How do Christians negatively affect your life?

[ll74]

mmmm maybe. We can amicably agree to disagree. Or at least, I dont know but am choosing to believe that isnt accurate.

I don't advocate for people to be religious....please don't think otherwise.

I'm not nor do I want to be

 

[Hel_Books]

Religion (whichever you want to pick some are more sucessful than others) is the underpinning of a stable society. The historical records and observable reality of today demonstrate this with amazing consistency.

Which historical records? The trial of Galileo? Mohammed's child brides? "Deo Vindice" the motto of the Confederacy? The 7 October terrorist attacks? Restrictive covenants forbidding Jews from living in certain neighbourhoods in the USA?

How about Ephesians 6:5-9?

5 Slaves, obey your earthly masters with respect and trembling, in singleness of heart, as you obey Christ, 6 not with a slavery performed merely for looks, to please people, but as slaves of Christ, doing the will of God from the soul. 7 Render service with enthusiasm, as for the Lord and not for humans, 8 knowing that whatever good we do, we will receive the same again from the Lord, whether we are enslaved or free.

Good people do good.
Evil people do evil.
But to persuade good people to do evil, religion is required.

 

[LilKitKat]

Then you should be able to point to a civilization of some notable sucess that didn't have a religious foundation of some kind......just one would be fine and I'll concede you win the "religion is poison" argument.

A civilization of some success without a religious foundation.
Id like you to clarify if you dont mind, if you mean...became successful over the course of time and doesnt really have much religion NOW, or do you mean...did it not ever really have some religion? Because 1000, 2000, 3000 etc years ago, everyone believed in gods and whatever.

 

[Chadrone]

no, "retard" is not a very polite term.

LOL

Not all Muslims are terrorists.
Also not all terrorists are Muslims.

I didn't say they were. You're arguing against an argument YOU made up for me.

FUN!!

Most people who have shot up schools, movie theaters, shopping malls, night clubs, concerts are White male Christians. Should I hate all of them?

No and I didn't say you should hate all muslims.

You COULD however admit they LOVE proselytizing and are in fact some of the most zealous proselytizers of the modern era....but I understand your ego can't let you ever be wrong about anything so go back to deflecting to "WHITEE!! WHITE MAILZ REEE!!!" LOL

Oh wait...you think all liberals, and all females hate all white males.

Well I don't think most females are liberal.....ya'll fucking hate liberty, and are very authoritarian.

And you do hate white males, that's why you dehumanize and degrade them every chance you get, support institutionalized discrimination against them and call it "equality" LOL

And then call yourselves LIBERAL!!! LMFAO!!! ......

I forgot.
Nevermind.
Go back to your delusions.

Says the lady who made up a bunch of arguments for herself to argue with

 

[Hel_Books]

Then you should be able to point to a civilization of some notable sucess that didn't have a religious foundation of some kind......just one would be fine and I'll concede you win the "religion is poison" argument.

The fact that humans have been superstitious, and so have had religion, doesn't mean that religion makes your civilisation "worth a shit."

Humanity has had slavery (endorsed by the Bible!) for a long time. That doesn't mean the institution of slavery is what makes a civilisation "worth a shit." It's a stain on civilisation, not a bright spot!

Good people do good.
Evil people do evil.
But to persuade good people to do evil, religion is required.

(Anticipating those of you protesting B-b-b-b-but the B-b-b-bible doesn't endorse slavery!" read

Ephesians 6:5-9

5 Slaves, obey your earthly masters with respect and trembling, in singleness of heart, as you obey Christ, 6 not with a slavery performed merely for looks, to please people, but as slaves of Christ, doing the will of God from the soul. 7 Render service with enthusiasm, as for the Lord and not for humans, 8 knowing that whatever good we do, we will receive the same again from the Lord, whether we are enslaved or free.)

 

[Chadrone]

Which historical records?

Any and all of them.

The trial of Galileo? Mohammed's child brides? "Deo Vindice" the motto of the Confederacy? The 7 October terrorist attacks? Restrictive covenants forbidding Jews from living in certain neighbourhoods in the USA?

How about Ephesians 6:5-9?

5 Slaves, obey your earthly masters with respect and trembling, in singleness of heart, as you obey Christ, 6 not with a slavery performed merely for looks, to please people, but as slaves of Christ, doing the will of God from the soul. 7 Render service with enthusiasm, as for the Lord and not for humans, 8 knowing that whatever good we do, we will receive the same again from the Lord, whether we are enslaved or free.

Good people do good.
Evil people do evil.
But to persuade good people to do evil, religion is required.

"BUT BAD THINGS!!" yes...again bad people and bad shit happen. That doesn't make religion poison to civilization.

Can you name a single civilization of any note that didn't have a religious social foundation??

"REEE BAD THINGS!! REEEEE" isn't actually a response....name the great civilizations of athiesm and "Do whatever the fuck you want!!" please.

 

[Hel_Books]

A civilization of some success without a religious foundation.
Id like you to clarify if you dont mind, if you mean...became successful over the course of time and doesnt really have much religion NOW, or do you mean...did it not ever really have some religion? Because 1000, 2000, 3000 etc years ago, everyone believed in gods and whatever.

That's like saying in those great civilizations people didn't shower regularly and owned slaves, so that must have been the key to ancient Greece and Rome's greatness (pagan, polytheistic civilisations, by the way!)

 

[icanhelp1]

That's just what you used to discredit religion.

"But bad people did bad things!!"



Then why has there never been a civilization of any note without it??

Why has every civilization that tried to get rid of it collapsed into a primative existence?

Religion (whichever you want to pick some are more sucessful than others) is the underpinning of a stable society. The historical records and observable reality of today demonstrate this with amazing consistency.

And you're just ignoring that which is fine but most people do not ignore that and recognize that though they may not belive in this hokey pokey or the other, that religion with reguard to societal and civilizational stability..... is more than just an imagination celebration. Today especially people are starting to realize it's actually very important to having a functioning society and building a progressive/advancing civilization instead of being another 3rd world shit hole.

It doesn't appear some lit posters can't differentiate bad people using religion for evil intentions from religious canon.

 

[LilKitKat]

LOL



I didn't say they were. You're arguing against an argument YOU made up for me.

FUN!!



No and I didn't say you should hate all muslims.

You COULD however admit they LOVE proselytizing and are in fact some of the most zealous proselytizers of the modern era....but I understand your ego can't let you ever be wrong about anything so go back to deflecting to "WHITEE!! WHITE MAILZ REEE!!!" LOL



Well I don't think most females are liberal.....ya'll fucking hate liberty, and are very authoritarian.

And you do hate white males, that's why you dehumanize and degrade them every chance you get, support institutionalized discrimination against them and call it "equality" LOL

And then call yourselves LIBERAL!!! LMFAO!!! ......



Says the lady who made up a bunch of arguments for herself to argue with

some people of the islam faithg do proselytize. but in general, its christians.
anyway, please point to any thread, post, whatever...where i said i hate white males.
ill wait...until the end of time.
there are none.
because i dont.

do i strongly dislike many republicans, of which many are white males? yep. but they could be female, black, latina, chinese, indian, hindu, i dont care. i tend to not care for most republicans.

i have nothing against white males other than showing evidence that for example, most mass shooters are white males.
but for example, my father is a white male. i have nothing but love for my father.
anyway, please point to where i...or for that matter...ANY PERSON ON THIS THREAD THAT GENERALLY CONSIDERS THEMSELVES TO BE LIBERAL...has said they hate all white men.

 

[LilKitKat]

That's like saying in those great civilizations people didn't shower regularly and owned slaves, so that must have been the key to ancient Greece and Rome's greatness (pagan, polytheistic civilisations, by the way!)

I was asking for clarification...because for example, China and Japan are not very religious as a whole.
Both are highly successful nations.
But "way back when" of course they were religious.
Hence...wanted to know what he meant.

 

[Hel_Books]

"BUT BAD THINGS!!" yes...again bad people and bad shit happen. That doesn't make religion poison to civilization.

Can you name a single civilization of any note that didn't have a religious social foundation??

"REEE BAD THINGS!! REEEEE" isn't actually a response....name the great civilizations of athiesm and "Do whatever the fuck you want!!" please.

Humans have always been superstitious. That doesn't mean superstition is the key to civilisation!

In fact, the correlation goes the other way: great civilisations, like classical Greece and Rome, or Europe during the Enlightenment, have been civilisations where religion has been kept on the "back burner" as it were.

The foundations of civilisation, from the primitive use of fire and cultivation of crops to the evolution of modern representative government and free markets were certainly not built on religious principles!

 

[Chadrone]

For a majority of people, they could never be atheist because they'd likely do horrible things.

This^^...... then even many of those who could within a civilized society wouldn't be able to stop when surrounded by the other humans who've gone feral. It's survival mode for everyone and that gets real ugly real fast.

That's like saying in those great civilizations people didn't shower regularly and owned slaves, so that must have been the key to ancient Greece and Rome's greatness (pagan, polytheistic civilisations, by the way!)

It's actually not, you're just deflecting from the fact that religion plays an important role in civilized society because it contradicts your hatred of it.

 

[Chadrone]

Humans have always been superstitious. That doesn't mean superstition is the key to civilisation!

Then name a single one that was without it...........or even didn't collapse almost immidiately after trying to purge it??

JUST ONE.

 

[LilKitKat]

Humans have always been superstitious. That doesn't mean superstition is the key to civilisation!

In fact, the correlation goes the other way: great civilisations, like classical Greece and Rome, or Europe during the Enlightenment, have been civilisations where religion has been kept on the "back burner" as it were.

The foundations of civilisation, from the primitive use of fire and cultivation of crops to the evolution of modern representative government and free markets were certainly not built on religious principles!

In general I agree with you.
However, Zeus, Athena, Poseidon etc may disagree.

 

[Chadrone]

The foundations of civilisation, from the primitive use of fire and cultivation of crops to the evolution of modern representative government and free markets were certainly not built on religious principles!

No but the social cohesion that allowed them was.

 

[Hel_Books]

Hel_Books said:
That's like saying in those great civilizations people didn't shower regularly and owned slaves, so that must have been the key to ancient Greece and Rome's greatness (pagan, polytheistic civilisations, by the way!)

It's actually not, you're just deflecting from the fact that religion plays an important role in civilized society because it contradicts your hatred of it.

You say that religion plays an important role. Indeed it does. You haven't given any indication whatever that this is a positive role, though!

Ephesians 6:5-9

5 Slaves, obey your earthly masters with respect and trembling, in singleness of heart, as you obey Christ, 6 not with a slavery performed merely for looks, to please people, but as slaves of Christ, doing the will of God from the soul. 7 Render service with enthusiasm, as for the Lord and not for humans, 8 knowing that whatever good we do, we will receive the same again from the Lord, whether we are enslaved or free.

That's an example of the role religion has played in society.

 

[Chadrone]

some people of the islam faithg do proselytize. but in general, its christians.

LOL it's literally not and the exact opposite but sure. Just keep on that islamophilic narrative.

Jihad is just a right wing CONSPIRACY.....LGBTQ supporter for Hamas am I right???

ANY PERSON ON THIS THREAD THAT GENERALLY CONSIDERS THEMSELVES TO BE LIBERAL...has said they hate all white men.

Oh you mean the authoritarian leftoids?? LOL

Not all just the ones who don't cuck/simp and apologize for being white and male like good "progressives" who SHOULD be ashamed of being born male or white, how horrible of a thing to be!

Oh and your support for the institutionalized opproession/discrimination against whites and men kind means you can't escape your hatred of whitee...especially the mailz.

 

[Chadrone]

You say that religion plays an important role. Indeed it does. You haven't given any indication whatever that this is a positive role, though!

Again, can you name a civilization that's ever been of any note that hasn't been built on a religion of some kind???

That's an example of the role religion has played in society.

Slavery gets shit done.

I'll keep waiting for you to name a civilization that was ever jack or shit that didn't have a religious social glue of some kind.......

You're so right, please tell us which civilization that was consiquential enough to wind up in any history books got there on "There is no god, everyone do whatever the fuck you want!!" because we all know you've got a list of them right??

 

[LilKitKat]

LOL it's literally not and the exact opposite but sure. Just keep on that islamophilic narrative.

Jihad is just a right wing CONSPIRACY.....LGBTQ supporter for Hamas am I right???



Oh you mean the authoritarian leftoids?? LOL

Not all just the ones who don't cuck/simp and apologize for being white and male like good "progressives" who SHOULD be ashamed of being born male or white, how horrible of a thing to be!

Oh and your support for the institutionalized opproession/discrimination against whites and men kind means you can't escape your hatred of whitee...especially the mailz.

still waiting for that post where I hate white males

 

[Hel_Books]

Hel_Books said:
Humans have always been superstitious. That doesn't mean superstition is the key to civilisation!

Then name a single one that was without it...........or even didn't collapse almost immidiately after trying to purge it??

JUST ONE.

Every civilisation has had cats. That doesn't mean cats are the key to civilisation.

I've given you examples of how religion has impeded civilisation.

You've given nothing to support your view.

Once again, Ephesians 6:5-9

5 Slaves, obey your earthly masters with respect and trembling, in singleness of heart, as you obey Christ, 6 not with a slavery performed merely for looks, to please people, but as slaves of Christ, doing the will of God from the soul. 7 Render service with enthusiasm, as for the Lord and not for humans, 8 knowing that whatever good we do, we will receive the same again from the Lord, whether we are enslaved or free.

 

[Chadrone]

still waiting for that post where I hate white males

Oh I'm sorry, I didn't realize you were a MAGA Nazi. Glad to have you on our side.

 

[Hel_Books]

In general I agree with you.
However, Zeus, Athena, Poseidon etc may disagree.

Fortunately, they no more exist than do the monotheistic gods!

 

[LilKitKat]

Oh I'm sorry, I didn't realize you were a MAGA Nazi. Glad to have you on our side.

Are all MAGA white males? Are all white males MAGA?
Ok then.
Still waiting for my post where I hate all white males.

All nazis, sure, happy to cop to that. I hope most people feel the same.
Do I hate all MAGA? I dont know if I'd use the word hate so much as strongly dislike and shake my head at ya...

so...still waiting.

 

[LilKitKat]

Fortunately, they no more exist than do the monotheistic gods!

Well, I tend to agree with you but no one knows for sure, hence me being agnostic

 

[Hel_Books]

Hel_Books said:
The foundations of civilisation, from the primitive use of fire and cultivation of crops to the evolution of modern representative government and free markets were certainly not built on religious principles!

No but the social cohesion that allowed them was.

Wrong again. But please keep trying.