I saw a Dominatrix on Jerry Springer,

[Ms_Lilith]

and she was an embarrasment to all Dominants and Tops out there. She was mean, and rude, and she tried to dominate everyone around her, yelling and screaming, and threatening, rather than carry herself as a powerful person who didn't need to say a word. She was incredibly beautiful, and a large woman, but she just.. she tried to bully people, and I just don't see Dominants as bullies. I see a Dom/me as someone who knows that they hold power, and doesn't need to advertise it (but can should they choose), and who chooses to dominate only those who submit to the domination. Maybe I'm wrong.

She just seemed like such a farce compared with the honourable ideal of Dom/me I had in my head.

Am I wrong? (most of you probably didn't see the episode, but based on my description, what is your opinion?)

 

[lilredwolph]

all i can say is, it was jerry springer were you really expecting somebody that carried themselves well?

 

[Ms_Lilith]

lol.. yeah yeah yeah.. it was on at like, 1 am my time, and honey was on the computer, and I didn't feel like reading, so I channel surfed. I heard the title 'Dominatrix' and got stuck.

Like I said, it's a pity, cus she was so beautiful until she opened her mouth.

 

[bunny bondage]

that show is entirely staged and i wouldn't be suprised if the "domme" wasn't really just a regular 'nilla woman.

 

[lorddragonwolf]

no self respecting dom/me would go on springer. the show is good for a few laughs.

 

[MissTaken]

Well, I am going to interject that the media is going to focus on Doms and Domme's who rule the world in their leather garb.

Why?

Ratings!

The soft spoken Dom who is well versed in pain as an erotic tool as opposed to torture, isn't going to get ratings. Especially if he is a school teacher, a doctor or someone who conducts themselves respectfully toward others.

I was with such a Dom when I watched this Toronto based television program. We chuckled at the antics of the leather clad Doms and the sassy, harlot looking subbies all playing the game of "Who can beat who harder?"

Now, I am not knocking anyone who enjoys the lifestyle from that pespective, but do believe the media has much to do with the stigma attached to BDSM.

I will be curious to see where this discussion goes.

 

[bunny bondage]

i agree with you, MissT, nobody is interested in the plain every-day life of a normal dom/me. what catches the eye is the extreme, the outrageous, and the media has no problem at all playing on this.

 

[lark sparrow]

It's the jerry springer show

Everyone who appears on that show regardless of topic is an embarrassment in one way or another - it's a show based on the ridiculous, a spectacle - that's the draw.

 

[Ebonyfire]

and she was an embarrasment to all Dominants and Tops out there. She was mean, and rude, and she tried to dominate everyone around her, yelling and screaming, and threatening, rather than carry herself as a powerful person who didn't need to say a word. She was incredibly beautiful, and a large woman, but she just.. she tried to bully people, and I just don't see Dominants as bullies. I see a Dom/me as someone who knows that they hold power, and doesn't need to advertise it (but can should they choose), and who chooses to dominate only those who submit to the domination. Maybe I'm wrong.

She just seemed like such a farce compared with the honourable ideal of Dom/me I had in my head.

Am I wrong? (most of you probably didn't see the episode, but based on my description, what is your opinion?)

I know some Dommes who have been on TV but not on talk shows. They acquitted themselves well, but they were not on inflammatory TV, which is what Jerry Springer is.

It is just his way of getting ratings, and she probably wanted the free trip and all the perks associated with it.

I do not feel embarrassed by it. If people want to think badly of BDSM they will do so Jerrry Springer or not.

Eb

 

[rosco rathbone]

Also of re(a)lated interest:

How long will it be before we see a straight male dominate/top/whatever on public major media?

 

[lark sparrow]

Also of re(a)lated interest:

How long will it be before we see a straight male dominate/top/whatever on public major media?

Aside from 'Alpha males'?

We do, but only when they fit the most extreme stereotypes and fears... usually in the form of psychopaths collecting murdered submissive women in barrels they've met and seduced on the Internet.

Thought Howard Stern was your boy.

 

[rosco rathbone]

Aside from 'Alpha males'?

We do, but only when they fit the most extreme stereotypes and fears... usually in the form of psychopaths collecting murdered submissive women in barrels they've met and seduced on the Internet.

Thought Howard Stern was your boy.

Yer dead-on about the xtream stereotypes.

Howard Stern is a gnome. I am interested in gnomes.

What do I know of alpha males and such?

 

[rosco rathbone]

Aside from 'Alpha males'?

We do, but only when they fit the most extreme stereotypes and fears... usually in the form of psychopaths collecting murdered submissive women in barrels they've met and seduced on the Internet.

Thought Howard Stern was your boy.

I just realized you have a @@#$^% Michael Parkes image as your "AV". I used to work for his exclusive USA dealer as an arthandler. It was a fucking Liberace headshop nightmare. It almost made me homo.....what's the Greek for hatred?

 

[lark sparrow]

I just realized you have a @@#$^% Michael Parkes image as your "AV". I used to work for his exclusive USA dealer as an arthandler. It was a fucking Liberace headshop nightmare. It almost made me homo.....what's the Greek for hatred?

That's a shame.

 

[rosco rathbone]

That's a shame.

I tell you that place left a bad taste in my mouth.

By your comment about alpha males, did you mean something along the same lines as "We don't need Men's Studies programs, history is Men's Studies".? I am guessing you did, food for thought though of course I disagree with you.

 

[lark sparrow]

I tell you that place left a bad taste in my mouth.

By your comment about alpha males, did you mean something along the same lines as "We don't need Men's Studies programs, history is Men's Studies".? I am guessing you did, food for thought though of course I disagree with you.

No, not entirely, but yes partially, more specifically along the lines of there being no lack of male dominance in the media. As for studies, I'd be interested in mens studies which detailed fresh and previously unexplored areas, particularly if it was not rigidly stereotypical. In my women's studies along with more radical feminist thought I was also exposed to seeing women who do fit into the more tradtionally feminine stereotypes or roles as people of depth and value as well. I'm not sure I would say history is men's studies, though it is certainly focused on and written by the dominant culture of it's time.