If it's misogyny and patriarchy when a man rapes or kills a woman...

[LJ_Reloaded]

... then what is it when a woman rapes or kills a woman?

First of all: there can be no further denials that many feminists - the less rational type, to be exact - claim that it is men’s responsibility to end rape. See the irrefutable photographic proof below.

Second of all: if we stop all men from raping, the irrefutable reality is we have not stopped rape. See the irrefutable proof below:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=bobwT0PH3GU

Lesbian-on-Lesbian Rape

How many of those rape kits include the DNA of another woman?

In April 2009, Melissa Huckaby, a Sunday-school teacher, was arraigned for the rape and murder of Sandra Cantu, an eight-year-old playmate of Huckaby’s own daughter in Tracy, Calif.
The murder itself was shocking—women represent only seven percent of murderers—but what stunned most was the rape. Many, including former Los Angeles prosecutor Marcia Clark asked, “How can a woman rape?”

If you just exploded into a rage or a name-calling fit because you saw my perfectly error-free facts, then you are not interested in stopping rape. You are only interested in vilifying men while ignoring the crimes that women suffer at the hands of other women - including rape and murder. You are okay with women raping and killing women because to address this issue is to accept that MEN CANNOT STOP RAPE.

If it’s misogyny and patriarchy when a man rapes or kills a woman, what is it when a woman rapes or kills a woman?

I look forward to your rage-filled tirades. Or perhaps a REAL feminist will step forward and answer that question rationally?

You're welcome.

 

[hobbit.]

... then what is it when a woman rapes or kills a woman?

it depends on whose turn it was to do the washing up. Otherwise it's a fairly neutral result.

 

[badbabysitter]

according to the US Bureau of Justice Statistics...

99% convicted of rape are male

and 1% are female

your article also states that only 7% of murderers are women


that would leave 93% being some other gender, one would think

plus multiple examples of women raping do occur... turn on the news.. teacher sleeping with a student?...guess what...that's rape

I tried desperately to find out where SFRCC stats were , but couldnt find anything at all.. even when they changed their names to SOLACE they still havent put up any stats or studies

I'm not saying that lesbian rape isnt a big problem...i just cant accept as gospel a single antecdote...even when they said despite its occurence in the lesbian community it is still a tiny fraction of rape crimes


I have had more than one client who has been fleeing a female stalker or abusive female partner... but the vast bulk have not been female... but that's also antecdotal




I know you're trying to encourage a debate... but you're also trying to de-legitamize the vast majority of rapes that are commited by men by blaming feminists

and yes, you are right, men cannot stop rape... but apparently they can stop 99% of it



isnt removing 99% of a problem a good idea????



if you were truly interested in stopping rape... you would ask yourself why are the vast majority of rapists men...and what can I do to shrink this number

but


you're not

it's the bitches fault

 

[LJ_Reloaded]

according to the US Bureau of Justice Statistics...

99% convicted of rape are male

and 1% are female

your article also states that only 7% of murderers are women


that would leave 93% being some other gender, one would think

plus multiple examples of women raping do occur... turn on the news.. teacher sleeping with a student?...guess what...that's rape

I tried desperately to find out where SFRCC stats were , but couldnt find anything at all.. even when they changed their names to SOLACE they still havent put up any stats or studies

I'm not saying that lesbian rape isnt a big problem...i just cant accept as gospel a single antecdote...even when they said despite its occurence in the lesbian community it is still a tiny fraction of rape crimes


I have had more than one client who has been fleeing a female stalker or abusive female partner... but the vast bulk have not been female... but that's also antecdotal




I know you're trying to encourage a debate... but you're also trying to de-legitamize the vast majority of rapes that are commited by men by blaming feminists

and yes, you are right, men cannot stop rape... but apparently they can stop 99% of it



isnt removing 99% of a problem a good idea????



if you were truly interested in stopping rape... you would ask yourself why are the vast majority of rapists men...and what can I do to shrink this number

but


you're not

it's the bitches fault

So instead of the simple slogan, "Teach people not to rape", you went into a long divisive tirade about how to put this on the shoulders of men. One response covered everything in 5 words, the other was a whole bunch of fingerpointing. I'll leave you to figure out which was which.

 

[badbabysitter]

No that is not what I did


you said the folloqwing

" See the irrefutable proof below"

"If you just exploded into a rage or a name-calling fit because you saw my perfectly error-free facts"


they were in fact not error free, nor was it irrefutable...they were antecdotal...they rang of truth, but were still speculative as I went onto explain

and please dont play the victim here... you directly insinuate that since women dont like being raped, they are cruel uncaring bitches when it comes to women commiting crimes...but you quoted an article written by women that appeared in a lesbian site.. so there are infact women that do care


men cannot stop rape alone, nor can women.. it has to be done together

I could say " teach people not to rape" , but you wouldnt get it.. and accuse me of some ploy to crush and undermine men


rape is a serious crime and needs to be adressed even more seriously

but we need to look at why there is such a monstrously disproportionate number of men that commit this crime...it's nota gender attack... but I'm trying to figure out why such a segment of human population is responsible for over 90% of the crime...

so in closing, i repeat myself

I know you're trying to encourage a debate... but you're also trying to de-legitamize the vast majority of rapes that are commited by men by blaming feminists

and yes, you are right, men cannot stop rape... but apparently they can stop 99% of it



isnt removing 99% of a problem a good idea????



if you were truly interested in stopping rape... you would ask yourself why are the vast majority of rapists men...and what can I do to shrink this number

 

[LJ_Reloaded]

and please dont play the victim here... you directly insinuate that since women dont like being raped, they are cruel uncaring bitches when it comes to women commiting crimes

No, what I outright said was that feminists say TELL MEN not to rape, but that doesn't solve the problem. That is all that I said. And it is totally true.

men cannot stop rape alone, nor can women.. it has to be done together

And THAT, folks, is the message.

I could say " teach people not to rape" , but you wouldnt get it.. and accuse me of some ploy to crush and undermine men

If you said that, you would end the entire debate - problem is, if you said that in public, you would get your ear blasted off by a rabid dog screaming "what do you mean, PEOPLE? MEN DO ALL THE RAPES#!!#!1111!!#!##!!!!"

but we need to look at why there is such a monstrously disproportionate number of men that commit this crime...it's nota gender attack... but I'm trying to figure out why such a segment of human population is responsible for over 90% of the crime...

Hint: it's not because of men. It's because of our society's inability to get over our animalistic desire for dominance and our need to terrorize others, or go as far as we need to go to get satisfaction (in this case, sexual).

While you're telling people not to rape, also tell them not to rob, murder, or vote Republican.

You're dealing with human animal nature here, not just men. You've got a lot of feminists out there who don't realize that, and when they hear it, they will argue you into the dirt over it.

Let me just break it to you plainly: if you build a machine that zaps every male rapist off the face of the Earth, a lot of ADDITIONAL females will come out to fill in the gap.

I know you're trying to encourage a debate... but you're also trying to de-legitamize the vast majority of rapes that are commited by men by blaming feminists

Not feminists, IGNORANCE. And hypocrisy, too.

and yes, you are right, men cannot stop rape... but apparently they can stop 99% of it

You underestimate how many women rapists there are. Let's start with the pedophiles.

 

[badbabysitter]

If you said that, you would end the entire debate - problem is, if you said that in public, you would get your ear blasted off by a rabid dog screaming "what do you mean, PEOPLE? MEN DO ALL THE RAPES#!!#!1111!!#!##!!!!"

Actually, I have.. when I first got into my line of work the first place I worked at was gender bullshit central... a majority of lesbian women very angry at men..it was a fucking nightmare , and I jumped ship at my very first chance

those kinds of arguements were very commonplace with me having to be civil for fear of losing my job..yeah, it was that bad

Hint: it's not because of men. It's because of our society's inability to get over our animalistic desire for dominance and our need to terrorize others, or go as far as we need to go to get satisfaction (in this case, sexual).



While you're telling people not to rape, also tell them not to rob, murder, or vote Republican.

You're dealing with human animal nature here, not just men. You've got a lot of feminists out there who don't realize that, and when they hear it, they will argue you into the dirt over it.



Let me just break it to you plainly: if you build a machine that zaps every male rapist off the face of the Earth, a lot of ADDITIONAL females will come out to fill in the gap.

I'm not entirely certain I can fully agree with that.. cases of rape have dropped and are continuing to drop in numbers over the last 20 years.. the message is getting through

but I do feel it still has alot to do with how we are raised to fit gender roles still

I mean shit...have you ever watched Disney? that shit tells little girls to be the entitled bitches you hate so much.. and parents still think it's a great idea to feed them that bullshit

boys get it nearly as bad too...sports and babes and people telling them the only way to validate themselves is with outward acheivements; big house, nice car, beautiful wife, fat wallet, yadda yadda

one thing I learned in theatre always rung a bell with mne

there are two emotions women and men are taught not to express

women can't be mad, men can't express grief...they're cultural taboos almost universally

I dont believe that our animal instincts should lie at the excuse of our crimes.. there are lots of things that were once completely kosher which are simply not abided nowadays, things we argued even then were just part of human nature

You underestimate how many women rapists there are. Let's start with the pedophiles.

perhaps I am, but there is nothing to support that,, even the opening article is antecdotal...one can just easily say you're underestimating the number of gay rapists out there

as for the pedophile thing.. women certainly are making more news in that sickening department, but one could also say men still have that market dominated too...I'm not trying to validate women doing such.. but I'm also not going to let it be a platform for discussing how bad women are when men have just as bad a reason for being on that podium

 

[kbate]

isnt removing 99% of a problem a good idea????

if you were truly interested in stopping rape... you would ask yourself why are the vast majority of rapists men...and what can I do to shrink this number

Not good enough, you MUST focus on the 1% of rape committed by women - and of course the bureau of Justice Statistics is wrong, it is more like 50% and they are being run by feminists.

 

[badbabysitter]

Not good enough, you MUST focus on the 1% of rape committed by women - and of course the bureau of Justice Statistics is wrong, it is more like 50% and they are being run by feminists.

you saw us being civil and just had to stir the pot, didnt you

 

[LJ_Reloaded]

Actually, I have.. when I first got into my line of work the first place I worked at was gender bullshit central... a majority of lesbian women very angry at men..it was a fucking nightmare , and I jumped ship at my very first chance

those kinds of arguements were very commonplace with me having to be civil for fear of losing my job..yeah, it was that bad

Thing is, lots of guys run into this same anti-male shit off of the reservation.

I'm not a counselor but I know there are a lot of equally abused, alienated and angry men out there who need counseling, badly. They got beaten with a frying pan in an argument and the cops hauled them away instead of her, she took half his shit in a divorce and he's got an arrest record now so his job prospects are shit... assuming he gets acquitted. Oh and now he's also homeless while she's living with a new boyfriend in the house he broke his back to earn. What do you think is going to come of that? He's not going to be a feminist, I'll tell you that much.

The angry women that you dealt with, suffered some equivalent misery at the hands of men. You don't just get angry like that for no reason.

Since you're being so frank here, let's just lay it all out. In one sentence: the issue here is that they all need serious counseling, and society itself needs to be put on meta-trial.

I'm not entirely certain I can fully agree with that.. cases of rape have dropped and are continuing to drop in numbers over the last 20 years.. the message is getting through

but I do feel it still has alot to do with how we are raised to fit gender roles still

Can you smell the weed in the air? We're agreeing. I'm about to size you a tie-dye, LOL.

I mean shit...have you ever watched Disney? that shit tells little girls to be the entitled bitches you hate so much.. and parents still think it's a great idea to feed them that bullshit

I can't stand Disney for that, but I hate them more for the way they kill off the mothers so much, supposedly for dramatic effect. I mean, WTF, first of all that is highly misogynistic considering its nearly unbroken pattern. For you to understand me, you need to understand that this, alone, is highly offensive to me, and always has been.

That is before we get to Disney's apparent assumption that losing one's father isn't a devastating or motivating factor in a child's life. If Bambi's or Nemo's dad died it wouldn't have ended so well, for all the psychological mumbo jumbo bullshit that one can come up with. WTF, really? Yeah, no Disney in my household.

boys get it nearly as bad too...sports and babes and people telling them the only way to validate themselves is with outward acheivements; big house, nice car, beautiful wife, fat wallet, yadda yadda

And if they are rich they can buy whatever woman they want. Which means when you are a woman and you get too old, well, TRADE IN!!! (Literotica could do well to add a facepalm smiley for when the rolling of the eyes just doesn't quite say it...) I hate seeing this happen to someone because I hate seeing human beings thrown away like that.

one thing I learned in theatre always rung a bell with mne

there are two emotions women and men are taught not to express

women can't be mad, men can't express grief...they're cultural taboos almost universally

Those restrictions rhyme well with the glass ceiling and the glass floor.

I dont believe that our animal instincts should lie at the excuse of our crimes.. there are lots of things that were once completely kosher which are simply not abided nowadays, things we argued even then were just part of human nature

I believe in exceeding our animal natures. Hence my disdain for capitalism in favor of a more cooperative socioeconomic model which humanity has yet to give a name to. (But I see its roots in open source.)

perhaps I am, but there is nothing to support that,, even the opening article is antecdotal...one can just easily say you're underestimating the number of gay rapists out there

as for the pedophile thing.. women certainly are making more news in that sickening department, but one could also say men still have that market dominated too...I'm not trying to validate women doing such.. but I'm also not going to let it be a platform for discussing how bad women are when men have just as bad a reason for being on that podium

I do not ever see society evolving a witch hunt level fear of women rapists or pedophiles, where women are kicked out of seats or excluded from teaching jobs because Schrodinger's Pedophile or whatever. So I really don't see the damage that could be done by discussing women's involvement in rape (forcible or statutory).

The worst I ever see happening is society going, "Oh wait, anyone could be a rapist. Maybe we should see why this keeps popping up in human nature?"

I'd see that as a good thing.

Oh and here's your toke...

 

[kbate]

you saw us being civil and just had to stir the pot, didnt you

No, not that at all. I just so enjoy watching you, the eternal optimist, attempt again and again to break through the wall of rage that is LT and his psychosis.

It lifts me to know that after all these years, you still see hope for him, despite nearly every other person on this board having written him off as a future Texas Tower candidate.

Humankind may not be such a waste after all.

 

[pointless]

i once watched she stole my voice. it kinda gave me a boner.

and by kinda i mean it totally gave me a boner.

is that wrong?

and the instructional totally not porn scenes, i mean. not the interviews. even i think that would be super weird.