I'm so sick of people making excuses for terrorists

miles said:
Can you imagine if the "seek to understand why they hate us" crowd was around right after Pearl Harbor?

They were, Miles, but by that time Barbarossa had begun and their plangent wails to keep out of the European war were replaced overnight with demands for a "second front now!!" to save Mother Russia.
 
Gringao said:
They were, Miles, but by that time Barbarossa had begun and their plangent wails to keep out of the European war were replaced overnight with demands for a "second front now!!" to save Mother Russia.


If the Russkies had taken the time to try to understand the Germans, think of the lives that would have been saved!
 
miles said:
If the Russkies had taken the time to try to understand the Germans, think of the lives that would have been saved!

They did take time to understand them, buddy. They understood them so well they signed the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact agreeing to fuck over the Poles. Stalin's cozying up with Hitler was the green light Hitler needed to start WWII.
 
Speaking of squealing terrorism groupies, has anyone else been keeping track of the scandal at The Guardian and its hiring of a member of a Jew-hating Islamist group in Britain? What fun to watch that bunch squirm!
 
Gringao said:
Speaking of squealing terrorism groupies, has anyone else been keeping track of the scandal at The Guardian and its hiring of a member of a Jew-hating Islamist group in Britain? What fun to watch that bunch squirm!

I hadn't heard about that, but why are they squirming. From what I know of the Guardian, it seems to be in line with editorial policy.
 
Part of fighting an effective war is to know your enemy. I think we know them rather well at this point.
 
Ham Murabi said:
I hadn't heard about that, but why are they squirming. From what I know of the Guardian, it seems to be in line with editorial policy.

Ouch.

They hired a "trainee" named Dilpazier Aslam that turned out to be a writer for a rabidly Islamist group called Hiz ut-Tahir and put him on the terrorism beat without so much as mentioning that this guy thought the nail-bombers were pretty tuned-in guys.

When it was all exposed by a blogger, they refused to budge until the outcry became a flood. Then they gave the guy the choice of Guardian or Hiz ut-Tahir...and he chose the Islamist path.
 
Gringao said:
Ouch.

They hired a "trainee" named Dilpazier Aslam that turned out to be a writer for a rabidly Islamist group called Hiz ut-Tahir and put him on the terrorism beat without so much as mentioning that this guy thought the nail-bombers were pretty tuned-in guys.

When it was all exposed by a blogger, they refused to budge until the outcry became a flood. Then they gave the guy the choice of Guardian or Hiz ut-Tahir...and he chose the Islamist path.

I guess I should be heartened enough of The Guardian's readers cared.
 
I'm wondering where the reason is for these people to hate us. Is it oil exploitation? How can that be when they are the oil cartel. Is it Isreal? Have we become so fearful of these people that we are willing to turn over the Jews for another pogrom?

Or can the roots be found in the Holy Qu'ran itself and it's proscriptions against everyone that isn't a Muslim?

The breadth of knowledge exhibited on this board amazes me. The lack of depth astounds me.

Ishmael
 
LotusDreamer said:
Contrary to the Bush Admins. press releases the Iraqi insurgents and this latest wave of terrorism has very little, if anything to do with a threat or dislike for our values or bin Laden. These people could've cared less about us. Of course they thought we were a nation of greedy hypocrites, but they were not blowing our people up. What is happening today is because of the total voilation of treaties that ban infringing on sovereign nations.

Let me put it this way: The so called 'blue states' detest the Bush Admins., however if some foreign nation invaded our country under the guise of liberating us from his despotic rule (or any other guise, for that matter) we would all rise up as a nation to defeat this usurper.

That sort of thing just isn't done and America has a reputation for doing just that, when the mood suits us.

Besides, what is wrong with identifying the problems or underlying cause, I've always believed it is the only way to come up with an equitable solution for all involved. ??Es verdad???

Um, they bombed us first. HELLO!!!!!
 
miles said:
While these animals are murdering innocent men, women, and children, some of you act as though these sub-humans are "acting out" because of Iraq, oil, Jews, Israel, capitalism, and so on ad nauseum.

I can understand your frustration Miles. It must be difficult for a thinking American to rationalise American military personnel killing women and children in cold blood to protect AmeriKKKan corporations as they carpet-bag Iraqi oil and other resources. Meanwhile, some of these corporations are working scams on the U$ government that is paying them to provide logistic support the war.

The evidence from the regime in the White House has acknowledged that there was no WMD threat in Iraq at any time. Tony Blah in the UK has admitted going to war on a one page note that was sparse in detail.

So moral American citizens cannot justify this illegal, imperialist invasion and occuptaion of a sovereign country.

Additionally, they have had their civil rights removed by the Patriot Act and Home Defense Act under false pretences, by an elected totalitarian government modelled on the worst of the Nazi era.

Perhaps the worst consequence is that these same corporations pay no domestic tax in America on their income earned in Iraq. Thus the poor ole taxpayer cops the entire cost of the war and gets none of the benefits.

Ray Bradbury wrote this script in Fahrenheit 451.

Sadly, things don't get any better. It is time for the U$ to withdraw NOW from Iarq and pay billions of dollars in reparations for their illegal, and immoral actions. THAT is the only way that peace will be restored in Iraq. :)
 
miles said:
While these animals are murdering innocent men, women, and children, some of you act as though these sub-humans are "acting out" because of Iraq, oil, Jews, Israel, capitalism, and so on ad nauseum.

Shove it up your ass.

Agreed. Equating this murderous behavior to "Christian fundamentalism" is the great lie of the times.
 
woody54 said:
Funny, but I thought there were average people going about their jobs in places like Chile, Panama, Venuzuela, Iraq, Iran, etc when the CIA orchestra came to town and blood letting began.

And you know what - it wasnt so much to do with how they operated their governments but how someone else wanted it run to suit their interests. How you dont consider this terrorism is beyond me

Well said Woody!!

Reading many of these posts it appears that the American government is perfect in every way and their involvement in Central and South America didn't happen.

But even the memoiors of the CIA agents who took part in these covert operations to undermine sovereign governments have not been read by these Keyboard Warriors (Oberunderfuhrer Ishmael commanding). :)
 
How refreshing Donky Dyke, it was the CIA!

And original too!

I don't think I've ever heard anyone say that it was the CIA for weach and every fucking topic they choose to chime in on. You say CIA even more than Brinnie mouths off about free speech.

Global warming: CIA
American Imperialsim: CIA
African Slavery: CIA
European Recession: CIA
Russian Drunkeness: CIA
French Incompetence: CIA
Godzilla: CIA
Heaven's Gate, Ishtar: CIA
10 th planet uncloaked: CIA baybee!!!

:rolleyes:
 
I'm surprised Donkey didn't blame it on the Spidermen from Mars. What a tool.
 
They found a crater with ice and the rovers are en route to begin plowing.

Due to the low profile wheels selected by the brother in charge of wheel engineering at NAS[CI]A, they should be there in approximately 45.7 years and 16 hours, give or take a fag break or two...
 
miles said:
While these animals are murdering innocent men, women, and children, some of you act as though these sub-humans are "acting out" because of Iraq, oil, Jews, Israel, capitalism, and so on ad nauseum.

Shove it up your ass.
I havent checked the news, did they blow up anything today??
 
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