If anyone can bring peace to the Middle East, it's

There's nothing to discuss, of course. Hasn't anyone noticed? All U.S. presidents sponsor a Middle East peace initiative in the last year of their terms. They do this because more than half of them receive Nobel Peace Prizes for doing it. None of the peace initiatives go anywhere. It's all just a traditional thing they do in pursuit of a medal. This time they didn't even invite the functional "other side." They couldn't have been any more cynical about it if they'd tried real hard.
 
I thought Tony Blair had been given the job of peace envoy to the Middle East... bit ironic considering he was the one who took us to war in the first place...

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Vermilion said:
I thought Tony Blair had been given the job of peace envoy to the Middle East... bit ironic considering he was the one who took us to war in the forst place...

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You've got your wars of conflicts mixed up. This one isn't about Iraq; it's about Palestine--and unless Blair is a contemporary of Abraham's, he wasn't around for the start of this one.
 
I've been waiting to see how the Bush-haters would spin this as a bad thing.
 
Carnevil9 said:
I've been waiting to see how the Bush-haters would spin this as a bad thing.

Predictable as ever. :rolleyes:

eta: instead of bashing everyone for hating Bush, please enlighten us to what he's done right?

Just one thing would work.
 
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Peace is not gonna happen there. Strife is their chief amusement and industry. Because the powerful will not share the oil wealth, and the youngsters need shit to keep them busy.
 
JAMESBJOHNSON said:
Peace is not gonna happen there. Strife is their chief amusement and industry. Because the powerful will not share the oil wealth, and the youngsters need shit to keep them busy.

Indeed.
 
sr71plt said:
You've got your wars of conflicts mixed up. This one isn't about Iraq; it's about Palestine--and unless Blair is a contemporary of Abraham's, he wasn't around for the start of this one.


Blair has still been made peace envoy to the Middle East. He also still sent our troops to war. I just find it ironic - whether it;s the same war or not.
 
cloudy said:
Predictable as ever. :rolleyes:

eta: instead of bashing everyone for hating Bush, please enlighten us to what he's done right?

Just one thing would work.

He cut my taxes. I liked that.

The left keeps pouring millions into welfare. It never works, but they care about people, so it's okay. The left keeps supporting "equal opportunity" laws and quotas. It never changes anything, but that's okay, it shows that they care about people.

Bush, however, doesn't care about people; he's just angling for an award. The double standard is deafening.
 
sr71plt said:
There's nothing to discuss, of course. Hasn't anyone noticed? All U.S. presidents sponsor a Middle East peace initiative in the last year of their terms. They do this because more than half of them receive Nobel Peace Prizes for doing it. None of the peace initiatives go anywhere. It's all just a traditional thing they do in pursuit of a medal. This time they didn't even invite the functional "other side." They couldn't have been any more cynical about it if they'd tried real hard.

They don't win prizes, but they might get nominations.

I think the only times the Middle East has ever been at peace for any llength of time was during the heydays of the Roman Empire and the Ottoman Empire. Then, it was because one nation ruled the whole place, and the value of oil wasn't as high as it is now.
 
Bush isnt Kerry! That thought always makes me feel better.

He isnt Al Gore!

And he pisses the Left off so bad his moronics are worth the price.
 
Carnevil9 said:
He cut my taxes. I liked that.

The left keeps pouring millions into welfare. It never works, but they care about people, so it's okay. The left keeps supporting "equal opportunity" laws and quotas. It never changes anything, but that's okay, it shows that they care about people.

Bush, however, doesn't care about people; he's just angling for an award. The double standard is deafening.

One thing that's good for the country as a whole, not just good for you.

It's okay, I'll wait.
 
cloudy said:
One thing that's good for the country as a whole, not just good for you.

It's okay, I'll wait.

What, I have to make YOU happy, too? Who makes up these rules? No thanks. I suspect you are too biased to please anyway.
 
Carnevil9 said:
I've been waiting to see how the Bush-haters would spin this as a bad thing.

That's the beauty of it! Nobody has to spin anything where you people are concerned. Your failures speak volumes.

If you read books, even books by fellow conservatives, you would know that one of the first things your boy did when he hosted a cabinet meeting was dismiss the Palestinian issue as "irrelevent." Colin Powell strenuously objected; it was essential, he believed, for the United States to maintain peace discussions in order to maintain balance in an otherwise volatile region. It was the first of many times that Bush-Cheney would ignore Colin Powell and anyone else with a brain, and plunge ahead with their own doomsday agenda.

A bad thing? Not at all. The fact that Bush is a tad late to the party, and has less credibility in the Middle East than my cocker spaniel, makes it a silly thing. A ridiculous thing. An embarrassing thing. A pointless thing. A pathetic thing. Since you like this president, you probably like being pathetic. So it's all good.
 
Carnevil9 said:
What, I have to make YOU happy, too? Who makes up these rules? No thanks. I suspect you are too biased to please anyway.

Didn't think you could come up with one.

Oh, "he cut taxes, that's good for me!" and bankrupt the entire country to do it. What a wonderful president. :rolleyes:
 
Carnevil9 said:
What, I have to make YOU happy, too? Who makes up these rules? No thanks. I suspect you are too biased to please anyway.

Apparently, you make up the rules. You demand those of us who think the current President is an incompetent fool to cite evidence that proves him so. And ignore it when we do. But you feel no obligation to cite evidence to prove your belief.
 
Carnevil9 said:
I've been waiting to see how the Bush-haters would spin this as a bad thing.
I don't hate Bush.
I just find the timing of his sudden interest highly amusing. That, and the fact I think he has less than a snowball's chance in hell of making any worthwhile progress when many others, better informed others, have failed.
 
Carnevil9 said:
He cut my taxes. I liked that.
He didn't cut shit, he postponed taxes and borrowed the money he needed. Sadly, many like you are too naive to see that that is not going to come back and bite you in the ass a few years down the line. With interrest. And then you'll blame the sitting government for raising taxes to deal with the problem.
 
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starrkers said:
I don't hate Bush.
I just find the timing of his sudden interest highly amusing. That, and the fact I think he has less than a snowball's chance in hell of making any worthwhile progress when many others, better informed others, have failed.

God is on his side. And the purest example of God's beneficence, capitalism, as well. ;)
 
Anyhoo...

In theory, if anyone can bring peace to the Middle East, it is indeed President George W. Bush. At least until you guys get another president. Because it's the only office with enough weight to throw around to affect anything. Granted, that is only if he happens to do everything just right. Ahem.
 
JAMESBJOHNSON said:
Bush isnt Kerry! That thought always makes me feel better.

He isnt Al Gore!

And he pisses the Left off so bad his moronics are worth the price.

I like your AV! Krusty rules.

You also spell like a pro. Practically flawless. That's two things.

An art director I used to work with had a complete set of talking Simpsons figures that say different things depending on where you sit them down in the Springfield set (not included). Sit Krusty down stood in the convenience store set, and he'd say, "Man! Just look at all this crap with my face on it."

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Liar said:
He didn't cut shit, he postponed taxes and borrowed the money he needed.

You have a problem with owing China and Saudi Arabia a few hundred billion dollars? Why? They seem nice enough.
 
blow the motherfuckers up and when the dust settles it will be very peaceful!
 
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