I totally submit,...

[artful]

...to the following quote of Laurel. I hope that ALL can see the *TRUTH* in what she has said.

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I'm not going to get involved in this...but I do want to make one point, and this is
directed at everyone involved and not involved:

This forum is YOUR forum. Each one of you have the power to make it what
you want it to be. And each one of you is responsible for what it is and/or
isn't.

All over the web and in real life, there will be people you don't get along with,
people you don't agree with, people who annoy the hell out of you. You can deal
with these people in one of two ways: you can spend your life complaining about
them, or you can let them be them. You can work yourself into a tizzy over
something you have no control over, or you can go do something more pleasant.

In situations like these, there tends to be a lot of finger-pointing. So-and-so is an
ass who is ruining the forum. No, it's suchandsuch - he's the real jerk who makes
this place suck. But when it comes right down to it, we all make out choices on
what we choose to do and how much fun we choose to have.

If we come here and spend all our time complaining about someone or something
we don't like, then we have no right to be shocked when the board is nothing but
flames and complaints.

If instead we come here and start threads about BDSM-related concerns, answer
questions that newbies might have, and contribute positively to the forum, the
forum will grow.

It's all up to you - each and every one of you. YOU are the ones with the power
to shape this place. It's YOURS. Bend it to YOUR needs. Start topics that YOU
want to see. Make it a place you're proud to be a part of.

That's all. And now, back to our regularly scheduled flames...

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[~Dream~]

way to go baby !!!

curls down at my Master's feet and watches Him with PRIDE!!

 

[Daddyslilpet]

Art I hope and pray that everyone will at least read Laurel's words and try.

My oath right here right now, is to continue the discuss of BDSM related topics to enhance the learning atmosphere here. I also vow to do my best to act like the adult I am, stopping to take a deep breath or walk away, before adding to any wars. I further vow that I will learn and have fun, but not at the expense of someone else's learning experience.

Thank you for this thread Art.

~smiles~
dixi

 

[artful]

Dixi

Art I hope and pray that everyone will at least read Laurel's words and try.

My oath right here right now, is to continue the discuss of BDSM related topics to enhance the learning atmosphere here. I also vow to do my best to act like the adult I am, stopping to take a deep breath or walk away, before adding to any wars. I further vow that I will learn and have fun, but not at the expense of someone else's learning experience.

Thank you for this thread Art.

~smiles~
dixi

Thanks for your post. Yes,...that is why I started this thread,...I hope ALL will take the opportunity of reading her words of wisdom.

 

[cellis]

Thank you Art for taking the time to Laurel's oh so very wise words.

I have been trying to say that same thing for months but just haven't been able to find the right words.

I am not leaving and I am not joining in all this mud slinging.

As I said on another post, I will only read those threads that have an interest to me and post to them.

Regardless of the fact that this is a porn site or not, I have always considered this forum to have educational value and I think that we each have a responsibility to make this forum what we want it to be.

 

[MissTaken]

Here is a plan

The people who are upset by how the board looks these days stop posting to the people who are messing up the board.


Then, don't start any more threads about the board's atmosphere.


Let's see what happens.

Just a thought....


And I own it.

 

["angel" eve]

thank you laurel

this is what i believe. and the rules i do attempt to follow

 

[FdiskIt]

I agree with Artful

Let us all take Laurel's advice.

 

[artful]

cellis

[BI am not leaving and I am not joining in all this mud slinging. [/B]

I agree with your sentiments cellis. The Forum to ME, is a collection of individuals mostly of whom have like-minded interests.

As Laurel, and others have stated, we the majority will shape it as best suits our mentalities. It is our responsibility, to govern our own actions, our own posts.

There have been times I have RESPONDED to flaming, and I am not proud of it, but I do not wish to prolong such events, by posting to the continuous onslaught of barbs.

It's difficult for any of us to not defend our friends, and JUMP to their support, but in truth, that is really the BEST way to douse the FLAMES.

(JMHO),...but it's mine,...and I own it.

 

[artful]

Re: Here is a plan

The people who are upset by how the board looks these days stop posting to the people who are messing up the board.

Then, don't start any more threads about the board's atmosphere.

Let's see what happens.

Just a thought....

And I own it.

MissT,...I think it's a good plan, but I think we also need to keep in mind. It is WE, the regular posters here, who are at fault.

WE,...tend to BLAME one person or another, for "messing up the board". It is not THEY,...who mess it up,...it is WE,...the regular posters, who give them the 'gas' to do it.

Unregistereds don't do it, casual posters of FLAMING posts don't do it, trolls don't do it. It is WE,...who do it.

Sure a post can "spark", and strike a nerve, but if the offensive post is not responded to by ~US~, it will not erupt into FLAMES.

(JMHO),...but it's mine,...and I own it.

 

[A Desert Rose]

Re: Re: Here is a plan

Sure a post can "spark", and strike a nerve, but if the offensive post is not responded to by ~US~, it will not erupt into FLAMES.

(JMHO),...but it's mine,...and I own it.

And in this case, why can't it be taken up privately with those involved instead of dragged out on the board for all to watch?

If one disagrees or is offended, why can't it be ignored or taken up in a PM?

Rose

 

[artful]

ADR

And in this case, why can't it be taken up privately with those involved instead of dragged out on the board for all to watch?

If one disagrees or is offended, why can't it be ignored or taken up in a PM?

Rose

Point well taken Rose, it's the URGE to respond PUBLICLY that overcomes US. This is a constant lure. WE,...want to SHOW to the PUBLIC,...our opinion. WE,...want to JUSTIFY our position, or that of one of our friends,...PUBLICLY.

 

[cellis]

In the past I have always urged those participating in the flame throwing to take it off the board.

I personally find all this crap upsetting. I can't find anything when the whole board is taken up with things that have nothing to do with bdsm and every thing to do with personalities.

I for one, think everyone has the right to post what they want. However, and I have stated this several times in the past, please think about how what you post affects others.

There is no need to be ugly or to bring personalities into it. If you have something to say, do it privately. I don't what to know that X thinks Z is an asshole etc...

I just want to hear what others have to say about bdsm and I want to share what I know. I am leaving the rest for now.

 

[A Desert Rose]

Re: ADR

Point well taken Rose, it's the URGE to respond PUBLICLY that overcomes US. This is a constant lure. WE,...want to SHOW to the PUBLIC,...our opinion. WE,...want to JUSTIFY our position, or that of one of our friends,...PUBLICLY.

Two times in the last week issues have been brought to the board, regarding me, that could have been easily rectified in a PM. The only way I can read that is those 2 people wanted to embarrass me, publically.

So be it. But that's not how I play ball.

Rose