Yeah sure, women hardly ever date 'down', universal phenomenon
Hypergamy is an established sociological principle. Of course both parents should cover child support, but really we men don't mind that part, even if we have to pay the full cost.
The responsibility to put on a condom.
Hypergamy will never change how much we fight it.Yeah sure, women hardly ever date 'down', universal phenomenon
Also the responsibility to discuss with her what to do if it breaks. If she would carry to term, either help support the child resulting from both their actions or don’t have sex with her.
Chief, I'm completely out of my depth while discussing the swinging scene, because I have no idea about it. I don't even know if there is such a scene in Indian cities, though I guess there must be. Your experience has been varied and wide, and I admire you for it.
But pure logic, even without first hand knowledge, suggests that you are right about every point you have made above. Unless both partners are equally into swinging, it will damage the marriage. For the average (non swinging) couple, and I think this a universal truth: both men and women are willing to forgive many shortcomings of, and misdemeanours by, their partners, but infidelity is one thing they do not. Cheating gets them furious, and once found out, usually signals the end of a marriage, whether or not there is a formal divorce - so it is much better to put up with a boring marital sex life, or even none at all, than cheat, unless one has mentally given up on one's existing marriage already. Yes, sex with the same person gets boring after a while, no matter how much you love him/her, and there is nothing that can be done about it. (Thanks God for sites like Literotica, which allow safe blowing off of steam!
Yes, you are dead right, for men to attract women, there is only one way - achievement, achievement, achievement. Good looks, sense of humour, blah-blah-blah matter very little (okay extreme youth, terrific sense of humour, a really well toned body does make some difference, but I tell you if you have written an award winning book, or sing on public stage, or are part of the college football or baseball team, you will get women much more easily.) For women to attract men, good looks are enough. (From this perspective, women are much more sensible, bless them.
Oh I agree hypergamy is a thing. Here too, we have (had?) some saying about how women should marry a "doctor or lawyer" because $$$. So yes, it definitely happenened, still happens, and is probably still common in many areas. I find solace in younger people not putting as much stock in it. Even if someone wants to be a homemaker (a perfectly fine choice), they are going to look for more than someone's ability to support a family financially. Most people, men and women, want care and respect at a minimum. I think it's more our culture being dumb than guys being dumb. Men may well be more visual when it comes to just animal sexual attraction but they are also quite capable of having emotional intelligence, deep relationships, etc., They get punished for showing that, at least where I live. It's gotten much, much better in my life time, so there's that.Well, maybe mine was a sweeping generalization
I'll stop now, for realsies.
Well said!Oh I agree hypergamy is a thing. Here too, we have (had?) some saying about how women should marry a "doctor or lawyer" because $$$. So yes, it definitely happenened, still happens, and is probably still common in many areas. I find solace in younger people not putting as much stock in it. Even if someone wants to be a homemaker (a perfectly fine choice), they are going to look for more than someone's ability to support a family financially. Most people, men and women, want care and respect at a minimum. I think it's more our culture being dumb than guys being dumb. Men may well be more visual when it comes to just animal sexual attraction but they are also quite capable of having emotional intelligence, deep relationships, etc., They get punished for showing that, at least where I live. It's gotten much, much better in my life time, so there's that.
My rage button is people (not you) making sweeping generalizations about gender because some people do some stuff or some stuff is culturally orthodox. I don't expect to actually convince anyone online about anything. Just needed to post what I did because somebody's teenage sons are going to be reading this stuff and silence helps poison spread. Forgive my mixed metaphor there.
Again, apologies to all for me still being off topic!
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My hubby has never cared about my number of partners before him. It wasn't really a factor in either of us deciding to be together. I didn't care about his number either. I cared about how he treated people, including any past partners, not as much about how many there had been.
I know the thread was for guys to reply but hubby isn't on LitE so this is my attempt to at least be on topic.
Thank you for bringing both sanity and reality to this thread!Oh I agree hypergamy is a thing. Here too, we have (had?) some saying about how women should marry a "doctor or lawyer" because $$$. So yes, it definitely happenened, still happens, and is probably still common in many areas. I find solace in younger people not putting as much stock in it. Even if someone wants to be a homemaker (a perfectly fine choice), they are going to look for more than someone's ability to support a family financially. Most people, men and women, want care and respect at a minimum. I think it's more our culture being dumb than guys being dumb. Men may well be more visual when it comes to just animal sexual attraction but they are also quite capable of having emotional intelligence, deep relationships, etc., They get punished for showing that, at least where I live. It's gotten much, much better in my life time, so there's that.
My rage button is people (not you) making sweeping generalizations about gender because some people do some stuff or some stuff is culturally orthodox. I don't expect to actually convince anyone online about anything. Just needed to post what I did because somebody's teenage sons are going to be reading this stuff and silence helps poison spread. Forgive my mixed metaphor there.
Again, apologies to all for me still being off topic!
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on topic stuff
My hubby has never cared about my number of partners before him. It wasn't really a factor in either of us deciding to be together. I didn't care about his number either. I cared about how he treated people, including any past partners, not as much about how many there had been.
I know the thread was for guys to reply but hubby isn't on LitE so this is my attempt to at least be on topic.
You probably benefitted from her breadth of experience and the fact that she has some decent sex drive.
Most people want to share their intimate thoughts with someone they care for - it is a way of bonding and generating trust.
The most men any past gf has told they’ve been with was 100. I didn’t mind. It was very sexy actually. It all depends in how she presents.
No such thing as too many. I prefer well used and experienced women. I love women who love sex and want as much as possible.
Damn that's fucking hot I agree never be enough.
Any other answer is an embarrassment, IMO
IAT once?
