How to make amends?

[heavyhitter01]

Oh, sorry. I thought that was clear.

No need for apologies. I never said I had a problem with it.

 

[Lord Pmann]

And...Shane McGowan? That might work if I were Irish!

Yes. Shane MacGowan. A better looking HH, with an Irish accent.

 

[heavyhitter01]

Oh HH, that is a very simplistic way to look at the world.

In life, there is not always a need to know every single thing a person in your world has done, good, bad or in between. I, for example, have had sex with ....let's say a few men (and some women) in my time. Does my husband know about them all? Of course not, they were PRE him. He doesn't need to know. He doesn't care. It has no impact on us as a couple. That is not sweeping it under the rug or lying about it. That's simply accepting that before you know someone they had a whole life and it probably included some mistakes and THAT IS OK.

That doesn't speak of my character, or lack of. That speaks proudly that I have lived a life that has been perfect and imperfect all at once, and that is mine to wear, mine to own and my husbands to honour and cherish because it has made me who I am.

Perhaps you see my view as simplistic. I obviously don't, so we can agree to disagree on that point.

You set forth a good example about what your husband knows or doesn't know, and it makes sense. Your world works in a certain way right now because he doesn't want to know, and that's fine for the two of you. But what if he changed his mind one day and did want to know? Or what if you were with someone who DID care about what you did before they came along?

Maybe you would choose not to be with someone who was interested in your past on such a level. But as for me, I'm always interested in the things that made a person who they are, and that includes the good and the bad. I would ask about things like that, and I'm sure I'm not the only one.

 

[heavyhitter01]

In addition, in regards to employment. It is NONE of my employers business that I once had sex with a moderately known person who was obsessed with Elle McPherson, and we were high as a kite heady cocktail of various illegal substances, and listening to his very famous dead father's music.

Though it was not one of my finest hours it has ZERO bearing on how kick arse I am at my job.

Do you see what I'm trying to say?

Of course I do. It makes sense. It sounds like we are arguing two different points.

Consider this: If your employer were to Google and find out about your wild night with the McPherson-obsessed, they might view you differently, regardless of whether it was their business or not. They might think it makes you hot. But they also might think it makes you despicable. Either way, it's out there -- so how do you handle something once it is out there?

That's the question: Not whether they can access it, not whether it is their business, but what they do with it when they DO have it -- and more importantly, how you respond to that.

 

[Lord Pmann]

Oh HH, that is a very simplistic way to look at the world.

In life, there is not always a need to know every single thing a person in your world has done, good, bad or in between. I, for example, have had sex with ....let's say a few men (and some women) in my time. Does my husband know about them all? Of course not, they were PRE him.

As your Internet stalker, I need to know about each encounter. In graphic detail. Pictures would be helpful.

 

[heavyhitter01]

Also...

Would you like for all your future relationships to know about this behaviour of yours? I'm sure you're going to say yes, you wouldn't care, you have nothing to hide. Well... from a woman, here...let me just tell you in advance, you should care and you should be deeply concerned TL will turn this around on you one day, because there is NO sane woman who would want to be take up a serious relationship with you knowing you're capable of this shit. NOT ONE.

*breathes*

Oh, sweetheart...you would be SO surprised.

I suppose the question that raises is: How would TL possibly turn it around? There's nothing to hide, therefore there is nothing to attack me about.

I could understand if there were skeletons rattling around in my closet. But fortunately for me, the only bones I have hanging around are those I simmer in the stockpot.

 

[Lord Pmann]

Oh, sweetheart...you would be SO surprised.

I suppose the question that raises is: How would TL possibly turn it around? There's nothing to hide, therefore there is nothing to attack me about.

I could understand if there were skeletons rattling around in my closet. But fortunately for me, the only bones I have hanging around are those I simmer in the stockpot.

Hahaha. I'm just waiting for the day one of these girls beats you like the shitstick you are for callig them sugar or sweetheart.

But the point is, making this information potentially available to future employers is low. Messing with her social life is one thing. Affecting her ability to be employed and pay her bills is another. The two things are not the same.

And how could she turn it around on you? Show a girl this thread. For fuck's same mate, you look like your obsessed with your friend's dick and you look like a psychopathic, vengeful rapist. I don't care how good your McRibs are, girls would find this behaviour scary.

 

[whynotjustsayit]

Hahaha. I'm just waiting for the day one of these girls beats you like the shitstick you are for callig them sugar or sweetheart.

But the point is, making this information potentially available to future employers is low. Messing with her social life is one thing. Affecting her ability to be employed and pay her bills is another. The two things are not the same.

And how could she turn it around on you? Show a girl this thread. For fuck's same mate, you look like your obsessed with your friend's dick and you look like a psychopathic, vengeful rapist. I don't care how good your McRibs are, girls would find this behaviour scary.

I agree with this 100%. What does HH want for TL? That she's unemployed and homeless? It takes people months and sometimes years to get new jobs these days.

And calling women sweethearts who aren't your sweethearts IS very condescending.

Pmann, big brain goes along with big cock, apparently.

 

[heavyhitter01]

To answer that question, How do I respond? What would I do with it? Absoloutely nothing. I don't answer to my employers about my past, present or future sex life and if they even so much as suggested I should they'd find themselves with one very big problem on their hands in the shape of me.

I think what you're failing to see is that they shouldn't be able to access it. Just as TL's employer shouldn't be able to access it if you hadn't set about inviting them to.

You're right. In a perfect world, they shouldn't be able to access it. But she screwed up with her personal and social life, she bragged about it online and she put so much personal information out there...she should have known better.

At this point, I wouldn't have to contact anyone concerning her. All I actually had to do was create the blog and leave it at that. Someone who searched for her real name would find it all...and remember, all of it is true, and the vast majority of it was put out there by HER. Not me. I just collected it all in the same place.

 

[heavyhitter01]

And how could she turn it around on you? Show a girl this thread. For fuck's same mate, you look like your obsessed with your friend's dick and you look like a psychopathic, vengeful rapist. I don't care how good your McRibs are, girls would find this behaviour scary.

Interestingly enough, women tend to like honesty. Who knew?! And they tend to appreciate someone who is willing to stand up for what he believes, even when it makes him incredibly unpopular.

Most people recognize the truth about this: That I have an agenda against a certain person because THAT person had an agenda against those I care about. That does not mean anyone else is in the line of fire. This is an isolated incident, and it doesn't make me a psychopath, a rapist OR a McDregs cook.

 

[heavyhitter01]

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I just collected it all in the same place.[/QUOTE]


Which is why any SANE woman, will not want a bar of you should TL one day decide to get a little of her own back and show them this thread.

Okay. So let's say she does.

I prefer someone who is intensely curious, unafraid to question me, at least tries to understand any situation and is open-minded enough to see all sides. A woman who takes this thread at face value, doesn't ask about the backstory, and doesn't take the time to understand why I did what I did is not the kind of woman I would want to have in my life anyway.

 

[Lord Pmann]

Interestingly enough, women tend to like honesty. Who knew?! And they tend to appreciate someone who is willing to stand up for what he believes, even when it makes him incredibly unpopular.

Most people recognize the truth about this: That I have an agenda against a certain person because THAT person had an agenda against those I care about. That does not mean anyone else is in the line of fire. This is an isolated incident, and it doesn't make me a psychopath, a rapist OR a McDregs cook.

You are confusing this with honesty? Noooooooo. Not the case. Just because you are honest about something doesn't mean it is a good thing. That's not close to correct.

If you feel so strongly that this is thread is a good example of your character, why don't you show this thread to your next girlfriend? I bet she'd be creeped out by it.

Girls like honesty. What they don't like is Charles Bronson style behaviour.

 

[heavyhitter01]

No, but it doesn't make you someone you'd want to invest your heart or trust in.

If I was a potential love interest in the real world and someone just happened to point me to this thread, I would never trust you with anything important about me and my life, I would certainly never feel safe with you, and they're pretty important factors in any successful relationship.

Then you and I would never work out. I'm so sorry to hear that.

But just because YOU view me a certain way does not speak for the rest of the world, or the rest of the female population. What makes you feel "unsafe" might make others feel reassured, depending upon how you view the situation.

 

[heavyhitter01]

You are confusing this with honesty? Noooooooo. Not the case. Just because you are honest about something doesn't mean it is a good thing. That's not close to correct.

If you feel so strongly that this is thread is a good example of your character, why don't you show this thread to your next girlfriend? I bet she'd be creeped out by it.

Girls like honesty. What they don't like is Charles Bronson style behaviour.

I have no problem showing this thread to someone I might be interested in. Why would I? Just because you are "creeped out" by something doesn't mean other people view it the same way.

 

[Lord Pmann]

I have no problem showing this thread to someone I might be interested in. Why would I? Just because you are "creeped out" by something doesn't mean other people view it the same way.

I'm not saying I'm God's gift to women (I am), but I do know a thing or two about what girls like. And the vast majority of girls I know would be creeped out by this. It seems obsessive. And girls don't like obsessive. I'm sure you may find one or two girls somewhere that don't find it weird. But the majority would.

 

[heavyhitter01]

I'm not saying I'm God's gift to women (I am), but I do know a thing or two about what girls like. And the vast majority of girls I know would be creeped out by this. It seems obsessive. And girls don't like obsessive. I'm sure you may find one or two girls somewhere that don't find it weird. But the majority would.

If they took this thread at face value, perhaps.

But if they were curious enough to get the rest of the story, and cared enough to get to know me and understand my motivations, then their view just might change. Maybe they still might not like it, but at least they would be making an informed decision, and not simply saying "he's obsessed" as a knee-jerk reaction.

I don't think you are giving women -- and especially the women who lurk around here -- anything even close to the credit they deserve.

 

[heavyhitter01]

I feel sad for you HH, because you just really don't know the damage you're doing to yourself here.

I'm doing just fine. But I'm sorry the thread saddens you. Maybe you should go back to playing on the fluffy threads?

 

[KierstH12]

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[Lord Pmann]

I don't think you are giving women -- and especially the women who lurk around here -- anything even close to the credit they deserve.

I'm giving them loads of credit. Because nearly everyone has come in here and disagreed with you. So I'm not speaking on their behalf. I'm basically summing it up. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, ladies. (and I didn't say that with the normal, creepy "Laaaadies" voice that most guys use- my voice is delightful)

 

[Lord Pmann]

No, no, no! You cannot be this stupid!

This may be one of the best things written in this thread. Seriously. I mean, next to my posts of course.

 

[heavyhitter01]

No, no, no! You cannot be this stupid! No woman interested in dating is going to come to this thread and decide you are a gentleman and hero. They will read the great lengths you have gone to to out TL and the first thought they will have is *I wonder what happens if I anger him or decide to break up with him?*. They will run for the hills for fear of what retaliation you will unleash on them if they cross you or anger you.

No woman will read this thread and swoon over you because they think you are fighting the good fight over evil. What you are doing is creepy and vile.

Her actions do not deserve your actions.

And another one joins the chorus.

Look at it from the other side of the coin for a minute, if you can be bothered to do such a thing. Let me state again that this is an ISOLATED incident. Those who have taken the time to understand the full story behind the situation have a much better grasp of who I really am than anyone posting here possibly could.

But regardless, this thread on Literotica is just one tiny snippet of my life. It's just one very, very small facet of who I am. If you really think that this thread, and my actions detailed within, are going to be the final verdict on how people feel about me once they really know the rest of me, you are definitely living in a bubble.

 

[heavyhitter01]

I'm giving them loads of credit. Because nearly everyone has come in here and disagreed with you. So I'm not speaking on their behalf. I'm basically summing it up. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, ladies. (and I didn't say that with the normal, creepy "Laaaadies" voice that most guys use- my voice is delightful)

Nearly everyone?

That's where the narrow view comes in. How many different posters are here on this thread? Perhaps a dozen? Let's get crazy and say that 20 individual posters have said their piece. Let's say that the vast majority of those are women.

And there are how many views? Lots more than the repeated views of 20 or so posters. I'm sure we can all agree on that.

How many of those lurkers have chosen to jump in? Not many, I'm guessing. How many of them have sent PMs? More than you would think.

Like I said, you aren't giving the women here on this site nearly enough credit. They are much more open-minded and curious than you might think, and they definitely have their own opinions -- which, amazingly enough, don't always correspond with yours.

 

[heavyhitter01]

The thread doesn't make me sad. I feel sad for you, there's a big difference. How do you know I play in the fluffy threads? Collecting information again?

I have no need to collect information on you. You're not ms_intrigue, are you?

 

[KierstH12]

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[Lord Pmann]

And another one joins the chorus.

Look at it from the other side of the coin for a minute, if you can be bothered to do such a thing. Let me state again that this is an ISOLATED incident. Those who have taken the time to understand the full story behind the situation have a much better grasp of who I really am than anyone posting here possibly could.

But regardless, this thread on Literotica is just one tiny snippet of my life. It's just one very, very small facet of who I am. If you really think that this thread, and my actions detailed within, are going to be the final verdict on how people feel about me once they really know the rest of me, you are definitely living in a bubble.

Your logic baffles me. Yes, this may be one small snippet of your life. But follow this logic with me.

Let's say I am a really good guy. I do good things. I go to church. I treat women with respect. I'm practically an angel. And to top it off, I make the best damn McRib in the south. But, this one time, I fucked a goat.

You see how that one event overshadows the rest?

I'll put it into cooking terms for you. Let's say you're making some McSoup. You have a big ass pot and you put all these ingredients in there. It's very good soup, even though it might have carrots in there or something else I don't like. But then you drop a turd inside that soup. Instantly, your McSoup becomes McShit. So even though some of the other ingredients are great, the turd ruins it all.

In case you don't follow parables well, you are the soup. This thread is the shit. The broth is the good aspect of you (I'm taking a leap there). The carrots are the things that I don't like, but I can eat around and deal with. So those are your bad habits like scratching your ass and picking your nose. But then there is the shit. It just makes it too vile for consumption.