Interracial stories

[theblackthought]

The difficulty I find in the interracial stories as they are posted here revolves around how they are described next to the link. I guess I would like a little more detail, or an accurate description of the story. I am not big on a lot of dialouge in a story- I am more into a description of the thoughts and actions of the characters...

 

[Hitchhiker]

what is this interracial thing?

Interacial is a funny word to it has dark hiden meanings that are possibly disturbing.
I myself am in a very happy marriage which could be concidered as an interacail affair. But why because I come from the Uk and my wife comes from Singapore. Her family arrived in Singapore from southern China about 100years ago.
Now I met my wife whilst traveling in NZ 11 years ago. We were both traveling the world and as many other travelers were seeking. What we were seeking was an answer to life the universe etc.
Niether of us had found our soul mate within our own cultural back ground. But when we met it was fire and fireworks.We were meant to be together.
Wether it was for the sake of our karma or spirit I dont know but we are not an interacail couple but an intercultural one. Niether of us had considered a relationship with a person from another part of the planet, it just was meant to be. If you would like to know the real deep and meaningful story then send me a private request but be warned it is very romantic and also magical. But then we live within magic ,but fail to see the signs.

Even so I must admit a preferance for the oriental female form but then I'm bias.

 

[mskittykatt]

hello and Well met,
i suspect hitchiker that your response was touching on what black thought when he requested more discriptive lines... but i could be way off. For instance with your tastes drawn to oriental woman, wouldn't you prefer to scan the stories you want to read for things that match your interests?
I am just learning to match my descriptions to my story-line better, it's something i hadn't thought much of before.
As for the story of your meeting and falling in love, there is a romance section, if it's as beautiful as you imply write it, and post it there Hitchiker!

 

[daughter]

'oriental' is style like furniture

It's asian. Sorry, pet peeve.

Good descriptives help, but bothering to read an opening paragraph to see if a story might interest you isn't too labor intensive. Somebody spent far more time writing the story. Would it hurt to give an aspiring writer 2 minutes of your time?

Whatever your preferences are, it's up to you to find authors who meet them. You've been on this site 2 seconds by comparison to the efforts of the authors and readership here. Invest a little time, and you just might find what you're looking for.

May be a tad more abrasive than necessary, but folks constantly whining and taking, gets old.

This is a community. Please respect it as such.

Peace,

daughter

 

[VeraGem]

Dialogue, like any other element in writing, needs to add something to the story. Personally I can get rather bored with endless descriptions and mute characters. Call it a matter of personal taste - but my characters only begin to 'come alive', so to speak, when mouths open and words spill forth.

On the other hand, dialogue consisting of nothing but "oh baby, give me that hard cock - yeah, just like that..." leaves me cold and reaching for the back button.

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While I understand the taboo allure that interracial stories have for some, It takes more than a collision of black and white to get my blood moving. A person is attractive to me or not - and simply to belong to another race fails to push my buttons in and of itself. Though I agree that some interesting tension can be manufactured using the interracial device, there has to be some sort of connection and story as well.

Just my two cents...

 

[KillerMuffin]

Most interracial requests over on the story ideas forum seem to involve the plot line of a white woman willingly/unwillingly gang banged by a large group of large, well hung black men. I don't understand this.

I don't like most interracial stories because they're stereotypical. The color is the most important part of the character and everything the characters do or react to are directly related to that color and the stereotypes involved with it. I think the other thing that bothers me is that the white woman and/or husband, if he's involved, are the only characters. The others are nothing but props, non-persons.

Sorry, but I know a lot of black men. I don't know any that would enjoy playing a part of a large group of large, well hung black men willingly/unwillingly gang banging a white woman. Most of them prefer the one on one thing with one woman who they enjoy being with no matter what color she is. They're men, they want the things that men want. Reality and fantasy just part ways too hard in this one. I can't suspend my disbelief.

I'm not really sure what he meant by "dialogue" because dialogue is what moves a story, not flat description. Of course, I prefer a story to a description of sex. If he means the NEOM as dialogue, the I fully agree. Yuck. Er, NEOM, Never Ending Orgasmic Moment "OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHH MYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY GGGGGGGGGGGGGGAAAAAWWWDDDDDDDDDDDDD IIIIIIIII'MMMMMMMM CUMMMMMINGGGGGGGGGGGGG." YEE-UCK!

 

[Hitchhiker]

Daughter-Asia stretches from Turkey to Japan and encompasses a lot facail and body features from (have to use racail terms here sorry) Europe, right through to Mongolia. For me the word Oriental envisions the Chinese/Japanese face and basic body structure. Sorry pet peeve.

Due to horrible events in the past which we all feel uncomfortable about. Wether from the point of view of the victim or the perpitrator. Some words are taboo.
For example the last guy to call my wife Chink had to look up at me to say sorry He "didnt think";and thats where a lot of the problems stem from lack of thinking.
If for another example I/we used the "N" word all hell would break loose. But why? after all it is only the word for the colour in another tongue. But because it causes so much offence we do not use it in public (this is public?).
It would interesting to see why "Interracial" stories are read. Is it that white female fantasy of the big black dick or something else?
I for one can never see where guys get off watching their woman having sex with other men or to see women suffer and be degraded. But then I maybe different even kinky in wanting to give pleasure. In pt2 of "A funny thing happened" this subject will be discussed and hopefully well descibed in the words of the story and by the characters which is fact based on experience the reader will have to wait to get the juicy bits but it maybe a learning experience for some.Hitting the back button just because a story doesnt go where you want it is very immature and disrespectful, one must always get to the end before passing judgement
Sorry to go on, but this is all important to all of us and should be discussed in public to give others understanding of what we all need to do to make a better world.
With regard to dialogue- This is something that all writters need to develope, but with all things it takes time to learn and do. Before I found Literotica I had never written.
I will have a read of the romantic section learn and then I may write the story.
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"He is only a fool whilst he asks the question
When he has the answer he is again a wiseman"

 

[mskittykatt]

Woah, hold on Daughter, how about giving this aspiring writer two minutes of *your* time! You have no idea of others reading habits as compared to yours or anyone else’s, Nor do they have to compare to yours or anyone else’s to be valid and fulfilling.
I think the whole point to asking for other descriptive lines *was* to avoid "white woman submits to 10 ft. black cock" That seems to be to be a fairly simple request for somebody interested in interracial stories... I myself am Alaskan Indian, and have to admit if i was looking for stories about such couplings I would definitely have to pass on the, Eskimo takes it from so and so, and would move on to other descriptions.
I am not here to argue about political correctness on anyone's side Words like Asian and Oriental obviously mean different things to different people, and there is no way to please everybody!
Although descriptions I agree, aren't everything they are meant to catch the readers attention to the possible interest in the story.
Yes I am very new here, and I am also making an attempt to get involved and voice my opinions on various matters that interest me in the discussion boards. The time I invest here and how I spend it, is frankly none of your business, if you don’t like it, then don’t bother reading my posts.
As with any community to grow and thrive it requires a mix of people with varying roles…
Hitchhiker, I would love to see your story if you decide to write it =) drop me a PM when you do! As for the rest of this topic in general, I do hope people can find what they’re looking for despite this trouble.

 

[Hitchhiker]

Now we're cooking.. This is what I call a discussion.
Love and respect is what we all need.
For your infromation the hottest stories I've read are incest nephew and aunt. Funny that since I've never had such an experience, but I've thought the fantasy naughty, naughty!

Get ready with the kleenex romantic story no.1 on the drawing board.

We must learn to remember that there is a big difference between lust and love.
"friends first lovers second" That is the phylosophy behind my relationship with my wife. Even though before we met I had,had scores of sexual relationships which were just that sex. When I met my wife...........(don't want to spoil the story)
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If you haven't seen it already go see "Lord of the Rings"
Its F****g fantastic.
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We have one ring that binds us Keep on writting

 

[mskittykatt]

Hello and Well Met Everyone.
You have a good point Hitchiker, about the difference between love and lust, and the differences it can make in a relationship if it is started as friends.
I think each of us comes here, looking for different things each time we visit. Some days I am looking for a quick fix, I want Passion and fucking. Some days I am looking for romance and crackling fires. Some days I am looking for the more extreme naughty stories. Some days I am just looking for companionship to pass the time, with other authors and open minded people.
Each time we visit we get to explore other peoples space, in their posts, in their stories and poems. It can be fulfilling each time, if we enter this place remembering that we are all people with feelings, desires, and needs. And above all that those feelings, desires, and needs change on a continuous basis, making us each who we are.

 

[Hitchhiker]

Mskitty look in your mail inbox.

And to answer what you just said

YES !!!
Night night a may the force be with you - All

 

[VeraGem]

Racism and Haggis

The paradigm that a white woman having sex with a black man is degrading to the white woman may tell us more about racism than we want to see. Raised in a racist family, I find myself ever on guard against becoming what my father was. I remember hearing him tell my mother at the dinner table: "If I ever found out you had N***** blood I'd divorce you." I think it was at that moment I began to see him for what he was - an ugly, self-aggrandizing coward who built himself up through the degradation of others.

I just don't dig degradation as a sexual kick anyway, I have my reasons. That's not to say I judge others harshly if they do. We all have our fantasies, after all - and some of mine wouldn't play very well in public either. If I choose to write about them, or incorporate certain of these elements/fantasies into my stories, I fully expect a number of readers to be turned off by it. That's life, you can't please everyone. I choose to start by pleasing myself. If I get good feedback or favorable voting I'm hopping up and down with glee. If not I can at least be happy with what I've done and move on to the next story.

As far as hitting the back button being immature and disrespectful, I strongly disagree. Let me put it this way: If your friends all like to eat haggis, (a Scottish dish consisting of the lungs, heart, liver and testicles of a sheep), does that mean you have to eat an entire plateful before you judge it? What if, at the first bite, the gag reflex kicks in and you are suddenly faced with two choices - spit or vomit? Maybe you could choke it down if you tried but alone, in the privacy of your home, I think most of us would say "fuckin yuck!" and promptly dispose of the remains.

Now, to email your friends and tell them all they have shitty taste would indeed be disrespectful - but if you don't at least tell them, if they ask, that you're not fond of their cuisine, you may find yourself sitting down to another steaming plate of something vile. On the other hand, you may feel you owe it to yourself to give it a try. I don't.

My readers owe me nothing. They like it or not, back click or not as they choose. I love it when my work goes over well, and I pout when it doesn't. That's my problem though and no one else's. I choose to learn from feedback, if I'm lucky enough to get it, good or bad.


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Ditto Hitchhiker's review of Lord of the Rings - I've read the trilogy somewhere between six and ten times and they've done a masterful job here. It's so well put together that one doesn't need to know anything about the story to sit, spellbound, terrified and crying for three hours that seem to pass far too quickly.

Ash nazg durbatulûk...

 

[theblackthought]

Since I started this...

Maybe I should speak up for myself with in regards to "Daughter's" reply:

I am a Black male. I love to read erotica. I love to read erotic stories about Black men coupling with women of other races and ethnicities[I will not discuss my psychological reasoning]. What I am "whining" about is the lack of imagination, description, and sensuality I encounter in most interracial stories involving Black men[like we are only well-hung, pack-driven, sex-crazed heathens]. Also, the "tags" next to the story names betray no sense of whether a story will be a quick "fuck" or an epic "affair".

By dialouge, I mean the popular He said... She said... REPEATEDLY for about 2 pages. I am a creature of imagination, so I would like to have a story that captures it through imagery.

Finally, "2mintues" to read a couple of paragraphs in ALL of the stories on this board... Who are you kidding?!?!? A mojority of the stories I have stumbled across don't tell you much in the first paragraph- you have to page down a little and read, THEN go back to the beginning- if you like how is seems to progress[which isn't a problem]... HOWEVER- the sheer NUMBER of stories in here is such that you have to be in the mood to sift through 20/30 stories before you find what your particular fancy may be. Then do it all over again to find the next story- and again- and again-.... Get my point?

I am in no way saying that this BBS is a waste of my time or disappointing to me- I am only stating that if the headers could somehow give me a better heads up about what awaits me on the other side of the hyperlink, I would appreciate it.

 

[KillerMuffin]

Well... what works for me is that I know the authors that I like and don't like. I'll try new ones, but not often.

I don't cruise the new list either, I just go to the category. Generally, I only read anything with a 4.00 or larger next to it. Unless, of course, I've read them all, then I'll cruise downwards.

*sighs* That's the problem with such a huge database, you have to separate the wheat from the chaff. The good thing is that there is always something new to read.

 

[daughter]

QUOTE]Originally posted by mskittykatt
Woah, hold on Daughter, how about giving this aspiring writer two minutes of *your* time! You have no idea of others reading habits as compared to yours or anyone else’s, Nor do they have to compare to yours or anyone else’s to be valid and fulfilling.

***mskitty, I don't know what I said that set you off. I agree, folks don't have to meet others' standards or expectations. I believe that is your point.

I have spent more than two minutes reading you mskitty. I have read everything you've posted on the forum and the site. I honored your request. I support the efforts of all writers who come to this forum. Unfortunately, like everyone else, I don't always have time to comment.


I think the whole point to asking for other descriptive lines *was* to avoid "white woman submits to 10 ft. black cock" That seems to be to be a fairly simple request for somebody interested in interracial stories... I myself am Alaskan Indian, and have to admit if i was looking for stories about such couplings I would definitely have to pass on the, Eskimo takes it from so and so, and would move on to other descriptions.

***Point taken.

Yes I am very new here, and I am also making an attempt to get involved and voice my opinions on various matters that interest me in the discussion boards. The time I invest here and how I spend it, is frankly none of your business, if you don’t like it, then don’t bother reading my posts.

****I don't dislike you, your opinion or anyone else's. I don’t know you. I talk about writing, mskitty. I don’t make personal attacks. I say what I think. If we are disagreeing about something, clue me in. I am candid and opinionated. Good advice. We agree again. I don’t read things that don’t interest me.

As with any community to grow and thrive it requires a mix of people with varying roles…

***Amen! I hope you stick around. And next time daughter gets on your nerves, say so or ignore her. She doesn’t take herself that seriously. Wait till you meet her cohorts, KillerMuffin and Unmasked Poet. We’re thrilled to have new members. Glad you’re here.

Peace,

daughter

 

[Hitchhiker]

try something new

Now now Daughter and ms kittykatt.
Lets not have to much fur flying. We have all learnt from this dialogue. Plus read some new work we would otherwise have over looked.
Veragem I've made a start on your work good writting. I'll tell you in private the details of my views.

For killermuffin and Black through and through (sorry forgt yr full tag) Try useing key words in a search you most probaly have but then I have a degree in the bleeding obviouse. The key words can suit your mood. As for what you want in a story why not write it yourself someone will come along read what you have written. Think they can do better with the same plot and do another story. I know because its happened to me already.
Hitting the cervix with the tip of the old fellow. And I aint 10inchs long¬!!!!!(jeff knows who he is!)
Keep up the comments
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"A woman is like a fine voilin the more practise the better the sound"

 

[mskittykatt]

Hitchhiker, you only wish the fur was flying LOL =P~
Daughter, I have no other disagreements then what I have openly posted here! ((smiles)) infact I find you stimulating and fun. If we had no one to challenge our thoughts what a sad day that would be. I'll nearly always speak my mind freely unless it is personal or serious and then it would be in PM or email.

 

[P. B. Walker]

Re: Since I started this...

I am in no way saying that this BBS is a waste of my time or disappointing to me- I am only stating that if the headers could somehow give me a better heads up about what awaits me on the other side of the hyperlink, I would appreciate it.

I have to agree with you there theblackthought. It would be nice to see something like (these are in no particular order and they are just suggestions):

a. the keywords associated with the story
b. length - short (1-2 pages), medium (3-5 pages), long (6+ pages).
c. along with the voting average, the number of votes. (I know some people won't read a story unless it has a certain average, hell I do it too sometimes, but seeing a 4.5 average with 100+ votes is quite different from seeing a story with a 4.5 average and only 4 votes.
d. number of reads.

These would be shown in the tops lists and in the category views.

Just a suggestion..

- PBW

 

[mskittykatt]

Re: Re: Since I started this...

c. along with the voting average, the number of votes. (I know some people won't read a story unless it has a certain average, hell I do it too sometimes, but seeing a 4.5 average with 100+ votes is quite different from seeing a story with a 4.5 average and only 4 votes.
d. number of reads.

These would be shown in the tops lists and in the category views.

Just a suggestion..

- PBW

Isn't that the sad truth of this life...
Can't get reads and votes without first getting reads and votes.

P.S. Yes I've already heard how to get other authors to notice you more... and I understand the title and description are largely what determines the average readers decision to read your story. But it also isn't the average reader that sends you feedback or votes... they are cruising to find something exciting. So.... we come back to the regulars.
I don't know what average any of my stories would have with 100+ votes!! I'd sure be interested to know myself. Several of mine have 10,000 and 11,000 views.. but only 20 votes. I can see however how my newest writings are getting higher views and votes then my first two, so i will work from there, and see what happens!

 

[daughter]

Killer's less eloquent sister

I have been a little more strident than normal with the newbies and I apologize for that.

Let me clarify what I have been trying to articulate here. When you have a database/site of this size, you are going to have to wade through a lot to find what you want if you don't do a little homework first. For that reason, I have tried to stress the value of interaction here. Quite frankly, without getting to know some of the authors, and reading other members recommendations, you are going to waste what too little time you have trying to find stories here.

Thought, I hear what you're saying. Not debating your point. I offered you a solution. I don't expect folks to listen to me like I'm an authority. I just happen to have shown up before you, and I offered you my experience. Take it for what it's worth.

It takes some time and a bit of effort to fully appreciate what this site has to offer. The sheer volume is a both an asset and a liability. Even if you're here as a reader only, the writer forums will provide you with a lot of answers you're looking for.

Peace,

daughter

 

[mskittykatt]

I have listened Daughter =) I am here reading and responding when things interest me, and trying to reach out to other new authors as well as the more seasoned ones. Everyone has a valuable opinion and style... however I can't be here longer then I have been, and i can only do what I'm doing, as fast as I am doing it LOL

 

[daughter]

mskitty, you have a habit

of personalizing things or am I failing to make it clear that I am addressing the collective 'you'?

Nonetheless, your contributions and presence are appreciated.

Peace,

daughter

 

[mskittykatt]

your clear

I can only reply as me however... so I do =)

 

[Laurel]

Re: Re: Re: Since I started this...

Isn't that the sad truth of this life...
Can't get reads and votes without first getting reads and votes.

I agree - this can be a problem. This is the main reason we don't list data such as story scores on the "New" list. We list only the titles, the descriptions. We added the H or E icons to give the reader some compass, but we generally try to limit data in that area so that readers (hopefully) will vote as they feel, not as they think they should feel. Readers who wish can always visit the Top Reads list or the Top Votes list.

I understand your point, theblackthought. As daughter has already noted, with a large archive of stories it can get difficult for a reader to find a story they dig. To try to help, we categorize the stories by theme and plan to eventually have subcategories as appropriate. We have top lists for both story scores and reads. Eventually, we'll enable the Member Voting toplists, and that will be yet another source of information for the reader who desires it.

Still, all the manual & automatic categorization can only do so much. I can go into my local bookstore and walk into the New Fiction area. I can glance at the covers, read the descriptions, and note the authors. These give me some idea of whether I'll enjoy the story. However, the only way for me to know whether I like the novel or not is to actually read it.

You stated that you prefer stories with less dialogue. Other readers enjoy dialogue. Some prefer stories with vivid description. These are all personal tastes that cannot be categorized like "Romance" or "BDSM". As has been mentioned, the best way to find what you like is to read around, then discuss your preferences for certain writers with others. Often, you'll find other readers/writers who enjoy the same writers you do, and will be willing to recommend more in the same vein. That's how I got started reading general fiction long ago, and the same principle holds true for erotic fiction.

On the writer side... The three things a writer has at his/her disposal for attracting readers and getting across the essence of the story are 1) the title; 2) the description; and 3) the keywords. I think there are some authors who do use these to their advantage, but I don't think everyone is aware of how important these three elements can be to the 'success' of your story. The title is the most read element - it tells the reader if you story is serious or whimsical, 'nasty' or romantic, and so on.

The description field is not fully utilized by many writers. In such a limited space, redundancy is a detriment. If the story is already categorized as, say "Interracial", then the description line "Black woman has sex with White man" is useless to the reader. A BDSM story with the descriptor "Slave is punished by Master" is another that, IMHO, fails the reader.

Ask yourself: what makes your story unique from other stories on the site and in its category? What is the source of the tension within the story? Break out of the stereotypes. Rather than "Black woman has sex with White man", maybe "Dionne unwillingly succumbs to White coworker", or "Joe finally seduces shy Ebony coworker". In the first description, the reader knows there's a two people of mixed races having sex and that's about it. In the second and third, they know that not only do two people have sex, but that they are coworkers and that one of them is hesitant about the encounter. Why is she hesitant? the reader wonders. And they click to find out.

Similarly, "Slave is punished by Master" doesn't give the reader that much to go on. If the story revolves around a submissive woman who pleasures herself without permission and gets caught, maybe a better description would be "Sub pays price for a moment of forbidden pleasure." What forbidden pleasure? the reader wants to know. What price? And hopefully, they click to find out.

One thing to keep in mind when writing a description and title is that we try as best as we can to keep these on one line in the listings. Therefore, you should balance the length of your title with the length of your descriptor.

The keywords are not shown with the story, but they are used in the Story Search. When choosing keywords, try to envision what kind of reader would enjoy your story, and what words they might use. For example, if you write an incest story in which the grandfather blackmails the mother into having sex in a public place, you might use the keywords "mother, grandfather, blackmail, public, exhibitionist, incest". If your story involved a small Asian woman and a Black man falling in love in Europe, you might choose the keywords "romance, interracial, petite, asian, ebony, black, travel, europe". I do check the keywords, so those crazy folks who want to slip in the dictionary - be warned! And if I don't catch you, readers tend to be rather annoyed when they run a search and come up with a story that has none of the elements they're looking for - and these readers do vote.

We have many, many upgrades in the works for 2002, much of which grew out of reader and writers feedback. We're definitely open to suggestions and ideas, so please keep them coming!

 

[mskittykatt]

Ty Laurel

Hello and Well Met Laurel
Thank you for your examples of story descriptions Laurel. I am one that learns better with hands on and it helps to have examples there for me =)