Hydroxychoroquine/Azithromycin/Zinc Sulfate

[Sean]

You know Malaria is caused by a virus, right?
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What?

 

[OldJourno]

I guess my ass is sunk if I test positive for covid-19 because I'm allergic to sulfa drugs. Just a mist of a sulfide on fruits or veggies breaks me out. A larger dose can throw me into cardiac arrest.

Nah. If you aren't 65 or older and don't have the dreaded underlying medical conditions, you'll ride it out just like the flu.
Or maybe you already have it and don't know it. They say that's the case with lots of people.

 

[oggbashan]

Nah. If you aren't 65 or older and don't have the dreaded underlying medical conditions, you'll ride it out just like the flu.
Or maybe you already have it and don't know it. They say that's the case with lots of people.

But I'm over 75 with the dreaded underlying conditions. Please keep well away from me!

 

[Fuzzy1975]

. They say that's the case with lots of people.

Who is "they"?

 

[oggbashan]

Who is "they"?

Yesterday it was the Chinese who detected 400 new people without overt symptoms in Wuhan.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

Yesterday it was the Chinese who detected 400 new people without overt symptoms in Wuhan.

No surprise, makes me wonder if this the "second" wave now appearing.

Honestly I have no faith in the Chinese Government numbers, I would like to think they have stopped trying to down play this but....

 

[HisArpy]

Glad you see those reports, mind sharing them? Links?....

dudly, do you even bother to read any news source other than Lit?

NEW French study of 1016 patients about the efficacy of Hydroxycholorquine as a treatment for Covid19

 

[RobDownSouth]

In other news today, scientists in Brazil, attempting to duplicate the results of the flawed Chinese studies (but with scientific controls), ended the study early when the 600mg dosage of the anti-malarial (since rebranded as "anti-viral") drug chloroquine was found to cause atrial fibrillation in 25% of human beings.

1 in 4. (or "more than half" in Conager-speak )

Feelin' lucky, punk?

Don't know what A-fib is? Ask AJ. It forced him into "early retirement" three years ago.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

dudly, do you even bother to read any news source other than Lit?

NEW French study of 1016 patients about the efficacy of Hydroxycholorquine as a treatment for Covid19

Funny I asked for Richard's reports, from California and Missouri, and as of yet, he has not supplied them?

Do you have them, since you are in California too I think?

Thanks for the link I'll go read it.

Just as note, I have said numerous times all over the board, I do hope some drug combination shows up soon to combat COVID-19, I am just not jumping on board until I see Clinical Evidence, not just Anecdotal Evidence...is that really so hard to understand?

Read the article no real links to much in it. From what I gathered this was an observation study, with no control group. So if fall under Anecodotal, also I cannot find any link to the study through peer group searches.

If you wish to read something, go through this report, see if you can find the study?

http://www.bccdc.ca/Health-Professionals-Site/Documents/Guidelines_Unproven_Therapies_COVID-19.pdf

 

[HisArpy]

Funny I asked for Richard's reports, from California and Missouri, and as of yet, he has not supplied them?

Do you have them, since you are in California too I think?

Thanks for the link I'll go read it.

Just as note, I have said numerous times all over the board, I do hope some drug combination shows up soon to combat COVID-19, I am just not jumping on board until I see Clinical Evidence, not just Anecdotal Evidence...is that really so hard to understand?

1. Google can be your (very invasive) friend. With Google you can find out just about anything and everything there is to know without having to ask anyone else for it. That small thing tends to make you look more informed than repeating stupid questions and assertions on a porn board.

2. I seem to remember recently that you denied the value of the anecdotal evidence I offered. Have you changed your opinion or is this more of the same wishy washy crap you usually spew?

 

[Klinkster]

In other news today, scientists in Brazil, attempting to duplicate the results of the flawed Chinese studies (but with scientific controls), ended the study early when the 600mg dosage of the anti-malarial (since rebranded as "anti-viral") drug chloroquine was found to cause atrial fibrillation in 25% of human beings.

1 in 4. (or "more than half" in Conager-speak )

Feelin' lucky, punk?

Don't know what A-fib is? Ask AJ. It forced him into "early retirement" three years ago.

Not surprised.
One of the side effects at 200mg can be slow and/or irregular heartbeat. That has been known for years.
Heart disease is one of the things docs ask about before it is prescribed.
What I hear, for COVID-19, 400 mg is recommended. The Brazil nuts wee testing over that.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

1. Google can be your (very invasive) friend. With Google you can find out just about anything and everything there is to know without having to ask anyone else for it. That small thing tends to make you look more informed than repeating stupid questions and assertions on a porn board.

2. I seem to remember recently that you denied the value of the anecdotal evidence I offered. Have you changed your opinion or is this more of the same wishy washy crap you usually spew?

I still deny Anecdotal evidence...I want Clinical Evidence....read above, or did you miss that?

I prefer links if someone posts a statement of purported fact, if they don't post one I usually do one of two things, ignore the post, or ask for the link.

 

[Klinkster]

I still deny Anecdotal evidence...I want Clinical Evidence....read above, or did you miss that?

I prefer links if someone posts a statement of purported fact, if they don't post one I usually do one of two things, ignore the post, or ask for the link.

Then, do as I told you, should you catch coronavirus. If a doc recommends you take it, just say no to drugs, you want clinical tests first.

How hard is that?

 

[freakyguy41]

dudly, do you even bother to read any news source other than Lit?

NEW French study of 1016 patients about the efficacy of Hydroxycholorquine as a treatment for Covid19

https://www.nih.gov/news-events/new...chloroquine-potential-therapy-covid-19-begins

From the United States National Institute of Health

"While COVID-19 usually presents as an acute respiratory infectious illness, it can damage multiple organ systems, including heart, lung, and blood. Most adults with COVID-19 experience fever, cough, and fatigue and then recover within one to three weeks. However, some develop severe illness, typically manifesting as pneumonia and respiratory failure, with continued progression to acute respiratory distress syndrome and death. Currently, no therapies have been demonstrated to prevent the progression of COVID-19 to severe illness, but several medicines available in the United States have been proposed as potential therapies.

Hydroxychloroquine is used to treat malaria and rheumatoid conditions such as arthritis. In various studies, the drug has demonstrated antiviral activity, an ability to modify the activity of the immune system, and has an established safety profile at appropriate doses, leading to the hypothesis that it may also be useful in the treatment of COVID-19. The drug is not without risks as even short term use can cause cardiac arrythmias, seizures, dermatological reactions, and hypoglycemia."

 

[HisArpy]

https://www.nih.gov/news-events/new...chloroquine-potential-therapy-covid-19-begins

From the United States National Institute of Health

"While COVID-19 usually presents as an acute respiratory infectious illness, it can damage multiple organ systems, including heart, lung, and blood. Most adults with COVID-19 experience fever, cough, and fatigue and then recover within one to three weeks. However, some develop severe illness, typically manifesting as pneumonia and respiratory failure, with continued progression to acute respiratory distress syndrome and death. Currently, no therapies have been demonstrated to prevent the progression of COVID-19 to severe illness, but several medicines available in the United States have been proposed as potential therapies.

Hydroxychloroquine is used to treat malaria and rheumatoid conditions such as arthritis. In various studies, the drug has demonstrated antiviral activity, an ability to modify the activity of the immune system, and has an established safety profile at appropriate doses, leading to the hypothesis that it may also be useful in the treatment of COVID-19. The drug is not without risks as even short term use can cause cardiac arrythmias, seizures, dermatological reactions, and hypoglycemia."

And?

BTW, the US FDA has authorized the use of HCQ for treatment of Covid19. That kinda defeats your head in the sand repeating of old news.

 

[Conager]

I still deny Anecdotal evidence...I want Clinical Evidence....read above, or did you miss that?

I prefer links if someone posts a statement of purported fact, if they don't post one I usually do one of two things, ignore the post, or ask for the link.

When you find yourself hospitalized for Covid19, volunteer for the clinical trials you fantasize will.occur where patients, (hopefully you) are given placebos while in critical condition with a life-threatening disease.

Be sure to voice your consent while you can still gurgle it out of your fast-filling lungs.

In the alternative, you could always just wait for after the clinical trials on some other course of treatment that no one is even thought of yet.

By the way, anecdotal evidence, just like circumstantial evidence, is evidence that actually exists. You can choose to disregard it or give it little weight, but "denying" it exists is pretty stupid.

 

[silver gurl]

In other news today, scientists in Brazil, attempting to duplicate the results of the flawed Chinese studies (but with scientific controls), ended the study early when the 600mg dosage of the anti-malarial (since rebranded as "anti-viral") drug chloroquine was found to cause atrial fibrillation in 25% of human beings.

1 in 4. (or "more than half" in Conager-speak )

Feelin' lucky, punk?

Don't know what A-fib is? Ask AJ. It forced him into "early retirement" three years ago.

Chloroquine is not the same as hydroxychoroquine. The later, is more mild.

 

[butters]

sweden also stopped its hospitals and doctors from using it to treat covid19 patients as they found the heart risks and other side effects way more pronounced than any debatable efficacy

 

[Fuzzy1975]

When you find yourself hospitalized for Covid19, volunteer for the clinical trials you fantasize will.occur where patients, (hopefully you) are given placebos while in critical condition with a life-threatening disease.

Be sure to voice your consent while you can still gurgle it out of your fast-filling lungs.

In the alternative, you could always just wait for after the clinical trials on some other course of treatment that no one is even thought of yet.

By the way, anecdotal evidence, just like circumstantial evidence, is evidence that actually exists. You can choose to disregard it or give it little weight, but "denying" it exists is pretty stupid.

Just because you think that way, doesn't mean anyone who doesn't think like you is incorrect...chuckles.

Here is a link to a "Clinical Trial" so please go out, shake hands hang with all your friends who figure Hydroxychoroquine is the cure....then when you get COVID-19, you can decide to register...maybe you get the placebo, maybe not...

https://www.covid-19research.ca/hydroxychloroquine-study

Me I am practicing my social distancing ( have been for 15 years) taking precautions, washing my hands etc when go out...yada yada yada.. and waiting for the "Evidence" to come in. As several experts on Virology have already stated, if Hydroxychloroquine was a "silver bullet" for COVID-19 we would know that by now.

Is it a possible drug treatment in some case's, maybe? But it is not the cure,of that we can be certain.

 

[Dribble]

Morons need to google "antiviral". They might be surprised at what it means. Or...they can stay ignorant. It is their choice.

 

[Richard_C]

New York Post isn't usually my go to source for accurate news, but they reported on this.

https://nypost.com/2020/04/02/hydroxychloroquine-most-effective-coronavirus-treatment-poll/

 

[Counselor706]

A nursing home medical director in Texas said he has used hydroxychloroquine sulfate to treat 39 coronavirus patients, and all of them are doing well after five days, WFAA-TV reported.

Dr. Robin Armstrong, the medical director at The Resort nursing home in Texas City, said he decided to try the drug when faced with the real possibility that a significant portion of the nursing home's residents could die — 56 of them tested positive for the coronavirus. Because COVID-19 is especially dangerous to the elderly and those with certain underlying health problems, nursing home coronavirus outbreaks have been particularly fatal in the United States.

Armstrong said none of the patients has displayed any side effects from hydroxychloroquine, and that some of them have improved enough that they've been able to go outside for the first time since starting the treatment. He emphasized that it is not a cure for the coronavirus, but a way to ease the symptoms and help patients recover.

Source

 

[HisArpy]

Morons need to google "antiviral". They might be surprised at what it means. Or...they can stay ignorant. It is their choice.

*ahem*

60 posts ago Mr. Late to the Party.

http://forum.literotica.com/showpost.php?p=92180679&postcount=259

 

[Conager]

Who is "they"?

Every study that looked at a random population sample. That "they."

I dunno there's enough room under Comshaw's bed to maintain proper social distancing, but you could ask him

 

[Conager]

Morons need to google "antiviral". They might be surprised at what it means. Or...they can stay ignorant. It is their choice.

What something was designed to do has nothing whatsoever to do with whether it is or is not it is efficacious in another role.

Monoamine oxidase inhibitors were created because tuberculosis patients getting iproniazid which is a cobacterial agent, (sound familiar?) reported mood elevation. It was a while before it was even understood what the action was. (inhibiting an enzyme)

Selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors came from a drug not designed to inhibit the reuptake of serotonin. The search began after noticing that an antihistamine had that effect. They successfully isolated the portion of the chemical that had that resulted in the desired action.

Silver is a precious metal. It <may> have anti-viral, anti-bacterial, anti-anti-fungal effects. The fact that it's most common uses are in jewelry and industrial use doesn't change that.

Copper has similar effects. Viruses do not love long on a copper surface. That property doesn't change just because they make pretty pennies as well.