I hate Protestants, and I'm not sure why.
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brokenbrainwave
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so a war over tribal factions is ok, but a war in the name of some God is bad?ozraven said:
But at least we would skip the war over which god should have the honor of the sacrifice.......
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Re: Give us all a fucking break, everybody knows...
Sparky.....
There are Black Catholics,Have you ever been to any large city in Texas? Spanish and Black and White Catholics exist in a very public way.
Only whites know how to use a computer or write?
Then WTF am I? I'm half. Badasschick? and a few others? WTF are they?
Perhaps its time for you to go easy on the Liquor man.
This is the ONLY time I'm going to say this nicely.
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Sparky.....
There are Black Catholics,Have you ever been to any large city in Texas? Spanish and Black and White Catholics exist in a very public way.
Only whites know how to use a computer or write?
Then WTF am I? I'm half. Badasschick? and a few others? WTF are they?
Perhaps its time for you to go easy on the Liquor man.
This is the ONLY time I'm going to say this nicely.
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coming from the west of Scotlland - there is a huge sectarianism problem I can understand the roots of this thinking
I grew up in my early years in a segregrated society - but a the time it seemed normal - looking back now I just cant see why society breeds this sort of problem, especialy the church which is supposed to be above bigotry
You just have to visit parts of Belfast to see where this problem has lead.
Ever since Henry VIII declared England a protestant country ( in order to get a quickie divorce) the two religions have been at loggerheads
If Charles today were to marry a Catholic - he would have to renounce his rights to be King - which shows you how institutionalised this is.
I know many a family that have split just because one of the family want to marry someone of the opposite divide
All Bollocks as far as I am concerned
I grew up in my early years in a segregrated society - but a the time it seemed normal - looking back now I just cant see why society breeds this sort of problem, especialy the church which is supposed to be above bigotry
You just have to visit parts of Belfast to see where this problem has lead.
Ever since Henry VIII declared England a protestant country ( in order to get a quickie divorce) the two religions have been at loggerheads
If Charles today were to marry a Catholic - he would have to renounce his rights to be King - which shows you how institutionalised this is.
I know many a family that have split just because one of the family want to marry someone of the opposite divide
All Bollocks as far as I am concerned
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I feel this way as well. I'm not confused about it, I come from a recently immigrated Irish Catholic family who are very vocal in their dislike of Protestants.
In fairness, this is the equiv of a Native American saying "You know, I don't think whitey has been a great pal these last few hundred years"
My wife's alright, for a protestant.
In fairness, this is the equiv of a Native American saying "You know, I don't think whitey has been a great pal these last few hundred years"
My wife's alright, for a protestant.
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BAH!
Sure most Protestants are repressed stick-in-the-muds but everyone's hands are dirty here...
Throughout history both Protestants and Catholics have taken their turn at going heel.
Hello indulgences anyone?!?
Remember Martin Luther--man of the people?
When the Catholic Church was selling remission from Purgatory for gold (lol!), good 'ol Martin Luther flipped out posted his 95 theses on the Wittenburg Church.
We remember that little move as the Reformation now hehe—A somewhat pivotal moment in the reconciliation between organized religion and actual morality (strange link there!)...
I could spend another 1000 words telling you crappy things the Church of England did too without even touching on the asshole Puritans and their genocidal tendencies.
(btw I’m indifferent about this issue totally, this post was just meant to make you think I’m smart)
Sure most Protestants are repressed stick-in-the-muds but everyone's hands are dirty here...
Throughout history both Protestants and Catholics have taken their turn at going heel.
Hello indulgences anyone?!?
Remember Martin Luther--man of the people?
When the Catholic Church was selling remission from Purgatory for gold (lol!), good 'ol Martin Luther flipped out posted his 95 theses on the Wittenburg Church.
We remember that little move as the Reformation now hehe—A somewhat pivotal moment in the reconciliation between organized religion and actual morality (strange link there!)...
I could spend another 1000 words telling you crappy things the Church of England did too without even touching on the asshole Puritans and their genocidal tendencies.
(btw I’m indifferent about this issue totally, this post was just meant to make you think I’m smart)
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LOL calm down, you did not. I was kidding.ozraven said:I am trying to spot where I said that..........
Friendly rivalry is healthy.......war is not......
Most conflicts in recorded history have been started over religion or religous based beliefs.
brokenbrainwave
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nope, I was merely preparing you for the endless word twisting that goes on here.ozraven said:
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Cuckolded_BlK_Male said:
My parents were raised in a place where every village was divided; separate schools, neighborhoods, stores, even the same last names were spelled differently to denote Cath/Prot adherence.
Consequently, I was raised with a healthy mistrust of the heirarchy and teaching of the Roman Catholic church.
Not a hatred...but a hardwired sense that catholics are narrow minded lemmings who do and believe what they are told.
That sense of the collective versus the individual's control over one's life is still rooted in much of Canada and the way it is organized both socially and politically.
Catholics have tended to vote Liberal, which means more government intervention and social control; Protestants tend to vote Conservative, which means less state control generally.
Quebec, for example, is still to some degree "governed" by its Roman Catholic roots, which are stronger there in terms of social power than anywhere else in Canada....hence the Separation Debate.
Onratio by contrast, is almost totally WASP in its power base...hence the continued friction between Toronto & Montreal for supremacy in everything from # of corporate head offices, to sports teams, to nitelife, to attractive women, culture, shopping, etc etc etc.
In the US, Catholics don't get to be in power anyway, so US society has compartmentalized Roman Catholicism away from secular power, with Protestants running everything.
Those are my thoughts.
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Interesting article in The Atlantic a few months ago suggests that Protestants and northern hemisphere Catholics both are in for a big surprise, as a more fundamentalist Catholicism grows more popular in the southern hemisphere.
The next Christianity
Interesting article in The Atlantic a few months ago suggests that Protestants and northern hemisphere Catholics both are in for a big surprise, as a more fundamentalist Catholicism grows more popular in the southern hemisphere.
The next Christianity
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Protestantism is just about as repressive and narrow-minded as a faith can get... in American practice. Remember, the protestants that first landed on the east coast of north america were fringe protestants, mostly....fuckin' anarchist wackos, many.
Core protestant values as originally articulated by Luther and others pre-america are quite libertarian and individually-oriented in their application to daily living...but are more midstream as compared to either hardcore RC cluster values or fundamentalist protestant individualism.
LionessInWinter said:This post confuses me--maybe it's a dif twixt Canada and the US, but if you dislike US policies and the Protestants are running everything...??
Haven't you spoken of Americans as narrowminded? Our roots are deeply Protestant.
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Protestantism is just about as repressive and narrow-minded as a faith can get... in American practice. Remember, the protestants that first landed on the east coast of north america were fringe protestants, mostly....fuckin' anarchist wackos, many.
Core protestant values as originally articulated by Luther and others pre-america are quite libertarian and individually-oriented in their application to daily living...but are more midstream as compared to either hardcore RC cluster values or fundamentalist protestant individualism.
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Sure was... Was a problem for him too.
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Sure was... Was a problem for him too.
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Hanns_Schmidt said:
Double-tap behind the ear with a .22?
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Oh yeah it was a big problem that he was Catholic and Boston Catholic to boot.
His father was an infamous bootlegger don't forget, so his opponents painted him as a genetic paragon of moral decadence.
Was both good and bad for American Catholics.
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Oh yeah it was a big problem that he was Catholic and Boston Catholic to boot.
His father was an infamous bootlegger don't forget, so his opponents painted him as a genetic paragon of moral decadence.
Was both good and bad for American Catholics.
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The first and only Catholic President.....bang, bang, bang.
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The first and only Catholic President.....bang, bang, bang.
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There is a difference between believing that you're right and believing that you're superior. I think the problem with many religions is that they've turned the first into the second.
Having said that, as a Baptist, our nemeses were the Catholics. I couldn't honestly tell you why that was so, except to say that we were Baptists in an area replete with Catholic churches. It seemed that if we were to make any headway at all, it would be by chiseling into the centuries of entrenchment the Catholics here had. But as I grew older I found that most Catholics where I live, much like most Baptists and nearly everyone else, don't really practice the religion. They just go to church maybe once a week, then use that to call themselves religious. Religion isn't about pomp and circumstance, it's about beliefs and living by them.
There is one thing I've noticed, though. Have you ever met a "casual Mormon"? I haven't. Say what you will about them (and, as I think about it, Jehovah's Witnesses, too), but they don't half-ass their religious beliefs.
Having said that, as a Baptist, our nemeses were the Catholics. I couldn't honestly tell you why that was so, except to say that we were Baptists in an area replete with Catholic churches. It seemed that if we were to make any headway at all, it would be by chiseling into the centuries of entrenchment the Catholics here had. But as I grew older I found that most Catholics where I live, much like most Baptists and nearly everyone else, don't really practice the religion. They just go to church maybe once a week, then use that to call themselves religious. Religion isn't about pomp and circumstance, it's about beliefs and living by them.
There is one thing I've noticed, though. Have you ever met a "casual Mormon"? I haven't. Say what you will about them (and, as I think about it, Jehovah's Witnesses, too), but they don't half-ass their religious beliefs.
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Now wait just a minute here. "Most Protestants?" There are a heck of a lot of Protestant denominations, and they are most definitely not the same.
There's a world of difference between a Pentecostal church and the United Church of Christ, for example.
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Now wait just a minute here. "Most Protestants?" There are a heck of a lot of Protestant denominations, and they are most definitely not the same.
There's a world of difference between a Pentecostal church and the United Church of Christ, for example.
