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Flight Attendant Says Condit Asked Her to Lie




Washington, D.C. — A flight attendant who said she had a long-term affair with Rep. Gary Condit says the congressman asked her to sign a declaration denying their relationship, and told her she did not need to talk to the FBI following the disappearance of Chandra Levy.


Anne Marie Smith, 39, said in an exclusive interview with Fox News that she refused to sign the draft of a declaration that was submitted by Condit attorneys to her lawyers, and insisted the California Democrat knew the document was a lie.

"Mr. Condit knew it was false and he was asking me to sign it and, I personally could never have signed it," Smith said in an interview on Monday. "I would never have signed it. And he was urging me to sign it, he said you don't want anything, this could be personally embarrassing for both of us."

Smith's lawyers on Monday evening supplied Fox News with a copy of what they said was a draft of the declaration. They said the document contained a note written by Don Thornton, an investigator who works with Condit's West Coast attorney.

Jim Robinson, Smith's attorney, claims to have had a phone conversation with Thornton in which the latter referred to the form as an "affidavit." Robinson says the document is indeed an affidavit, as opposed to a declaration, since it is composed of the specialized vocabulary of the legal profession called legalese.

Lawyers for Condit said on Monday night they did not know of any such document. Thornton spoke with Fox News and also denied any knowledge of the form.



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An investigator searches Chandra Levy's Washington apartment.
Condit lawyers have declined to comment on any relationship he may have had with Smith.

Smith also said she told Condit she had spoken to the FBI about the Levy case. "I left him a voicemail and I said, 'You need to call me, it's urgent,'" she said.

She said he called back the next day, and that he did not respond well when she told him what was happening.

"I said, I have been contacted by this agency, and I want you to know and I said, you know, it was just a routine questioning, they said they would keep my name confidential," she told Fox News.

"He was really upset with me, he said, 'Oh, I see how you are, I see what you're doing.' And I said, 'No, you know, I've never been in a situation like this.' ... He said 'You don't have to talk to the media, you don't have to talk to anybody. You don't even have to talk to the FBI.'"

Smith reportedly told the FBI she ended a year-long romantic relationship with Condit when she saw press reports about Levy, the missing Washington intern, a source close to the woman told Fox News.

Smith said she has not spoken to Condit since one or two weeks before the 24-year-old disappeared. Smith also said she knew the California Democrat was married and suspected he might be seeing someone else, but she didn't know for sure.

Smith also said Condit told her he was "lonely in Washington," with his chronically ill wife spending 99 percent of her time in California.

Condit has been the subject of much media and law enforcement attention in the weeks since he "broke off his close friendship" with Levy. He broke off the friendship only two days before she disappeared, the congressman told investigators, according to Fox News police sources.

The congressman provided the new details about his relationship with Levy in a second, hour-long interview with police, but stopped short of saying whether he and the 24-year-old had a romantic relationship, the sources said. Condit did, however, strongly hint the two had been lovers, the sources said.

When Condit delicately broke things off with Levy with the explanation that she was moving back to California, she was distraught, refusing to take no for an answer and even becoming obsessed with him, the sources said.

Levy called Condit several times on a special line in the 24 hours before she vanished, but he never returned those calls, the sources said.

Condit, 53 and married, has repeatedly said through public statements that he and Levy were only good friends, with his staff denying there was a romantic relationship.

Levy's parents, Susan and Robert Levy of Modesto, Calif., have hired former Washington homicide detectives to scour their daughter's Washington studio apartment for fibers, love letters, notes and any other clues that could help them find out what happened to their daughter, who has not been seen since April 30.

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Me, Carville, and O.J.

Say stay out of that man's sexual life! Of course he's lying! Everybody lies about sex, specially that was it good for you question and that wasn't I good enough for you question. Whatever happened happened just between them and since it was sex, it just thier business dag-nabit! No matter what the consequences!
 
Sounds like one of the mongrels that inhabits Washington DC are up to the same old shit. Lie & deny, lie & deny, and lie again just cause you are in the habit of it. This appears to be a recurring theme with the officials that supposedly work for us.


Then again, maybe the bastard is innocent.:confused:


RIGHT!!!!



Perhaps judgement is best withheld until more facts surface,,, but it is not looking good so far.
 
Leave the man's sex life alone, for gods sakes. WHO CARES who he's been sleeping with?

Do we have nothing better to do with our time and energy in this country but get all titteringly interested in what other people are doing in their beds? Geeze. Get a sex life of your own, i say, and then you won't think that whatever other people might be doing is of such interest.

Gods we're STILL such fucking puritans in this country. (Okay, not all of us...)
 
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cymbidia said:
Leave the man's sex life alone, for gods sakes. WHO CARES who he's been sleeping with?

Do we have nothing better to do with our time and energy in this country but get all titteringly interested in what other people are doing in their beds? Geeze. Get a sex life of your own, i say, and then you won't think that whatever other people might be doing is of such interest.

Gods we're STILL such fucking puritans in this country. (Okay, not all of us...)

I'll somewhat agree with you right up to the point where Ms Smith is asked to sign an affidavit (in essence a waiver of knowledge) by a congressman. In fact, if anything went to trial, ( criminal, civil, or divorce ) regardless of the type of trial, she'll be committing purjury if she is required to give testimony about her relationship with Mr. Condit. She can't deny the relationship, cause she knows it happened,,, and she can't affirm that it happened cause she signed a document that says it did not.

And why is Condit advising her not to speak to the FBI when they are investigating a missing person? That alone sounds goofy.

Whether or not you have a sex life, keeping tabs on the elected officials is part of a citizens responsibility. The articles were devoid of any references to the type of sexual activity that was engaged in, so the tittering factor must surely be low.. Now Mr. Condit is apparently being caught in lies, his first statement disavowed any romantic relationship with Ms Levy, now he is strongly hinting that there was in fact some sort of romantic relationship.

In this case it appears that Mr Condit is possibly using the power of his office to sidestep, at the very least, a moral issue and at the worst a criminal investigation.

NOW, if this was John-Joe-Blow famed screen actor, or Billy Bob down the road, then yeah, you'd be correct in saying that it is not the publics business about bedroom activities. However distasteful the deed, unless there is a criminal act, then the general public really does not have a definate need to know nor to snoop.

BUT, Mr Condit IS an elected public official, and the public darned well does have the right to know when he has screwed up.
 
CW, i respect your opinions and agree that you do have good points in this. When people take elective office, they have to be ready to exist under a microscope with regard to even private corners of their lives, as what they do in the dark of night surely is.

I'm still sickened and saddened by the amount of time and energy people put into wondering and smirking about other people's sex lives. It's really embarassing how mawkishly provincial we still are in this country with regard to sexuality.
 
cymbidia said:

I'm still sickened and saddened by the amount of time and energy people put into wondering and smirking about other people's sex lives. It's really embarassing how mawkishly provincial we still are in this country with regard to sexuality.

On that there is NO disagreement here.

And I meant to address that very thing in my last post,,, but I am a lame brain,,, what can I say?
 
I would not trust anyone

with decisions as important as the decisions that are made in Washington that cannot uphold one simple vow, or 10 simple rules, or whatever moral code or religion they belong to. If you would break that trust for self-serving means. You would break any trust.

I know that is a simplistic view of the world. So sue me.
 
I don't care about anyone's sex life other than my own. This has gone far beyond one slime ball's sex life. The big question is what exactly does he know about Chandra Levy's disappearance? I will be the first to admit that I am suspicious by nature, but I think Condit knows way more about what happened to Miss Levy than he is saying. If I remember right, he has children of his own. How would he feel if one of his children was missing? There is no greater agony for a parent than to not know where their child is. As hard as it is for me to know where my son is, it must be 100 times worse for the Levy family.
 
Even if Condit was having an affair, it is a pretty big leap to connect him with her disappearance and presumed death. There is no shortage of politicians who have affairs, not too many of them find the need to make their lovers vanish without a trace. Condit isn't compared too often to the likes of John Gotti, he's more of a farmboy.

My opinion, when the facts come to light she will have been the victim of a local crime, not some organized political coverup.
 
It could go either way

I am not rushing to judgement, but the behavior, deny, deny, deny, hide behind legalities, etc., does seem to smack of a previously established pattern in our leadership.

Man this guy has had multiple affairs including telling his lovers that his wife is an invalid. I heard Tony Snow sitting in for Rush talk to the woman who broke the Flight Attendant story and this whole thing stinks to the high heavens.

If he is innocent, then for no reason other than sheer stupidity could he have put his head so far into the noose of popular opinion.
 
Originally posted by cymbidia
I'm still sickened and saddened by the amount of time and energy people put into wondering and smirking about other people's sex lives. It's really embarassing how mawkishly provincial we still are in this country with regard to sexuality.

The thing I find most interesting about this is the application of the philosophy.

While screaming it from every rooftop that the impeachment was all about sex (the Left's favorite lie, apparently), it was between Clinton and his family, that it didn't belong in the public forum disregarding the fact that none of the impeachment charges were about sex, isn't it interesting that these same Liberals/Democrats are the ones who specifically went on a scrutiny of the sexual behaviors of those who opposed them and used whatever they could drag into the public forum to destroy peoples' personal lives and public careers.

But, to their defense, there were no crimes involved, there were no offenses committed by these people (other than efforts to hold a public official accountable under existing laws for criminal actions committed). The Left's efforts were totally in line with their demonstrated party line of personal attacks to destroy the person when there is no intellectual means of justifying your opposition to them. To their credit, the Left never accused anyone of these people of any crimes; they made it clear that it was merely political character assassination and should not be construed in any way as just or honest rebuttal of any opposing ideology. It's the persistent Democrat/Liberal preaching point, do as I say, NOT as I do. Probably derived of the same mentality that they used to pass laws exempting members of Congress from laws inflicted on other Americans.

Ask Newt Gingrich and a few others whose public lives were destroyed by the very people who demonized this MO while blatantly using it for their own purposes.

And I'm always amazed that there are people ignorant enough to not recognize the hypocrisy of their leaders and continue to support them. Or does their support merely mirror their values and their ability to judge?
 
Unclebill said:


And I'm always amazed that there are people ignorant enough to not recognize the hypocrisy of their leaders and continue to support them. Or does their support merely mirror their values and their ability to judge?

You know, I couldn't have put it better myself. :D
 
Bill, You can beat that drum all you want but it doesn't mean you've got rhythm. Ooooh they said the Charges weren't about sex?? Well, I suppose we should take those things on face value then. Lord knows it would be the first time people attempted to hang people in the courts for things they did in their private lives. Your sheepish attitude is really funny.

Also as to our previous conversation on the matter it is fairly obvious, to me anyway, that it was in the Right's view partly about getting Clinton because they had such a sad, consuming hatred of the man.

Also, you still have the smart left's argument wrong. I don't remember intelligent folk saying the things that you accuse all of the left saying. The defense of Clinton I remember was: Yes he was wrong but it is being exagerated and the Impeachment is an overreaction. Oh and Bill, the Senate and the People agreed. Get over it.

Seriously though. I don't really know about what happened to comment about it but there are, in my mind, 4 possible explanations for all this

1) Condit is as innocent as a dove, is being smeared by the Idiots at Fox News. Unlikely

2) Condit doesn't know about the missing girl but is currently trying to scramble to cover up his ugly personal life because he rightly thinks that people like Fox News will tear him open for having an affair with the girl. Knows his bag is falling apart and is in a desperate dance to hide his seamy life. This one is my best bet.

3) He knows more than he says about the girl but for various reasons is doing the same as in 3. Vaguely possible

4) He played an active role in the disappearance in the girl and is now trying to cover up the criminal role he played in it. As unlikely as number one.

Truth be told I have no real grasp on what it is. If it's one or two then, I've got sympathy for the guy and think he should be left alone.

If it's one of the others than by all means rip him open. But unlike you folks I'm not about to jump to conclusions without much proof.
 
well, usually you get no where in these threads because no one ever gives up their idealism.

However, I am so sick of politicians. Yes this one looks as if he is lying, although once again I would say that one of the most prominent biblical persons, King David, actually had a womens husband killed to have her. I am not saying any of this is right, it is just nothing new.
 
Ah well if he "looks" like he's lying then I guess thats enough for me. Where's a special prosecutor?
 
What would I do?

I am a serial sexual offender. As a person in power, who uses that power as an aphrodisiac, I am a predator. Now they, America, skewered Gingrich, made up false reports about Jeb Bush, tried to make up reports about Bush Sr., but let Ted Kennedy and Billand Hillary (Vince Foster) Clinton go, get out jail, go ahead pass go, and get your two-hunnerth-thousand dollars. I am of the latter party, so I ...

CARVILLE: SHUT UP AJ! You'd lie! My momma would lie to save me! Hell I'd lie to my wife, the press, my priest, pastor, other lovers, OJ, AJ,

hell its just sex when you is a democrat, no matter what de outcome. CHEDDAR!
 
Originally posted by EBW
Also as to our previous conversation on the matter it is fairly obvious, to me anyway, that it was in the Right's view partly about getting Clinton because they had such a sad, consuming hatred of the man.
It's interesting that you and everyone who supported Clinton automatically assumes that it was hatred of the man that led to the impeachment. You dismiss entirely the possibility that it had anything to do with respect for the rule of law and the desire to hold a criminal accountable for his crimes, the fundamental premise of justice.
 
Unclebill said:

It's interesting that you and everyone who supported Clinton automatically assumes that it was hatred of the man that led to the impeachment. You dismiss entirely the possibility that it had anything to do with respect for the rule of law and the desire to hold a criminal accountable for his crimes, the fundamental premise of justice.

And it's even more telling that you assume that my position is an automatic assumption as opposed to a carefully observed judgement. But then again if someone disagrees with you it couldn't be because of a different opinion, but because they aren't as smart or noble as you.
 
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