How To Spot A Neoliberal?

SevMax2

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1. They are more worried about symbolic gestures than public policy.
2. They had it great in the Obama years as well as in the present administration, so they just want normalcy back.
3. They don’t actually oppose Trump on issues like the military budget, but they rip up his speech and try to impeach him for something like Ukraine rather than something like war crimes, sexual assault, fraud, or emoluments.
4. They pretend that they are progressive while drone bombing tons of people, expanding two illegal wars of aggression into four, collecting metadata on people, worshipping the neocon Bush Republicans, deporting more immigrants than your Republican predecessor, separating families, putting kids in cages, putting neocon Republicans front and center at the convention and at their favorite neoliberal networks, and calling whistleblowers traitors.
5. Even slightly populist rhetoric, even the insincere, offends them, but war, surveillance, and poverty are fine by them.
6. They focus more on beating the left than on defeating their general election opponents.
7. Tribalism and party loyalty matter most to them. Even mild criticism is intolerable if directed at the party elders. And don’t dare run for the nomination unless you are an official Democrat, even if the voters want you and you caucus with Democrats in the Senate. And bipartisanship can only be allowed when Saint Nancy allows it. Otherwise it’s treason. And she only allows it in order to help the rich or hurt the poor.
8. Their foreign policy is now to the right of Bush. War is good now.
9. Cultural wedge issues are enough to call yourself liberal nowadays. You don’t need to help the working class, because screw them. They voted for Trump and can never be won back, so let’s punish them and focus on suburban moderates, especially soccer moms and lifelong Republicans.
10. Meeting foreign dictators is only okay if it suits the present narrative. Otherwise, it makes you an apologist, even if Pelosi once did it and you are just trying to learn what is really going on in the place.
11. It’s okay to put in lots of pork for the banks and corporations, as long as you feed the poor some table scraps and it’s okay to play chicken with the stimulus as long as someone else gets all of the blame.
12. There is never enough money for single payer, but always enough to bail out Wall Street and wage more wars.
13. If someone points any of this out, they must be a Russian troll, even if they have been on Lit since 2005 under their previous username.
 
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Classic ad hominem attack, a sign that you lost the argument and can’t refute anything. Back on iggy, douchebag.
 
1. They are more worried about symbolic gestures than public policy.
2. They had it great in the Obama years as well as in the present administration, so they just want normalcy back.
3. They don’t actually oppose Trump on issues like the military budget, but they rip up his speech and try to impeach him for something like Ukraine rather than something like war crimes, sexual assault, fraud, or emoluments.
4. They pretend that they are progressive while drone bombing tons of people, expanding two illegal wars of aggression into four, collecting metadata on people, worshipping the neocon Bush Republicans, deporting more immigrants than your Republican predecessor, separating families, putting kids in cages, putting neocon Republicans front and center at the convention and at their favorite neoliberal networks, and calling whistleblowers traitors.
5. Even slightly populist rhetoric, even the insincere, offends them, but war, surveillance, and poverty are fine by them.
6. They focus more on beating the left than on defeating their general election opponents.
7. Tribalism and party loyalty matter most to them. Even mild criticism is intolerable if directed at the party elders. And don’t dare run for the nomination unless you are an official Democrat, even if the voters want you and you caucus with Democrats in the Senate. And bipartisanship can only be allowed when Saint Nancy allows it. Otherwise it’s treason. And she only allows it in order to help the rich or hurt the poor.
8. Their foreign policy is now to the right of Bush. War is good now.
9. Cultural wedge issues are enough to call yourself liberal nowadays. You don’t need to help the working class, because screw them. They voted for Trump and can never be won back, so let’s punish them and focus on suburban moderates, especially soccer moms and lifelong Republicans.
10. Meeting foreign dictators is only okay if it suits the present narrative. Otherwise, it makes you an apologist, even if Pelosi once did it and you are just trying to learn what is really going on in the place.
11. It’s okay to put in lots of pork for the banks and corporations, as long as you feed the poor some table scraps and it’s okay to play chicken with the stimulus as long as someone else gets all of the blame.
12. There is never enough money for single payer, but always enough to bail out Wall Street and wage more wars.
13. If someone points any of this out, they must be a Russian troll, even if they have been on Lit since 2005 under their previous username.

So, you don't know what a neoliberal is.
 
As usual, FF forgets that I cannot read his posts while he is on iggy. That is kind of the point of iggy.
 
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SevMax2 and FecesFan.

Both ends of the spectrum.

Both un-American.

Sad.
 
Ah, the bliss of not hearing the latest McCarthyist claptrap from the neoliberal moron of the hour.
 
It’s an odd double standard that the center attacks the left constantly, but can’t take any criticism from the left without whining and resorting to McCarthyist rhetoric about Russian trolls. Never mind that many Russian trolls and bots were created by an American firm called New Knowledge, which NBC uses as a source despite a Facebook ban for inventing fake Russian bots in 2017. They since changed their name to Yonder.
 
So in short no such creature has ever been observed in nature?



SevMax2 and FecesFan both have magically unrealistic views of America.

One thinks the status quo is fine, the other thinks it should all be burned down.

*shrugs*
 
Oh, there’s a neoliberal, corporate McCarthyist warmonger!
 
I think you stumped one of the two. One is too busy being a Racist to care about neoliberalism. The other is too crazy to stop posting about things way over his head. Like Hayek!
 
I think you stumped one of the two. One is too busy being a Racist to care about neoliberalism. The other is too crazy to stop posting about things way over his head. Like Hayek!

Can't point to a single instance of racism.
 
1. They are more worried about symbolic gestures than public policy.
2. They had it great in the Obama years as well as in the present administration, so they just want normalcy back.
3. They don’t actually oppose Trump on issues like the military budget, but they rip up his speech and try to impeach him for something like Ukraine rather than something like war crimes, sexual assault, fraud, or emoluments.
4. They pretend that they are progressive while drone bombing tons of people, expanding two illegal wars of aggression into four, collecting metadata on people, worshipping the neocon Bush Republicans, deporting more immigrants than your Republican predecessor, separating families, putting kids in cages, putting neocon Republicans front and center at the convention and at their favorite neoliberal networks, and calling whistleblowers traitors.
5. Even slightly populist rhetoric, even the insincere, offends them, but war, surveillance, and poverty are fine by them.
6. They focus more on beating the left than on defeating their general election opponents.
7. Tribalism and party loyalty matter most to them. Even mild criticism is intolerable if directed at the party elders. And don’t dare run for the nomination unless you are an official Democrat, even if the voters want you and you caucus with Democrats in the Senate. And bipartisanship can only be allowed when Saint Nancy allows it. Otherwise it’s treason. And she only allows it in order to help the rich or hurt the poor.
8. Their foreign policy is now to the right of Bush. War is good now.
9. Cultural wedge issues are enough to call yourself liberal nowadays. You don’t need to help the working class, because screw them. They voted for Trump and can never be won back, so let’s punish them and focus on suburban moderates, especially soccer moms and lifelong Republicans.
10. Meeting foreign dictators is only okay if it suits the present narrative. Otherwise, it makes you an apologist, even if Pelosi once did it and you are just trying to learn what is really going on in the place.
11. It’s okay to put in lots of pork for the banks and corporations, as long as you feed the poor some table scraps and it’s okay to play chicken with the stimulus as long as someone else gets all of the blame.
12. There is never enough money for single payer, but always enough to bail out Wall Street and wage more wars.
13. If someone points any of this out, they must be a Russian troll, even if they have been on Lit since 2005 under their previous username.

Odd, I agreed with all of that, and thus will immediately be accused of being a russian troll.
 
Odd, I agreed with all of that, and thus will immediately be accused of being a russian troll.

That’s their smoke and mirrors way to hide their corruption. They want to pretend that all is well, when the left must clean its own house before cleaning up America. We must have no patience with incrementalism, machine politics, and legalized bribery by the military industrial complex and Wall Street. Neoliberals must be removed one election at a time, primaried and RCV’d.
 
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Odd, I agreed with all of that, and thus will immediately be accused of being a russian troll.

If you post with the intention of portraying the Democratic Party as being "the same" as the Republican Party, and that voting for Biden is no different than voting for Trump, then yeah, you're either a troll or an idiot. Take your pick.
 
That’s their smoke and mirrors way to hide their corruption.

The sad thing is its not really their corruption. It's not Hillary, or Biden, or Pelosi signed up on Literotica of all websites and trolling its political forum to accuse anyone who points out those people's corruption of being an internet troll from a foreign country.

And why on earth would russian trolls visit a politics forum on a sex site to spread such attacks when more publicly visited sites like facebook or twitter or reddit or even youtube would be far far more effective strategically for them to concentrate their efforts on. We'd have to be the worst internet trolls ever just wasting all of the Kremlin's rubles on something only a handful of people would see and very few would share, because not many here would publicly advertise that they even visit Literotica much less share our Russian misinformation with their friends and family.

No the only reason they'd call us russian trolls here is that they can't handle our true criticisms of those that have been in power within the democratic party ever since Bill Clinton realigned the party to be centrist oriented. It's the knee jerk reaction a steady diet of MSNBC had trained them to so they don't have to think critically about the actually corrupt people in charge now.

That doesn't disqualify the republicans either I think Fox news does the same thing to their viewers ability to think critically about their party's leadership too.
 
The sad thing is its not really their corruption. It's not Hillary, or Biden, or Pelosi signed up on Literotica of all websites and trolling its political forum to accuse anyone who points out those people's corruption of being an internet troll from a foreign country.

And why on earth would russian trolls visit a politics forum on a sex site to spread such attacks when more publicly visited sites like facebook or twitter or reddit or even youtube would be far far more effective strategically for them to concentrate their efforts on. We'd have to be the worst internet trolls ever just wasting all of the Kremlin's rubles on something only a handful of people would see and very few would share, because not many here would publicly advertise that they even visit Literotica much less share our Russian misinformation with their friends and family.

No the only reason they'd call us russian trolls here is that they can't handle our true criticisms of those that have been in power within the democratic party ever since Bill Clinton realigned the party to be centrist oriented. It's the knee jerk reaction a steady diet of MSNBC had trained them to so they don't have to think critically about the actually corrupt people in charge now.

That doesn't disqualify the republicans either I think Fox news does the same thing to their viewers ability to think critically about their party's leadership too.

Excellent explanation! Critical thinking isn’t their strength.
 
With an overwhelming Trump victory, neoliberalism could be gone next year. I am curious to see what emerges from the wreckage.
 
If you post with the intention of portraying the Democratic Party as being "the same" as the Republican Party, and that voting for Biden is no different than voting for Trump, then yeah, you're either a troll or an idiot. Take your pick.

Who the hell said Biden is no different from voting for Trump?

I know I didn't.

At this point voting for a pet rock would be better than voting for Il Presidente Donaldo Trumpolini.

You just see falsely that any criticism of Biden or the leadership of the Democratic party as bringing down to the same level as the republicans or Trump in particular. Yes Biden is not as bad as Trump and the Democrats aren't as bad as the Republican party, but to purposely be blind to their shortcomings is just stupid and apologizes for their own responsibility in the state our country is in now.
 
Who the hell said Biden is no different from voting for Trump?

I know I didn't.

At this point voting for a pet rock would be better than voting for Il Presidente Donaldo Trumpolini.

You just see falsely that any criticism of Biden or the leadership of the Democratic party as bringing down to the same level as the republicans or Trump in particular. Yes Biden is not as bad as Trump and the Democrats aren't as bad as the Republican party, but to purposely be blind to their shortcomings is just stupid and apologizes for their own responsibility in the state our country is in now.

Exactly! I’m living in a swing state, for instance, so I must vote for the old Blue Dog as a means of harm reduction. That doesn’t make him a progressive.
 
With an overwhelming Trump victory, neoliberalism could be gone next year. I am curious to see what emerges from the wreckage.

Please, You guys have your own version of Neo-lieberalism on the right wing. Alot of them were the never-trumpers like the lincoln project or Mitt Romney or John Kasich, but alot of them were smart and pretended to be on Trump's side to coopt his movement's whole direction into their same Right-wing Neo-liberal agenda. That's how the only thing the Republican's got passed under Trump despite having both the house and the senate was Paul Ryan's wet dream of tax cuts to billionaires and corporations.
 
Please, You guys have your own version of Neo-lieberalism on the right wing. Alot of them were the never-trumpers like the lincoln project or Mitt Romney or John Kasich, but alot of them were smart and pretended to be on Trump's side to coopt his movement's whole direction into their same Right-wing Neo-liberal agenda. That's how the only thing the Republican's got passed under Trump despite having both the house and the senate was Paul Ryan's wet dream of tax cuts to billionaires and corporations.

Neocons are the neoliberals of the Republican Party. Fake populists, just like Trump himself. Trump spent much of his dubious career as a Manhattan Clinton Democrat. Just sayin’.
 
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