How To Get To Heaven When You Die

[Stewart_Pidd]

Are you saying that I am 99% an atheist?

You are indeed a 99.9% atheist bro.

Stew

 

[Tryharder62]

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[Fuzzy1975]

I just heard that 73000 muslims converted to Christianity in one day!

You seem to hear lots of strange things.... voices in your head?

Like you are one of those my religion is better than your religion people too...chuckles

 

[Tryharder62]

My family's friend seems like he will pull though. He is listed as stable now. Trying not to freak out about my job and my husbands business. Home with my boys. They are busy most of the time finishing their college semester online. My son spent his 19th birthday at home quarantined with us. We made a funny post on facebook about partying with your mom on your 19th birthday! LOL We had to go down the basement and spend quite awhile because of a Tornado Warning. Two hit very close to us. One went over our historic courthouse which is 2 blocks from my house and over our schools. Luckily it only touched down in a farm field. The video someone took is crazy scary. Nothing was damaged. My son said he will never forget that birthday! Hope you and yours are all doing well.

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[Tryharder62]

Be safe everyone it's going to be a bumpy ride.

So are you pre-trib or post-trib?? Things be gettin' funky!!!

 

[Fuzzy1975]

My family's friend seems like he will pull though. He is listed as stable now. Trying not to freak out about my job and my husbands business. Home with my boys. They are busy most of the time finishing their college semester online. My son spent his 19th birthday at home quarantined with us. We made a funny post on facebook about partying with your mom on your 19th birthday! LOL We had to go down the basement and spend quite awhile because of a Tornado Warning. Two hit very close to us. One went over our historic courthouse which is 2 blocks from my house and over our schools. Luckily it only touched down in a farm field. The video someone took is crazy scary. Nothing was damaged. My son said he will never forget that birthday! Hope you and yours are all doing well.

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It is nice to know you have some good news. Don't worry about what you can't control, and live everyday as if it is your last one. Tomorrow will be there, if you are...

 

[Fuzzy1975]

Over 73,000 Muslims Accepted Jesus As Lord And Savior In Pakistan (video)

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"While the world may seem to be in turmoil because of coronavirus, God’s work cannot be stopped as 73,929 people accepted Jesus as their Lord and Savior in Pakistan.

According to Wikipedia, Pakistan has the second-largest number of Muslims in the world. They comprise more than 95 percent of the population.

A Crusade In Pakistan
On March 7th 2020, a Christian crusade in Pakistan took place. More than 80,000 people were said to have attended the prayer festival.
Witnesses from the event said that the rain poured down straight for four days before the day of the crusade. However, “the clouds parted and the rain stopped an hour and a half before the crusade began.” And amazingly, the rain never came back for the entire remainder of the event. Moreover, Pakistanis who were present in the crusade witnessed God’s healing power and miracles!

Preaching The Gospel
In the video, Pastor Craig Walker preached the Gospel to mostly unbelieving Pakistanis.
“Pakistan belongs to Jesus!” Pastor Craig declared.
Also, he shared with them the reality of the Presence of Jesus, “He is walking through that crowd tonight.”
“And God knew that you would be here this night. He has a plan for you,” added Pastor Craig. He continued to preach sharing, “He came out of the tomb. He is alive tonight!”

Then Pastor Craig immediately challenged the audience to accept Jesus in their hearts. Right then and there, everyone stood up in response to the call. And 73,929 accepted Jesus as their Lord and Savior. Thousands were saved in just one day."

See proof you are one of those, "my religion" is better than yours...chuckles

Question? What is the difference between fisherAmen and xfrodobagginsx?

Answer: Nothing, just a name change to hide his previous idiocy....chuckles

 

[Tryharder62]

It is nice to know you have some good news. Don't worry about what you can't control, and live everyday as if it is your last one. Tomorrow will be there, if you are...

Thank you Fuzzy! I needed that!

 

[Fuzzy1975]

Thank you Fuzzy! I needed that!

Your Welcome, I find you to be a ray of sunshine on these threads, so I'm glad I can offer you a little back.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

I believe that there is one truth and one way to God and Jesus Christ is that Truth and Way as Jesus Himself said. All others are a lie.

Joh 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

Good for you!!

So why the name change?

Remember "Thou shalt not lie"

 

[Tryharder62]

Pre Trib. Aren't most people? How about you?

Yep pre-trib. Just thought to bring up a topic of conversation! Hope all is well. What's up at your church?

 

[Fuzzy1975]

I believe that there is one truth and one way to God and Jesus Christ is that Truth and Way as Jesus Himself said. All others are a lie.

Joh 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

Good for you!!

So why the name change?

Remember "Thou shalt not lie"

Not going to answer eh?

Well at least you seem to follow one of the Ten Commandments...

 

[Tryharder62]

My Church has been putting services on line, Facebook, Youtube & the Local channel. I am a Worship Leader there, but they have since paused the main music program until this is all over. So, like everyone else, I sit at home and watch it online.

Ya, me too. Pastor is doing a little devotional every night at 7:00 pm online and then the same as you except for the local TV. The pastor does a radio program weekly on the Christian radio statiion around here even before the Coronavirus.

Concerned about my job. Everyone is hourly but me so they aren't getting paid. I have a contract with the hospital and church I work with so right now I am being paid. Using my vacation time. Was asked a couple questions about my contract. Long story short church not getting money. Hospital losing money. Good time to decrease what is considered non-essential parts of the current needs of the hospital. One day at a time. You affected financially?

Well....Keep on keepin on! Stay safe.

So are you a sprinkling church or a dunker. Infant or age of accountability? Lol

 

[Tryharder62]

Yes I lost 50% of my business the first week 95% the second. I am a bit worried but God is in control.

Oh man, I am sorry to hear this. You must have a business besides being worship leader. I will pray for you! (Seriously)

 

[colddiesel]

My Church has been putting services on line, Facebook, Youtube & the Local channel. I am a Worship Leader there, but they have since paused the main music program until this is all over. So, like everyone else, I sit at home and watch it online.

Which is your church, is it Catholic or Eastern Orthodox because they sometimes have worship leaders.

And what is trib or pre-trib? never heard the term before.

 

[phrodeau]

Which is your church, is it Catholic or Eastern Orthodox because they sometimes have worship leaders.

And what is trib or pre-trib? never heard the term before.

Most Christians anticipate four events, the Tribulation, the Rapture, the Second Coming and the Millennium. Nobody can figure out for sure which order they’ll happen in.

 

[Tryharder62]

Which is your church, is it Catholic or Eastern Orthodox because they sometimes have worship leaders.

And what is trib or pre-trib? never heard the term before.

Most Christians anticipate four events, the Tribulation, the Rapture, the Second Coming and the Millennium. Nobody can figure out for sure which order they’ll happen in.

Right again phrodeau. The thing at the center of the discussion is the rapture. Most believe if you had to order things it is the tribulation, the second coming of Christ, and the mellenium. There are differences in where the rapture is placed in that order.

Rapture: an end-time event when all Christian believers who are alive, along with resurrected believers, will rise to meet the Lord.

A lot believe that he will take believers before the tribulation- which will last 7 years and will be a very nasty time. Some believe that believers have to experience the tribulation and a smaller number believe the rapture will come in the middle of the tribulation

This is all laid out in the prophecy contained in Revelation - the last book of the Bible. It is a really intense book to decipher. . It doesn't affect one's salvation if there is disagreement.

 

[Brains_N_Boobs]

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[phrodeau]

Right again phrodeau. The thing at the center of the discussion is the rapture. Most believe if you had to order things it is the tribulation, the second coming of Christ, and the mellenium. There are differences in where the rapture is placed in that order.

Rapture: an end-time event when all Christian believers who are alive, along with resurrected believers, will rise to meet the Lord.

A lot believe that he will take believers before the tribulation- which will last 7 years and will be a very nasty time. Some believe that believers have to experience the tribulation and a smaller number believe the rapture will come in the middle of the tribulation

This is all laid out in the prophecy contained in Revelation - the last book of the Bible. It is a really intense book to decipher. . It doesn't affect one's salvation if there is disagreement.

No reasonable person can read Revelation and think it’s the work of a reliable narrator describing real events.

 

[Tryharder62]

No reasonable person can read Revelation and think it’s the work of a reliable narrator describing real events.

I bet they thought that about the prophecies of the old testament until Jesus fulfilled them. All I know is that when the trumpet toots...I'm gonna scoot.

 

[colddiesel]

I am not a Catholic nor am I Orthodox and I do not go to either of those types of Churches. I am a Bible believing Christian. I am pre Trib rapture believer.

So what is your church? Catholics, Orthodox and many other sorts of Christians have a belief in the Bible so presumably you will be happy whichever church folks join?

I do not understand why you are so bashful about identifying your own church. Tryharder was very clear which church she was with.

I think this question is important because the community work of any religious organization is far more important than theological nicety.

 

[Tryharder62]

I am not a Catholic or Orthodox nor do I attend a Catholic or Orthodox Church.

I do not believe Catholic or Orthodox Churches are Biblically accurate in their Doctrine, so I would not recommend attending them.

I don't like to push my own Church because Salvation doesn't come through a Church and I don't want to confuse people. I believe that the Baptists, Southern Baptists, ect., the Grace Church movement as with Les Feldick are most in line with what the Bible actually Teaches, but that isn't the only Church that teaches the truth. Some Methodist Churches, Presbyterian Churches and other Churches preach the true Gospel, but also many do not. There are also Baptist Church Denominations that teach false Doctrine.

My beliefs are as such:

1)God is a Triune God existing in Father, Son & Holy Spirit.

2)The Bible is God's Inspired Word of God 100% True and God Breathed

3)Salvation is by Grace (Something God does for you that you cannot do for yourself) through Faith (Believing and Trusting God) believing that Jesus Christ died and rose again, shedding His blood as a Sacrifice for your sins.

4) Baptism, The Lord's Supper (Communion) are ordinances and do not cause salvation nor is it part of salvation.

5) You cannot get to heaven by being a good person, going to Church, Baptism or good deeds or any kind. It's by faith in Christ alone, see point 3. If we could be good enough to get to heaven by being good , then Jesus Christ died for nothing.

6) If the Church, Priest or anyone else contradicts the Bible that person is wrong and the Bible is right.

Les Feldick.....really?

 

[Tryharder62]

LOVE Les Feldick. He is one of the greatest Bible teachers I have ever heard. Have you watched him? His knowledge is incredible. He gives the back ground of the situation when the book is written, who it is written to, the Circumstances surrounding it. That's all important when interpreting Scripture.

No, I have to be honest, I have not. I have heard he is kind of out there - believing in hyperdispensationalism. Insinuating that salvation in Christ is different for Jews and Gentiles. Essentially saying there are two gospels and the teachings of Jesus are not binding now to us as "the church" but were an offer to the Jewish people that they declined. Only what Paul taught after he received the holy spirit and received instruction is applicable now. They misuse 2 Timothy 2:15 to divide the new testament. Only the books that Paul wrote are meant for the church, they say. Les Feldick doesn't believe in traditional baptism either which may be why you didn't answer my question.

Please correct me if I am wrong. The Grace Movement is concerning.

 

[Tryharder62]

I have always been a Dispensationalist until I heard Les Feldick. Yes, he believes that the Jews who were saved before Paul were under the Gospel of the Kingdom and those under Grace are under the Gospel of Grace. I was very skeptical of him when I first heard him. It's not that the teachings of Jesus aren't binding to the Grace age believer, it's just that the program has changed temporarily during this age of Grace. It's not 1 Timothy that divides. What he believes is that only Paul's writings were written to those under this current age of Grace and all other writings were written to the Jews under Law. It's mid Acts that he says where the Grace age Church begins and I particularly believe it is when Steven was stoned and Paul was called by God to Preach. I disagree with the teaching that water Baptism is abolished because there is no where in Paul's writings that abolishes it. Which question didn't I answer?

After studying the Word with Les Feldick, I believe that he is correct in most of his teachings. A lot of things that I couldn't understand my whole life have been made clear and easy to understand by dividing the Word properly. It took me a couple of years to fully grasp how the Bible fits, but I couldn't refute his teachings because they all fit with the Word and you must believe the Scriptures above all else.
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The difference between the Gospel of the Kingdom and the Gospel of Grace:

The Gospel of the Kingdom is to the Jews who were still under the law. Besides keeping the law, they were to repent of their unbelief, accept Jesus Christ as their Messiah and be Baptized (John's Baptism of Repentance).

The Gospel of Grace is simply placing your faith in Jesus Christ, believing in your heart that He died and rose again, shedding His blood as a Sacrifice for your sins.

After the Grace age believers are Raptured, the Gospel of the Kingdom will once again be in effect for the 7 year Tribulation until Christ returns physically to the earth. The Grace age is an interruption in the Biblical time line because the Jews rejected their Messiah, so it gives the Gentiles a chance to be saved and become the Bride of Christ. Don't get me wrong, The Gospel of the Kingdom, although primarily to the Jew was open to the Gentiles and vice versa, the Gospel of Grace, although primarily to the Gentile is open to the Jews as well.

For those that have asked - our friend who had Corona died this morning. He suddenly went from being stable to being very ill. His wife was not allowed to be with him. She had to isolate at home and has passed the 14 day quarantine without signs or symptoms. Thank you for your thoughts.

The only thing that I know for sure, FisherAmen, is that the more I study the Bible it seems the more there is to learn. Lol

I don't think there are two separate gospels, one for Jews and one for Gentiles. The only reason the Jews were still under the law was because they were being taught about grace. (What was going to happen once Jesus died on the cross for the forgiveness of our sins.) Once Jesus died and was resurrected then everyone was under the Gospel of Grace.

Are you saying that when the tribulation comes people who haven't believed will be back under the Law? I'm surprised if you were dispensationalist that you would go for this.

Do you only accept the King James Version? It is the only translation the translates rightly dividing the word of truth in 2 Timothy 2:15. The other translations go more like correctly applying the word of truth.

I had asked you if you were a sprinkler or a dunker? Infant or age of accountability. I can see why you passed over that. Hey take care and be safe! I look forward to more conversations about this!

 

[Fuzzy1975]

For those that have asked - our friend who had Corona died this morning. He suddenly went from being stable to being very ill. His wife was not allowed to be with him. She had to isolate at home and has passed the 14 day quarantine without signs or symptoms. Thank you for your thoughts.

My deepest sympathies.