Have abortionists failed in their attempt to overthrow the Supreme Court?

[iso36]

Discuss.

 

[lovecraft68]

If they're infertile they wouldn't need an abortion
Thanks for proving why abortion should always be an option

 

[mayfly13]

oh look.
Matt Gaetz granddaddy posting

 

[mayfly13]

Ellie Talbot nailed the r v wade debate with this astute observation:

“The case was made on the pretext that the illegality of abortion was a violation of a woman's private right to choose what to do with her body. That's a false pretext, because it ignores the real question, which is whether or not abortion is the murder of another human being with its own rights. Roe v. Wade was built on a cowardly avoidance of that question. “

Ellie Talbot, who is a Rep pro-lifer I understand -, is being just as dishonest as the far-Left pro-choicers are.
Because she leaves out the other half of the ethical dilemma - do we save on life while ruining another one? Which life has more value?

In order for reps to have any moral standing on this one, they need to prove that they did everything to improve the mother's quality of life and chances for a decent life.
In saying that, the "abortion is a healthcare issue like diabetes or dental care" is doing a disservice to moderate pro-choicers.

 

[mayfly13]

Since when is having a baby “ruining a life”?

Sure… This forum is FULL of ruined, desperately unhappy women.

But we can’t go by that.

That would be like saying luk and rob represent the failure of all men!

go on and troll along
you said nothing about fathering with any of the hundreds of nubiles you say you slept with
steel preservs? abortions? illegitimate Lances running about?

 

[LukSkyFokker]

That would be like saying luk

 

[Rightguide]

Looking for the right phrase to accurately and properly describe the us-based infertile women and men here who are angry at the rest of us because they can’t get a free abortion anymore.

Discuss.

I have taken note of the fact that many of the "women" we see demanding abortion rights are older, overweight, sexually undesirable, anti-male harridans, who of course all share the fact that they were allowed to be born. Maybe they just hate life and wish their moms would have aborted them instead. Others have implied the same:

For instance Matt Gaetz:

"Why is it that the women with the least likelihood of getting pregnant are the ones most worried about having abortions?" Gaetz said. "Nobody wants to impregnate you if you look like a thumb."

Gaetz continued: "These people are odious on the inside and out. They're like 5'2, 350 pounds, and they're like, 'Give me my abortions or I'll get up and march and protest,' and I'm thinking, 'March? You look like you got ankles weaker than the legal reasoning behind Roe vs. Wade.' A few of them need to get up and march. They need to get up and march for like an hour a day, swing those arms, get the blood pumping, maybe mix in a salad."

Reporter: "Is it safe to say that, based off your comments, you're suggesting that these women at these abortion rallies are ugly and overweight?"

Gaetz: "Yes."

Reporter: "What do you say to people who think those comments are offensive?"

Gaetz: "Be offended."

And others:

Coulter continued on with two more tweets, sharing pictures of other girls protesting and suggesting that the protestors needed a diet programme. Kivan Bay (“Without Fat Girls”) suggested that perhaps Coulter was implying that skinny girls do not have time to protest because they are too busy doing skinny girl things, like buying jackets or trying on sweaters. Or perhaps Coulter was arguing that fat girls are too visible, too loud, and too big, to be taken seriously in their protests. These tweets provide a point of illustration for how fat women protesting challenge norms of womanhood, the place of women in society, and who has the power to have their say in public spaces While Coulter’s tweet was most likely intended as a hostile personal attack on political grounds, we find it useful in its foregrounding of gender, bodies and protest which we consider in this article, beginning with a review of fat girls’ role in social justice movements.

Across the world, we can point to fat women who engage in activism related to body politics and more. Australian fat filmmaker and activist Kelli Jean Drinkwater makes documentaries, such as Aquaporko! and Nothing to Lose, that queer fat embodiment and confronts body norms. Newly elected Ontario MPP Jill Andrew has been fighting for equal rights for queer people and fat people in Canada for decades. Nigerian Latasha Ngwube founded About That Curvy Life, Africa’s leading body positive and empowerment site, and has organised plus-size fashion show events at Heineken Lagos Fashion and Design Week in Nigeria in 2016 and the Glitz Africa Fashion Week in Ghana in 2017. Fat women have been putting their bodies on the line for the rights of others to live, work, and love. American Heather Heyer was protesting the hate that white nationalists represent and the danger they posed to her friends, family, and neighbours when she died at a rally in Charlottesville, North Carolina in late 2017 (Caron). When Heyer was killed by one of those white nationalists, they declared that she was fat, and therefore her body size was lauded loudly as justification for her death (Bay, “How Nazis Use”; Spangler).

Fat women protesting is not new. For example, the Fat Underground was a group of “radical fat feminist women”, who split off from the more conservative NAAFA (National Association to Aid Fat Americans) in the 1970s (Simic 18). The group educated the public about weight science, harassed weight-loss companies, and disrupted academic seminars on obesity. The Fat Underground made their first public appearance at a Women’s Equality Day in Los Angeles, taking over the stage at the public event to accuse the medical profession of murdering Cass Elliot, the lead singer of the folk music group, The Mamas and the Papas (Dean and Buss). In 1973, the Fat Underground produced the Fat Liberation Manifesto. This Manifesto began by declaring that they believed “that fat people are full entitled to human respect and recognition” (Freespirit and Aldebaran 341).

And it goes on: https://journal.media-culture.org.au/index.php/mcjournal/article/view/1424

 

[Rightguide]

Ellie Talbot, who is a Rep pro-lifer I understand -, is being just as dishonest as the far-Left pro-choicers are.
Because she leaves out the other half of the ethical dilemma - do we save on life while ruining another one? Which life has more value?

In order for reps to have any moral standing on this one, they need to prove that they did everything to improve the mother's quality of life and chances for a decent life.
In saying that, the "abortion is a healthcare issue like diabetes or dental care" is doing a disservice to moderate pro-choicers.

She probably has more honesty in her little finger than you have functioning brain cells.

 

[Rotadom]

I have taken note of the fact that many of the "women" we see demanding abortion rights are older, overweight, sexually undesirable, anti-male harridans, who of course all share the fact that they were allowed to be born. Maybe they just hate life and wish their moms would have aborted them instead. Others have implied the same:

For instance Matt Gaetz:

"Why is it that the women with the least likelihood of getting pregnant are the ones most worried about having abortions?" Gaetz said. "Nobody wants to impregnate you if you look like a thumb."

Gaetz continued: "These people are odious on the inside and out. They're like 5'2, 350 pounds, and they're like, 'Give me my abortions or I'll get up and march and protest,' and I'm thinking, 'March? You look like you got ankles weaker than the legal reasoning behind Roe vs. Wade.' A few of them need to get up and march. They need to get up and march for like an hour a day, swing those arms, get the blood pumping, maybe mix in a salad."

Reporter: "Is it safe to say that, based off your comments, you're suggesting that these women at these abortion rallies are ugly and overweight?"

Gaetz: "Yes."

Reporter: "What do you say to people who think those comments are offensive?"

Gaetz: "Be offended."

And others:

Coulter continued on with two more tweets, sharing pictures of other girls protesting and suggesting that the protestors needed a diet programme. Kivan Bay (“Without Fat Girls”) suggested that perhaps Coulter was implying that skinny girls do not have time to protest because they are too busy doing skinny girl things, like buying jackets or trying on sweaters. Or perhaps Coulter was arguing that fat girls are too visible, too loud, and too big, to be taken seriously in their protests. These tweets provide a point of illustration for how fat women protesting challenge norms of womanhood, the place of women in society, and who has the power to have their say in public spaces While Coulter’s tweet was most likely intended as a hostile personal attack on political grounds, we find it useful in its foregrounding of gender, bodies and protest which we consider in this article, beginning with a review of fat girls’ role in social justice movements.

Across the world, we can point to fat women who engage in activism related to body politics and more. Australian fat filmmaker and activist Kelli Jean Drinkwater makes documentaries, such as Aquaporko! and Nothing to Lose, that queer fat embodiment and confronts body norms. Newly elected Ontario MPP Jill Andrew has been fighting for equal rights for queer people and fat people in Canada for decades. Nigerian Latasha Ngwube founded About That Curvy Life, Africa’s leading body positive and empowerment site, and has organised plus-size fashion show events at Heineken Lagos Fashion and Design Week in Nigeria in 2016 and the Glitz Africa Fashion Week in Ghana in 2017. Fat women have been putting their bodies on the line for the rights of others to live, work, and love. American Heather Heyer was protesting the hate that white nationalists represent and the danger they posed to her friends, family, and neighbours when she died at a rally in Charlottesville, North Carolina in late 2017 (Caron). When Heyer was killed by one of those white nationalists, they declared that she was fat, and therefore her body size was lauded loudly as justification for her death (Bay, “How Nazis Use”; Spangler).

Fat women protesting is not new. For example, the Fat Underground was a group of “radical fat feminist women”, who split off from the more conservative NAAFA (National Association to Aid Fat Americans) in the 1970s (Simic 18). The group educated the public about weight science, harassed weight-loss companies, and disrupted academic seminars on obesity. The Fat Underground made their first public appearance at a Women’s Equality Day in Los Angeles, taking over the stage at the public event to accuse the medical profession of murdering Cass Elliot, the lead singer of the folk music group, The Mamas and the Papas (Dean and Buss). In 1973, the Fat Underground produced the Fat Liberation Manifesto. This Manifesto began by declaring that they believed “that fat people are full entitled to human respect and recognition” (Freespirit and Aldebaran 341).

And it goes on: https://journal.media-culture.org.au/index.php/mcjournal/article/view/1424

Lol, You've obviously never seen the troglodytes who picket outside Planned Parenthood.

 

[iso36]

Here on Lit, most of the people emotionally arguing against the wisdom of the highest court in the land are:

1. Well beyond their baby making years;
2. Have no legal training.


True Americans want the laws of the land to reflect their society, not their selfish insecurities.

Ellie’s post is spot-on.

RvW was incorrectly adjudicated and avoided the real issue:

Is it okay for women to kill unborn babies for their selfish convenience?

 

[Rightguide]

Here on Lit, most of the people emotionally arguing against the wisdom of the highest court in the land are:

1. Well beyond their baby making years;
2. Have no legal training.

Fat, old and ugly is just the gravy.

These are just unhappy people of subnormal intelligence taking out their unhappiness on others.

True Americans want the laws of the land to reflect their society, not their selfish insecurities.

Ellie’s post is spot-on.

RvW was incorrectly adjudicated and avoided the real issue:

Is it okay for women to kill unborn babies for their selfish convenience?

Absolutely right on. I might add to that last line, "and personal irresponsibility.

 

[iso36]

America needs to settle that question.

It was a nasty debate for a few years, but We settled it in Canada in 1970 with decriminalization and clear definitions in our national healthcare legislation.

To be still fighting about it in the USA after 50 years is just wrong.

 

[Rotadom]

Terminating a pregnancy to save the mother's life isn't for "social inconvenience" -- whatever that is.

 

[Rightguide]

America needs to settle that question.

It was a nasty debate for a few years, but We settled it in Canada in 1970 with decriminalization and clear definitions in our national healthcare legislation.

To be still fighting about it in the USA after 50 years is just wrong.

Our system is different than yours.

 

[iso36]

Our system is different than yours.

True. Criminal Justice and Health Care are both Federal, though Health Care is delivered Provincially.

Nonetheless, we had a few years of nastiness until the “Omnibus Bill” of 1970, which settled things like abortion and of special note to luk, sodomy.

 

[Rightguide]

True. Criminal Justice and Health Care are both Federal, though Health Care is delivered Provincially.

Nonetheless, we had a few years of nastiness until the “Omnibus Bill” of 1970, which settled things like abortion and of special note to luk, sodomy.

I think we'll see the states here solve the issue according to the wishes of their majority constituencies. I think there eventually will be a basic set of facts about the right to abortion established with varying restrictions according to the moral values of majorities in each state. Just like each state has its own police powers and enforcement rules for other forms of individual behaviors and actions.

 

[iso36]

I think we'll see the states here solve the issue according to the wishes of their majority constituencies. I think there eventually will be a basic set of facts about the right to abortion established with varying restrictions according to the moral values of majorities in each state. Just like each state has its own police powers and enforcement rules for other forms of individual behaviors and actions.

I think you’re right;

having watched the documentary about the R v Wade case

( Roe was a total nutjob, Adrina could play her with ease)…

I think the whole thing was very poorly decided in the first place.

 

[ll74]

The lengths and time you go through to contort reality so you can fuck with people is quite absurd. Worse is that I know you're proud of yourself for it.

 

[LukSkyFokker]

Even worse is that he's fucking terrible at it and we just laff at his failed efforts.

 

[Rightguide]

yep

I think you’re right;

having watched the documentary about the R v Wade case

( Roe was a total nutjob, Adrina could play her with ease)…

I think the whole thing was very poorly decided in the first place.

Yep, Harry Blackmun authored an injurious insult to the integrity of the black letter text of the Constitution. America suffered under it for almost 50 years before it was rectified. A situation that should never be the case in American jurisprudence. It is simply immoral for Americans to be forced to live under a judicial fiat that has no basis in the law of the land.

 

[icanhelp1]

I have taken note of the fact that many of the "women" we see demanding abortion rights are older, overweight, sexually undesirable, anti-male harridans, who of course all share the fact that they were allowed to be born. Maybe they just hate life and wish their moms would have aborted them instead. Others have implied the same:

For instance Matt Gaetz:

"Why is it that the women with the least likelihood of getting pregnant are the ones most worried about having abortions?" Gaetz said. "Nobody wants to impregnate you if you look like a thumb."

Gaetz continued: "These people are odious on the inside and out. They're like 5'2, 350 pounds, and they're like, 'Give me my abortions or I'll get up and march and protest,' and I'm thinking, 'March? You look like you got ankles weaker than the legal reasoning behind Roe vs. Wade.' A few of them need to get up and march. They need to get up and march for like an hour a day, swing those arms, get the blood pumping, maybe mix in a salad."

Reporter: "Is it safe to say that, based off your comments, you're suggesting that these women at these abortion rallies are ugly and overweight?"

Gaetz: "Yes."

Reporter: "What do you say to people who think those comments are offensive?"

Gaetz: "Be offended."

And others:

Coulter continued on with two more tweets, sharing pictures of other girls protesting and suggesting that the protestors needed a diet programme. Kivan Bay (“Without Fat Girls”) suggested that perhaps Coulter was implying that skinny girls do not have time to protest because they are too busy doing skinny girl things, like buying jackets or trying on sweaters. Or perhaps Coulter was arguing that fat girls are too visible, too loud, and too big, to be taken seriously in their protests. These tweets provide a point of illustration for how fat women protesting challenge norms of womanhood, the place of women in society, and who has the power to have their say in public spaces While Coulter’s tweet was most likely intended as a hostile personal attack on political grounds, we find it useful in its foregrounding of gender, bodies and protest which we consider in this article, beginning with a review of fat girls’ role in social justice movements.

Across the world, we can point to fat women who engage in activism related to body politics and more. Australian fat filmmaker and activist Kelli Jean Drinkwater makes documentaries, such as Aquaporko! and Nothing to Lose, that queer fat embodiment and confronts body norms. Newly elected Ontario MPP Jill Andrew has been fighting for equal rights for queer people and fat people in Canada for decades. Nigerian Latasha Ngwube founded About That Curvy Life, Africa’s leading body positive and empowerment site, and has organised plus-size fashion show events at Heineken Lagos Fashion and Design Week in Nigeria in 2016 and the Glitz Africa Fashion Week in Ghana in 2017. Fat women have been putting their bodies on the line for the rights of others to live, work, and love. American Heather Heyer was protesting the hate that white nationalists represent and the danger they posed to her friends, family, and neighbours when she died at a rally in Charlottesville, North Carolina in late 2017 (Caron). When Heyer was killed by one of those white nationalists, they declared that she was fat, and therefore her body size was lauded loudly as justification for her death (Bay, “How Nazis Use”; Spangler).

Fat women protesting is not new. For example, the Fat Underground was a group of “radical fat feminist women”, who split off from the more conservative NAAFA (National Association to Aid Fat Americans) in the 1970s (Simic 18). The group educated the public about weight science, harassed weight-loss companies, and disrupted academic seminars on obesity. The Fat Underground made their first public appearance at a Women’s Equality Day in Los Angeles, taking over the stage at the public event to accuse the medical profession of murdering Cass Elliot, the lead singer of the folk music group, The Mamas and the Papas (Dean and Buss). In 1973, the Fat Underground produced the Fat Liberation Manifesto. This Manifesto began by declaring that they believed “that fat people are full entitled to human respect and recognition” (Freespirit and Aldebaran 341).

And it goes on: https://journal.media-culture.org.au/index.php/mcjournal/article/view/1424

LMFAO, TOO FUNNY!

 

[Rightguide]

LMFAO, TOO FUNNY!

Some things just need to be said. I love normally adjusted healthy women who care enough about themselves to care for their physical condition. I stay in shape, I watch what I eat and I exercise every day. Right now I'm not looking for a partner in life but when I do I'm going to be looking for the same kind of commitment to staying healthy.

 

[iso36]

Some things just need to be said. I love normally adjusted healthy women who care enough about themselves to care for their physical condition. I stay in shape, I watch what I eat and I exercise every day. Right now I'm not looking for a partner in life but when I do I'm going to be looking for the same kind of commitment to staying healthy.

I also have a strict No Fatties Policy.

Too many saturated fats like butter and cheese are bad for you.

Hunnies with honey are of course just fine.

But no processed sugar babies! All natural sweetness please.

 

[icanhelp1]

Some things just need to be said. I love normally adjusted healthy women who care enough about themselves to care for their physical condition. I stay in shape, I watch what I eat and I exercise every day. Right now I'm not looking for a partner in life but when I do I'm going to be looking for the same kind of commitment to staying healthy.

I often watched the BLM protest, full of fat white women wishing to find a black boyfriend LMFAO

 

[Rightguide]

I often watched the BLM protest, full of fat white women wishing to find a black boyfriend LMFAO

I don't know if they're looking for men or not, but I can tell you their chances are very limited. Those out-of-shape undesirable women screaming their hate for a world that has largely shunned them for surrendering their femininity and deciding to take on the appearance of a middle-aged bull dagger Dyke have only themselves to blame for the likelihood they are going to die alone.