Harsh Comments

[joe32112]

http://www.literotica.com/s/caregiver-1

"CAREGIVER" Kimmy takes care of Daddy while he's sick.

HIYA, Joe32112 HERE Finally got my first story posted. I would love some feedback.

Why are all the comments so harsh in the Taboo category?

Is it because incest is such a harsh subject?

These stories have to find some way of justifying such a thing
and most fall short... ummm yeah right, like that really happened.
Is this why peeps are so cruel?

THANKS A BUNCH

 

[sr71plt]

Yes, the Incest/Taboo category is one known for its harsh comments--especially if the story is about taboo without incest. The incest folks have grabbed the category as solely theirs.

There is extensive periodic discussion on the "harsh comment" categories on the forum. You might want to do some background reading.

 

[lovecraft68]

Yes, the Incest/Taboo category is one known for its harsh comments--especially if the story is about taboo without incest. The incest folks have grabbed the category as solely theirs.

There is extensive periodic discussion on the "harsh comment" categories on the forum. You might want to do some background reading.

Umm lets see here

People who read in the incest category expect incest. Jeez what is wrong with them?

As for the word taboo that is completely in refetence to incest has been since the movie of that name really went ahead and kicked that genre off.

Write a gm story eith all straight people and see where you get. People expect to read what the category is named for.

 

[lovecraft68]

http://www.literotica.com/s/caregiver-1

"CAREGIVER" Kimmy takes care of Daddy while he's sick.

HIYA, Joe32112 HERE Finally got my first story posted. I would love some feedback.

Why are all the comments so harsh in the Taboo category?

Is it because incest is such a harsh subject?

These stories have to find some way of justifying such a thing
and most fall short... ummm yeah right, like that really happened.
Is this why peeps are so cruel?

THANKS A BUNCH

I did not read the story but looked at the comments.

First off and this os my opinion you made a mistake responding to anonymous. That point is proven by another anymouse calling you out for doing so.

Other reason for your issue is the incest crowd wants light and fluffy you are talking cancer and
Death

You are also brand new and have not developed a fan base yet. Trolls love to flame new authors but if you keep writing you will gain fans to drown them out.

Edited to fix the spelling mistakes from my clumsy fingers hitting the tiny keys on my phone. Yeesh, how do these kids type on these things so fast!

 

[sr71plt]

The category title is Incest/Taboo, not just Incest. You can write taboo without writing incest.

You illustrate exactly what I was posting, LC. That some think the category is only for incest, and they've moved in and taken over a category set up for more than just incest. And the Web site doesn't help with it's posted explanation of the category. But if it was only incest, there is not reason not to title the category only Incest.

 

[kbate]

The language was unthrilling and rather plain. The opening was painfully "NOT UNDERAGE SEX."

The story was perhaps a bit disturbing - although certain fetishists may find arousal through assisted defecation. I find it disturbing and disgusting. I also find the idea of sex with cancer patients a bit disturbing but I can understand it as a fetish.

Responding to your critics with snark is not a good idea unless that critic has blasted you without cause. None did, they simply expressed opinion and we all misspell words.

The good: you attempted to bring in the conflicted feelings for both characters. You returned to it after the act.

You should keep writing, you should get an editor and you should care less about anonymous comments.

 

[joe32112]

my bad

ty lovecraft and kbate for your comment and you are absolutely correct so I went ahead and apologized to Anonymous and deleted my comment.

 

[joe32112]

The category title is Incest/Taboo, not just Incest. You can write taboo without writing incest.

You illustrate exactly what I was posting, LC. That some think the category is only for incest, and they've moved in and taken over a category set up for more than just incest. And the Web site doesn't help with it's posted explanation of the category. But if it was only incest, there is not reason not to title the category only Incest.

I googled Taboo and it's - a custom prohibiting a particular practice.- You're not the first one I've seen comment that the category is not just for incest. So, I'm curious, how would one write about taboo but not incest and keep it in the sexual content? Why does there seem to be a motion to segregate the two when they paired them as "Keeping it in the family" or a customary forbidden practice known as incest. Your thoughts? BTW I chose to write in this category because it is the second most frequented.

 

[lovecraft68]

I googled Taboo and it's - a custom prohibiting a particular practice.- You're not the first one I've seen comment that the category is not just for incest. So, I'm curious, how would one write about taboo but not incest and keep it in the sexual content? Why does there seem to be a motion to segregate the two when they paired them as "Keeping it in the family" or a customary forbidden practice known as incest. Your thoughts? BTW I chose to write in this category because it is the second most frequented.

Whatever the original term for taboo, in the world of erotica it has become synonymous with incest which is the ultimate taboo.

You say taboo sex, you may get a couple of different responses (some people think anal is "taboo") but when it is coupled with incest there is only one meaning.

So if you place a story here without it people get pissed. Its like writing a group sex story with only two people the reader is like "Hey...."

 

[lovecraft68]

The category title is Incest/Taboo, not just Incest. You can write taboo without writing incest.

You illustrate exactly what I was posting, LC. That some think the category is only for incest, and they've moved in and taken over a category set up for more than just incest. And the Web site doesn't help with it's posted explanation of the category. But if it was only incest, there is not reason not to title the category only Incest.

Whatever it may or may not mean elsewhere and to an individual-as in my taboo may not be yours and other way around- this is what is here on this site when people search to read and post stories.

Incest/Taboo - Keeping it in the family

Site's words not mine or anyone else so if it has been taken over as you say it's because people are going by what is put in place here.

So yes, when people read in that category they expect family fun so to speak.

So now if I were to read a story here

Gay Male - Men loving men

Then I best be finding some guys going at it or I am going to feel sorely mislead.

 

[sr71plt]

Whatever the original term for taboo, in the world of erotica it has become synonymous with incest which is the ultimate taboo.

Bullshit. You have incest on the brain. Pedophilia and bestiality are strictly taboo (and are in the same illegal vein as incest is. Incest being permitted here and the others not is about the same as tobacco being a permitted drug that's no different in personal harm than most any illegal drug is)

And then you get into what individuals would consider taboo. A poster to this thread even sees sex with a cancer patient as taboo. Certainly an orderly's sex with someone in a coma in the hospital would be taboo. A prison guard having sex with a prison inmate is legally taboo. Blackmail sex is considered taboo by some. Necrophilia is taboo.

As I said, you just are so up in your eyeballs in thoughts of incest that you can't think straight. There is nothing in the dictionary definitions of taboo or the halls of erotica/porn that restrict it to incest.

 

[lovecraft68]

Whatever the original term for taboo, in the world of erotica it has become synonymous with incest which is the ultimate taboo.

Bullshit. You have incest on the brain. Pedophilia and bestiality are strictly taboo (and are in the same illegal vein as incest is. Incest being permitted here and the others not is about the same as tobacco being a permitted drug that's no different in personal harm than most any illegal drug is)

And then you get into what individuals would consider taboo. A poster to this thread even sees sex with a cancer patient as taboo. Certainly an orderly's sex with someone in a coma in the hospital would be taboo. A prison guard having sex with a prison inmate is legally taboo. Blackmail sex is considered taboo by some. Necrophilia is taboo.

As I said, you just are so up in your eyeballs in thoughts of incest that you can't think straight. There is nothing in the dictionary definitions of taboo that restrict it to incest.

Pedo and beastie are illegal and not even considered erotic by most whereas incest yes, is also illegal, but seems to be a huge turn on for some reason.

As far as what the dictionary says throw it out the window we are talking about here, not in general terms.

And you have anti-incest or just anti- LC on the brain because as I have said in the "wide range" of erotica taboo is associated with incest.

Enough so that the Manu or Laurel or both put them into the same category with keeping it in the family as a tag line. Perhaps they have it on the brain as well.

Now when talking individual as in me saying to you, What do you consider taboo, then incest would not be the answer I would be assuming I would get because it can be anything to anyone.

And seeing we are writing on this site and the OP asked his question on this site, then for all intensive purposes here taboo is incest.

and I really think your low respect for the readers of incest and the writers is I think you don;t care for the topic, which is your right of course, but past that you're pissed because you don't like it yet apparently a boat load of people do and as bad as you think it is many disagree and it gets a lot more play than your favorite categories.

and for that don;t just look at the stories go look at any incest thread in the fetish forum, they come out of the woodwork.

jealousy is an ugly emotion Pilot, lighten up.

 

[sr71plt]

Well, that was a lot of nothing not refuting what I posted.

This isn't a discussion on the value of incest; it was on what taboo subjects could be and couldn't be. And you're just full of crap on saying taboo only relates to incest--either in erotica or anywhere else on the planet.

 

[lovecraft68]

Well, that was a lot of nothing not refuting what I posted.

This isn't a discussion on the value of incest; it was on what taboo subjects could be and couldn't be. And you're just full of crap on saying it only relates to incest--either in erotica or anywhere else on the planet.

No, you're just being a stubborn old man and not listening.

I'll try again and see if you get this because I'll get your attention.

Out in the "real world" you're right Taboo can and does mena different things to different people.

Re read that, I said you're right.

But....

We are right now speaking of here not anywhere else, but here.

and by your own words further up here, the wording that they have chosen leads people to expect the stories in incest to contain incest.

Look at these categories

Group Sex - Orgies, swingers, and others.

Loving Wives - Married extra-marital fun: swinging, sharing & more

and others and more

Vague and fair game. Other categories have "and more" as well.

But they have "locked" incest into just that. You can try other things, but it will get flamed fairly or not. Even "step" stories have taken beatings here because although I think that is still taboo, its not "keeping it in the family" and strict incest.

The site closed the door and I also think that because of the wide variety of categories here, taboo can be found everywhere. Many men think sex with another man is taboo, should GM say Men loving Men and other taboos?

Anyway the question was asked specifically about this site and right or wrong, the site has pinned taboo to incest, deal with it.

 

[Bramblethorn]

I also find the idea of sex with cancer patients a bit disturbing but I can understand it as a fetish.

...say what?

I don't know if you realise quite how offensively that comment comes across.

 

[lovecraft68]

...say what?

I don't know if you realise quite how offensively that comment comes across.

Hmmm, I didn't quite catch that until you said it.

But...

Maybe she means it along the lines of reading about it is not erotic as a "kink", not as in a loved one should not have sex with a cancer stricken loved one.

 

[sr71plt]

...say what?

I don't know if you realise quite how offensively that comment comes across.

With a big helping of hope, I took that to mean nonconsent.

 

[lovecraft68]

re-reading her post I think this changes it, at least for me.

he story was perhaps a bit disturbing - although certain fetishists may find arousal through assisted defecation. I find it disturbing and disgusting. I also find the idea of sex with cancer patients a bit disturbing but I can understand it as a fetish.

So this is not someone who just has and is fighting cancer this is someone who is pretty much infirm and ready for hospice at this point which might be a bit much for people to find "sexy" Kudos to him for "realism". but some things can go unsaid.

 

[HisPet21]

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[kbate]

...say what?

I don't know if you realise quite how offensively that comment comes across.

The title of the story is "Caregiver". In this case, it was a daughter assisting her invalid father in a fictional setting which completely mitigates the situation. Do you approve of caregivers having sex with their invalid charges? Do you know how illegal, immoral and offensive that act in reality would be? I only ask as your post indicates real life attitude rather than reaction to a fiction.

 

[barrymanilow]

I googled Taboo and it's - a custom prohibiting a particular practice.- You're not the first one I've seen comment that the category is not just for incest. So, I'm curious, how would one write about taboo but not incest and keep it in the sexual content? Why does there seem to be a motion to segregate the two when they paired them as "Keeping it in the family" or a customary forbidden practice known as incest. Your thoughts? BTW I chose to write in this category because it is the second most frequented.

The only "taboo but not incest" stories that I've seen involve in-laws. Or I guess you could count step/adoptive relations if you think only biological relations constitute incest. I haven't seen anything "taboo" where "keeping it in the family" is an inaccurate description. (in-laws and step/adopted relations are still "family" despite no blood relation)

In any case, I'm not entirely sure what this conversation has to do with the work we're talking about here. The story was about biological incest between father and daughter.

Overall, I think the story had some interesting ideas but you could have used an editor. In any case, I have a bit of constructive criticism.

A. The story takes place on the daughter's 18th birthday. This is a ridiculous cliche that makes the reader roll their eyes immediately.

B. Misspelling George Clooney's name as "Cluney" is pretty bad and turns the reader off immediately.

C. You need to work on sentence structure, as you have a lot of run on sentences in here. Including the opening one. "It was my eighteenth birthday with no good reason to celebrate because my life had become nothing more than a twenty four seven caregiver to my father who had been stricken with cancer." That sentence is way too long, clunky and complicated and should have been broken up. You also just seem to dump a lot of facts without giving descriptions or emotions.

Imagine something like this:

"Typically, a girl's 18th birthday is cause for celebration. But when mine finally came around? Well, personally, I couldn't think of much worth celebrating. My life was totally and completely consumed by my role as a 24/7 caretaker.

One year ago, my father was diagnosed with lung cancer. (description of what it was like when they found out about it, etc.) I had agreed to become his caretaker, not fully anticipating the effects that such a burdensome task would have on my life."

That being said, the story is definitely not bad. The spelling mistakes and weird sentence structure in the beginning definitely tone down towards the end, but since most of the mistakes are towards

In any case, I hope you continue to write. I think you have a lot of good ideas. I especially liked how you incorporated the guilt, fear and nervousness that would result from an incestuous act - it wasn't "hey family member, you're hot, let's fuck." I hope that for your next story you find an editor who is willing to not only fix spelling/grammar mistakes but also help clean up the sentence structure to make it less clunky and make it flow more naturally.

 

[Bramblethorn]

Do you approve of caregivers having sex with their invalid charges? Do you know how illegal, immoral and offensive that act in reality would be?

Your comment was "I also find the idea of sex with cancer patients a bit disturbing". Not "I find the idea of caregivers having sex with their charges a bit disturbing".

I did hope that was what you intended to communicate; hence my suggestion that you might not have realised how you were coming across.

 

[lovecraft68]

Okay, so I didn't read your entire story (incest, scat, & medical play are not my thing). But I did skim your story and the comments. First of all, there weren't that many negative comments. You had maybe two legitimately negative comments, and one ambivalent "this was good, but kind of creepy." And, well, that just comes with the territory, especially given the content of your story. The less generally appealing your subject matter, the more negative comments you'll receive, regardless of how well written the story is. And considering your story revolves around an invalid and includes scat, you have to expect a comment or two about how "sick" and "twisted" you are.

I write in the Nonconsent/Reluctance Category and I usually get a comment or two on how sick and f*cked up my mind is, because I write about rape and sexual violence. There are usually a few cuckold stories every month too, and they get a lot of flack, even though they are in the correct category. But you just need to shrug it off and recognize that those sorts of comments will happen and live with it. Those who enjoy what you do will appreciate your efforts. Look back at your comments board. Plenty of them were positive.

Hey, I though rape and sexual violence was not allowed to be published here!

Oh, wait, never mind, that's just Laurel setting rules and not caring of they're ever enforced.

Carry on and enjoy.

 

[geronimo_appleby]

write what you write and take the feedback that comes.

learn.

enjoy.

 

[kbate]

Your comment was "I also find the idea of sex with cancer patients a bit disturbing". Not "I find the idea of caregivers having sex with their charges a bit disturbing".

I did hope that was what you intended to communicate; hence my suggestion that you might not have realised how you were coming across.

Of course, this isn't story feedback for an incest story, it is law review.