Intelligence?

WantonWitch said:
As I said children are resiliant and believe it or not are quite capable of making thier own minds up.

So the father gets mean, you both need to reassure the children that you love and respect each other, that you got together because you loved each other so much it hurt to be apart. Don't fight back with more spiteful words, always use positive and loving reasons
Absolutely.

But I still maintain... These kids are going to see their father. And he is the kind who has no hesitation in using his children as a weapon. So, say he continually pounds into these kids heads that their family was destroyed by this man, and by their weak, selfish mother. I don't care how resilient kids are, this hurts...
 
lik_m_ade said:
Is it just me or is this somewhat off topic?
Uhm, I don't know...

I thought it was an attempt to engage in an intelligent conversation about a given situation...??
 
BlackWolf65 said:
Strictly hypothetical, of course...

Let's say that there is a man who has had little if anything to do with his children in terms of quality time for fifteen years. Suddenly, his wife says that she is leaving. He takes a vacation from work for a week, and decides that it's time to "make up for lost time."

The kids know of the tension - all kids do... and when this starts, the oldest kid says to mom, "Does he think he can make up for fifteen years with one week?"

AND YET... This man is their father... And as the marriage finally dissolves, they are hurt by watching this... Even though Dad hasn't really been there, he *has* been in the house, but now, he's gone. And suddenly, here comes the interloper... The man that Dad says is completely responsible for the destruction of the family...

Are these kids being hurt??


So it's better to put these kids thru the day to day and years long torture of watching thier parents be unhappy until all they hear are bitter twisted words from waking up to going to sleep.
No, far better a clean break, at least that way both children and parents have a chance to improve the way thier lives are lived.
 
BlackWolf65 said:
Uhm, I don't know...

I thought it was an attempt to engage in an intelligent conversation about a given situation...??

Ok, that's why I asked...wasn't sure whether we were talking only about "intelligent conversation" or giving examples as well from other topics.

Thanks for clarifying...

Lik
 
lik_m_ade said:
Ok, that's why I asked...wasn't sure whether we were talking only about "intelligent conversation" or giving examples as well from other topics.

Thanks for clarifying...

Lik
No, it was an outgrowth of the question as to whether or not acting on sexual tension can hurt someone...
 
lik_m_ade said:
Is it just me or is this somewhat off topic?


Yup, guess it could be a hijack * Drags thread back to INTELLIGENCE again *

And I'm gone

Blackwolf, if you want to carry on this conversation either drop in my thread or pm me :)

Good night again :kiss:
 
WantonWitch said:
Yup, guess it could be a hijack * Drags thread back to INTELLIGENCE again *

And I'm gone

Blackwolf, if you want to carry on this conversation either drop in my thread or pm me :)

Good night again :kiss:
Okay... I guess I got lost in here... I probably missed the true topic of the thread... My apologies... WW, I just may do that... What's your thread??
 
WantonWitch said:
*Grins* I thought that would make you laugh, but it's definitely true, I may not like flowery volumes of compliments and rubbish, but I certainly enjoy a good debate, have to keep me interested out of the bedroom too


yes debates are nice.


and it does keep the intrest on going.

but also I find eccentricities nice.

and you know well the druid.
 
BlackWolf65 said:
Okay... I guess I got lost in here... I probably missed the true topic of the thread... My apologies... WW, I just may do that... What's your thread??


No apologies needed, it was a part of the debate that got dragged off topic a lil' happens in all good debates

Doesn't time fly


https://forum.literotica.com/showthread.php?p=18990408#post18990408

that's the last page, it kinda grew into a home thread for me on lit :)
 
alisonwunderlnd said:
I can spend A LOT of time in bed,,, ;) however,,,he has simply got to have a brain to get me there to start out with
call me easy..call me freaky(many have),,But its way so much more of a turn on for me to have a stimulating conversation even over a cup of tea vs a stupid man taking me out on the tiles all night,,
mmm...ponders damn I am a freak,yeah?


I've a friend that simply cannot seem to carry a conversation. The once or twice we've tried ... he hangs up on me as soon as we reach a difference of opinion. Now the extent of our convos are 'what did you do today? where are you?' I'm not hooked on that kind of convo...
 
Gypsybyrd said:
I've a friend that simply cannot seem to carry a conversation. The once or twice we've tried ... he hangs up on me as soon as we reach a difference of opinion. Now the extent of our convos are 'what did you do today? where are you?' I'm not hooked on that kind of convo...
He hangs up when you have a difference of opinion??

Hmmm...

Kind of like the ignore button, isn't it?? :D:D
 
BlackWolf65 said:
He hangs up when you have a difference of opinion??

Hmmm...

Kind of like the ignore button, isn't it?? :D:D


Yes but very annoying. Problem is ... I'm not attracted to him b/c there's no conversation about anything of substance ... pity too b/c he's a really nice man.
 
Gypsybyrd said:
Yes but very annoying. Problem is ... I'm not attracted to him b/c there's no conversation about anything of substance ... pity too b/c he's a really nice man.
A stab in the dark, but...

Could it be that he's a bit intimidated by you? I mean, being a law student, etc., being able to debate is a prerequisite for the job, you know?

Maybe he just feels like he can't hold up his end of the conversation?
 
keiffers said:
I say both are fine...BUT the only peeve I have are when threads get taken over by 'lovey dovey' stuff....granted that's cute and and all, but sometimes it goes too far.....ok hate me if you will, but I think some of it is too much...
Amen to that Keiffer :D
 
BlackWolf65 said:
A stab in the dark, but...

Could it be that he's a bit intimidated by you? I mean, being a law student, etc., being able to debate is a prerequisite for the job, you know?

Maybe he just feels like he can't hold up his end of the conversation?

It could be ...
 
interesting words going on here....

...in regards to the marriage that is dissolving- yes children are resilient they are also keen observers. Anyone with children will tell you it's not what you SAY but what you DO that the children pick up on. As long as the mother does not denegrate the father in front of the children nor uses them as a weapon of destruction the children WILL see and come to their own conclusions. It isn't easy to take the high road. It can be very lonely but in the long run the children WILL see the truth about their father and when they do you might be surprised at how sad it will make you. (yes speaking from experience)

Now about words ...make love to the mind and the rest will most definately follow...if you chose to act upon the sexual tension. I have several male friends in real life that I love talking to because the repartee between us is filled with all sorts of clever inuendo. It's challengeing to think of new topics of conversation. Would I act upon any of the 'sexual tension" generated? No. Do I take the best of these conversations and then talk to my man? OH yes! and then it's OH OH Oh Ohhhhhhh yesssssss! :heart: :rose: :kiss:
 
BlackWolf65 said:
Speaking of which...

We never did get into that debate about the judicial system that we started to talk about...

No we didn't ... feel free to start it up anytime/place
 
mrtnmoon said:
if you'll look back over the thread, you'll see that it was your buddy that took it up a notch, for taking such great offense to such an innocuous comment. I never got hostile til there was hostility directed at me.

as for whining and self-pitying.... you've all done your share of it, too.... I guess that doesn't count, tho, because it's in the name of "love". at least what counts for love over the internet and the phone. no, wait.... I forgot... out of 100,000 posters on lit or however many it is, I'm the only one that ever expresses anything negative.

I'm not sure what your idea of being able to "debate with the best of them" is, but it seems to me that you mean calling me names. go on with your bad self. you rock, dude. you've really put me in my place. *yawn*

I'm done.... put me on ignore if my posts bother you. that's where you're going.

First of all- my apologies for interrupting the current great flow on this thread.

Moon, while I will agree that Bear was defensive about your original post, I also understand why he felt that way. I have read your comments on the thread in question before, and found some of your comments about other posters behavior very rude. If you don't enjoy the "Lovey- Dovey Bullshit" why do you go there? As previously stated, if you don't like the thread and what occurs there, don't go.
As for the ability to debate with the rest of them- I believe you were the one who began throwing around names. If your idea of debating is "fuck you", and "wanker", that's not debating, it's a whiny (yes, whiny) little boy's way of yelling.
I'm fully aware of the posts you've made in the past, and you are very negative, overly-sensitive and offensive. Most of us have good days and bad, and lit is an opportunity to discuss it openly. However, judging from many of your comments, and your obvious hostility issues, it sounds like you need a good psychiatrist.
 
Gypsybyrd said:
I've a friend that simply cannot seem to carry a conversation. The once or twice we've tried ... he hangs up on me as soon as we reach a difference of opinion. Now the extent of our convos are 'what did you do today? where are you?' I'm not hooked on that kind of convo...

but it's fun to argue! Especially with someone your're dating, and especially about something unrelated to the two of you. It gets you worked up and not angry at the other person. :)
 
emacat said:
First of all- my apologies for interrupting the current great flow on this thread.

Moon, while I will agree that Bear was defensive about your original post, I also understand why he felt that way. I have read your comments on the thread in question before, and found some of your comments about other posters behavior very rude. If you don't enjoy the "Lovey- Dovey Bullshit" why do you go there? As previously stated, if you don't like the thread and what occurs there, don't go.
As for the ability to debate with the rest of them- I believe you were the one who began throwing around names. If your idea of debating is "fuck you", and "wanker", that's not debating, it's a whiny (yes, whiny) little boy's way of yelling.
I'm fully aware of the posts you've made in the past, and you are very negative, overly-sensitive and offensive. Most of us have good days and bad, and lit is an opportunity to discuss it openly. However, judging from many of your comments, and your obvious hostility issues, it sounds like you need a good psychiatrist.
2 comments....

1. if you really didn't want to interrupt the "flow" of the thread, you would have addressed this in PM....

2. see #1
 
FrenchMustard said:
but it's fun to argue! Especially with someone your're dating, and especially about something unrelated to the two of you. It gets you worked up and not angry at the other person. :)

It's a fine line that is easily crossed. It'd be interestin to see what would happen with the friend if the convos took place in person. Unfortunately, due to his career, we only chat via phone. I'm curious to see what we'd talk about in person.

Is or should there be a difference in what is talked about via phone v. in person?
 
Gypsybyrd said:
It's a fine line that is easily crossed. It'd be interestin to see what would happen with the friend if the convos took place in person. Unfortunately, due to his career, we only chat via phone. I'm curious to see what we'd talk about in person.

Is or should there be a difference in what is talked about via phone v. in person?

I think there should be in some cases, especially if you don't know the person well. From text, to voice, to visual, there is more non-verbal information added that helps you understand and participate in the flow of discussion. Some "delicate" topics can be better discussed in a live format, simply because you have the most information available as to how the person is reacting/responding.

This being said, the better you know someone, the more you can add in the missing non-verbal during a text or vocal discussion.

Just my $0.02. :)

Lik
 
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