Pure]

this is not Kansas

while most non consent category is 'fantasy of rape victim joining in and coming' this is not the case with all. i.e., a more 'realistic' story of force does appear from time to time in that category.

as someone above pointed out, even were this not the case, 'erotic horror' can encompass such a story.

 

[Weird Harold]

I understand the fantasy has to be that of the victim, not the rapist.

Making the distinction beween a "rape fantasy" and a "rapist fantasy" is dificult, but I don't think this story really fits in either definition. It's definitely a disturbing story, and the daughter definitely doesn't does't enjoy it, but the father isn't really getting off on the power trip as a rapist would either.

I'm not sure how it got past the "victim has to enjoy it" test but I can see how it passed the "no rapist fantasy" test. This story isn't the first part of a series, (or the second part was never written) so it probably wasn't passed as a setup for an situation that eventually gets resolved.

However, the story has been posed for four years, and I can't imagine it hasn't been challenged before this. At the time it was posted, I would have expected it to be banished to the (now defunct) Extreme site. Since Laurel no longer has that option I expect it will be allowed to remain because it does, just barely, avoid the prohibition on "Rapist Fantasies."

 

[shereads]

Just wondering: If someone wrote a serious story about rape - with the intention of being thought-provoking rather than erotic - would there be a place for it at Literotica?

 

[Typo Fu Master]

This has my curiosity up. I'm currently working on a story I plan to submit under Erotic Horror. It will include rape and torture. Does that cross the line? I was under the impression that as long as no kids and no animals are involved, then anything goes. If I'm wrong, then I'll definately rethink submitting it.

 

[carsonshepherd]

BTW Dar~, you usually have better luck PMing Laurel than emailing her. If she doesn't reply in a couple of days, my advice would be re-send it as a PM.

 

[Pure]

typo fu --- shereads

typo: I believe it will go. don't worry.

yes, sher, I think a 'real rape' could go to 'non consent'. i have seen that. you might insert an initial warning to the fantasy wankers.

[all the above, 'unofficial opinions' of course]

 

[Lucifer_Carroll]

Just wondering: If someone wrote a serious story about rape - with the intention of being thought-provoking rather than erotic - would there be a place for it at Literotica?

Yes, but the fantasy wankers hate you as Pure puts it. And I'm speaking from experience. Frankly those people scare me.

 

[erise]

I didn't read the story, but if it goes down like that, it's probably a more realistic scenario of rape than most stories here. But realistic forced rape has nothing to do on an erotic site, since it's intention should imo never be to excite people, but to disgust them.

Good thing you reported it. Let the admin decide.

 

[shereads]

typo: I believe it will go. don't worry.

yes, sher, I think a 'real rape' could go to 'non consent'. i have seen that. you might insert an initial warning to the fantasy wankers.

[all the above, 'unofficial opinions' of course]

I'm not writing it.

I just wonder if there isn't a better place for stories that confront rape as a serious issue than the non-consent category, where people are naturally looking for erotic fantasies.

Actually, I'm not wondering anymore. I was wondering last night, but I was tired.

 

[shereads]

Yes, but the fantasy wankers hate you as Pure puts it. And I'm speaking from experience. Frankly those people scare me.

The wankers hate me? Why me? I didn't do anything. I just posted to the thread because my brain was wandering around last night bumping into things.

Which people scare you, Luc? The wankers or the writers?

 

[Dar~]

BTW Dar~, you usually have better luck PMing Laurel than emailing her. If she doesn't reply in a couple of days, my advice would be re-send it as a PM.

It wa sa PM, email was a typo. Thanks though

 

[bridgeburner]

See, now this bothers me. Nobody ever proposes that reading incest stories encourages hoardes of folks to go out and start getting it on with their blood relatives.

If you're uncomfortable with an idea then don't read about it. People have different tastes and to imply that somehow what you like is less influential or dangerous than what someone else likes based on what those actions would be like in the real world is to totally miss the distinction between fact and fiction.

Suppose that reading vast hoardes of certain types of stories really did influence the average reader. What kind of message does it send when 4000+ stories say it isn't really rape if she cums? Yeah, it's okay to break into a woman's home, knock her around, tie her up and force your dick in her but all is forgiven if you can make her like it.

There's no such thing as a kinder gentler rapist, you know? I'm more offended by the rape stories that turn women into nymphomaniacs because it's like " I got my rocks off with the non-consentual aspects of the story but I can still claim the moral high ground because she came". What kind of fucked up shucking of responsibility is that?

-B

 

[Lucifer_Carroll]

The wankers hate me? Why me? I didn't do anything. I just posted to the thread because my brain was wandering around last night bumping into things.

Which people scare you, Luc? The wankers or the writers?

You shouldn't have kicked their dog, meanie. Now they'll hate you forever and ever and ever. <nyah>

The people who tried to get off on a story of mine which was a bittersweet tale that included a rape scene that was rape, not "funrape". Then they posted PCs complaining about how they couldn't get off on it. The fact that they had tried scares me very very much.

 

[sweetnpetite]

However, the story has been posed for four years, and I can't imagine it hasn't been challenged before this. At the time it was posted, I would have expected it to be banished to the (now defunct) Extreme site. Since Laurel no longer has that option I expect it will be allowed to remain because it does, just barely, avoid the prohibition on "Rapist Fantasies."

I read the story.

I don't think it even comes close to what was classified as extreme.

I don't even think it's that bad. (or that good)

As far as I know the whole "it has to be the 'victim's fantasy' " is not the rule at all, just something that many people concluded was the rule.

The story was weak. I'm suprised that anyone could have had much of an extreme reaction to it. As far as I'm concerned, nearly everything I've posted here is by far more shocking than this.

I don't think there ever was a rule that 'the victim has to like it'- and personally, i hope there never is. I dont' think it's 'extreme' at all. this story fit's perfectly in the incest category.

Now- about NONCONSENT (actually a different topic, but close)-- this category is NONCONSENT, what does that mean? reluctance was added later, and I don't really care for the addition. If you don't want to read non-consent, I think you should avoid the cat. Reluctance and raveshment are a whole different ball of wax. I dont' think nonconsent should be full of brutal rapes or anything, but I would think that an unwilling and NONCONSENTING character would be anything but out of line in the category.

 

[sweetnpetite]

I was reading random stories on here and came across one where a guy takes his daughter while she is telling him no the whole time and crying when he rolls over. it has no indication of her enjoying it, and there is nothing to indicate that she wanted it at all. is this allowed, it almost seems too taboo to me.

http://english.literotica.com/stories/showstory.php?id=23904

The categor is incest/taboo. I would expect no less.

Most people here seem entirely put off by the incest category all together, thinking that it's already 'too taboo.' (Perv that I am- I read it all the time)

Didn't think this story was very impressive on any level. Could have been good, but wasn't very developed. I really didn't have an objection to the subject matter.