Hypothetical about 2004 Presidential Election

[modest mouse]

Imagine this, its 2004 and all primaries have been done away with. You get one vote which will be counted in apure popularity contest, no electoral college.

Who do you vote for?

Please note, only vote in this pool if you are a US citizen who both voted int he last election and will vote in 2004.

 

[Guru]

 

[modest mouse]

I agree Guru. He actually is quite loyal to the republican party but more importantly knows that switching sides hurts him int eh long run.

I didnt mention a party with his name because i consider it undetermined. The people who would vote for McCain (who got my vote) tend to be those who function independent of party rhetoric from either side.

 

[islander01]

I wish I could vote green, but the just dont have a chance. Anybody but Bush.hmmm Well anybody but Bush or Al Sharpton.

 

[The Heretic]

Libertarian

 

[cowgirl heaven]

At least McCain ain't afraid to speak his mind! Too bad more republicans couldn't stand up for what's right and not bend over to the corporation big shots.

Being a woman though and someone who cares deeply about what's left to future generations I can't vote anyother way but democratic.

 

[Weird Harold]

Please note, only vote in this pool if you are a US citizen who both voted int he last election and will vote in 2004.

Who I vote for depends on who is actually on the ballot whenthe time comes.

If the choices are those you've listed, I'll probably vote, "Nunya Bums" again, AKA "none of these candidates" on Nevada ballots.

 

[Shaq]

I'm voting in 04 and I voted in this poll. I'm a whippersnapper so I couldn't vote in the last Pres election.


I'm a Democrat til I die!

Or decided not to be a democrat anymore. Whichever comes first.

 

[modest mouse]

WH, obviously this 'ballot' is not indicative of teh actual 2004 Presidential election but I think it does represent the players who are currently dabbling in running. Its purely for discussion and to see where perhaps support lies.

 

[CelestialBody]

I'd probably vote Dem. Maybe an independent if there was someone I thought could pull it off. I'd love to vote Nader in, but I think a good chunk of America is pissed over 2000.


mouse how many of those inmates were in the Black Panthers?

 

[modest mouse]

I'd love to vote Nader in, but I think a good chunk of America is pissed over 2000.

Pissed about what?

mouse how many of those inmates were in the Black Panthers?

No clue. I can provide you with the link to the list, which includes racial breakdown, if you like.

 

[Guru]

 

[CelestialBody]

Gore losing. When I worked at a Nader founded group this summer, people were STILL sending death threats to them. Scary shit. I'd like the link. if I can match up the list with members of the black panthers it might be interesting.

 

[Guru]

 

[Lost Cause]

Four more in '04...

The rest of the candidates on the ticket are of unreliable character, or career socialists. I notice there were no Libertarians, so I was forced into a narrow choice. As always, the party that comes closest to lessened gov't socialist bureaucracy, is the Republican Party.


www.lp.org

 

[modest mouse]

Gore lost on his own merits. Those that blame Nader fail to understand both the election process and results. Its too bad Nader fell so far from getting 5% needed for matching funds. But you're right, many people are pissed and blame Nader.

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Link to the list

Link to a short bio of each exoneration

I urge anyone with strong feelings about the death penalty to take a look at the links, especially the second one.

 

[modest mouse]

Heretic, Lost Cause,

Until the Libertarians trot out someone other than Harry Browne they will not merit inclusion.

 

[70/30]

As an interesting tidbit: At this time, the Reps have 6 votes, the Dems have 7, and McCain has 2. The Reps lose if McCain is in the race.

At least before McCain's extreme pro-foreign conflict stance and GWB's just as obvious pro-rich and anti-minority stances, McCain actually harmed the Democrats the most in polls---"Since his primary run, polls show McCain's popularity has grown among Democrats while collapsing among Republicans." www.tnr.com That is before McCain's anti-anything-appearing-to-be-communism streak came back into light.

On domestic issues progressives tend to be more like modern Democrats rather than modern Republicans, Nader is vocal about this to the press-according to him, his involvement is why DEMs controlled the senate last Congress. McCain tries to emulate Theodore Roosevelt's progressive attitude. Conservatives don't jump on that train.

I favor the Democrat candidate---part of me likes Nader, part of me likes McCain---however, if I was seeking a more plausible alternative to DEMs, I'd side with Powell.

 

[superlittlegirl]

An interesting Nader tidbit:

The Georgia Ballots in the 2000 election were a bit, um, unique. In the space for president, you could either fill in a bubble for Bush or Gore, or write in the third party candidate. I wrote in Nader, but found out later that because I did not write "Nader for president" my vote was not counted. I was pretty pissed....

 

[70/30]

I see a trend in the approval rating...

http://www.pollingreport.com/BushJob.htm

Also--------------------

"What all the conservative skeptics missed back in December--and what the Democratic presidential candidates wisely anticipated--was that Bush's stingy budget, which was just made even stingier to make room for another outsized tax cut, gives them all sorts of opportunities to point out exactly where the administration is skimping on the war on terror. Democrats no longer have to make some vague case against a popular president. They now have his fingerprints all over some pretty incriminating evidence. According to an article in today's Times, for example, "the [Senate] Republican proposal reduced spending on a variety of domestic security initiatives by nearly $1 billion, including more than $500 million for the Immigration and Naturalization Service and $130 million for the F.B.I." For their part, the article reports, Democrats are pushing for an additional $5 billion in spending on homeland security.' http://www.tnr.com/etc.mhtml