Girls who like girls...

Anyway, I write all of this because I wonder how many men are like VM and are attracted to "cute little butch dykes." And how many would really take the opportunity to date/fuck one if it were available. Even when I was still sleeping with men, most of them found me overwhelmingly intimidating.

Just thinking it all over...

I think there's a big difference between attraction and actually sleeping with one. The idea of a strong butch woman is far different than the reality, and I would suspect that many men who would find this kind of woman attractive would end up being intimidated in bed.

I have much more to say on this, but as you've seen as I've struggled with this post, I can't put my thoughts together. If I can make sense of my words, I'll explain better later. :rolleyes:
 
I think there's a big difference between attraction and actually sleeping with one. The idea of a strong butch woman is far different than the reality, and I would suspect that many men who would find this kind of woman attractive would end up being intimidated in bed.
Some of us just like the person in question and like the idea of giving and getting pleasure. Sure the class traits may attract - or not - but after that, it's just one on one.

I'd paraphrase, "strong butch woman" to "self-confident woman" - and to be honest, even though I confess to being attracted to the idea of being the strong person that can save and protect, self-confidence is even more attractive. Being two self-sufficient grown ups is the best relationship.
 
OK - totally cheesy "girl who likes girls" survey type question.
I hope enough people check the thread so we can have a decent pseudo-conversation...

I know the LWord isn't actually representative of most lesbian's lives, but it's the biggest media icon we have so...

1. Which LWord character do you find the most attractive all the way around? Looks, personality, orientation, etc.

2. Which LWord character would you want to have a short fling with? One night, two nights, a month...

3. Which would you most like to have a relationship with?

4. Who would you want as your best friend?


I ask these questions because when I first became single, I decided I wanted to be like Shane for a while and "hone my skills." But then, after much reflection, I decided I wanted to be like Papi instead. There is something very different about those two characters and Papi appeals to me more. It's given birth in my mind to this internal dialog about what I want and I want to be to someone else...

I'll answer all the questions in another post.
As an honorary, my biggest problem answering these would be relevance to the current state of the show.

I tend to wait and watch shows on DVD. I actually have the first four seasons of the L Word, but right now other things have kept me from catching up with what I have... So I am about 2/3rds of the way through season 2.

So, on THAT basis... answering with the info from that point. And pretending that orientation is not applicable, because otherwise I'm toast on most of the questions...

1. Alice or Tina: I liked Tina best for much of Season 1, but Alice appeals to me for various reasons as well.

2. Marina is probably the one it would be most successful with, based on my history. It would be quick, passionate and full of intellectual discussions and secret meetings... than be over with. Some would say my history with certain personality types would make me end up, at least in a short term deal, with Jenny.

3. Alice. She just seems to fit me best in some ways. And I actually don't mean the Bi thing, either.

4. Shane. Shane interests me far more from this perspective than sexually. I think we could hang.
 
I've wondered where exactly I fall on the butch-femme spectrum for a while now. A friend recently described me as a hard femme. I hadn't heard the term before, so I googled it and found this definition:

Not to be mistaken with the typical femme, the "hard femme" describes herself as "queer", is political, looks more feminine than masculine, and if prompted, can kick some serious ass. She doesn't need to "wear the pants" in a relationship- the hard femme rules with a dress. She not only despises the gender binary, she works to dismantle it.

That seems fairly accurate, but I'm still not sure. Anyway, I write all of this because I wonder how many men are like VM and are attracted to "cute little butch dykes." And how many would really take the opportunity to date/fuck one if it were available. Even when I was still sleeping with men, most of them found me overwhelmingly intimidating.

Just thinking it all over...

I like that description of "hard femme"... especially the working to dismantle the gender binary part.

I'm attracted to people... if one of the people I became attracted to was a "cute little butch dyke" I would go for it.

And only my own issues intimidate me in an overwhelming way. No other person can do that. My own fears, whether of failure or of crossing boundaries without invitation, those intimidate me and change my behavior. But intimidated by the strength of someones personality? No, I don't think so... I think I find that attractive and addictive.
 
I think there's a big difference between attraction and actually sleeping with one. The idea of a strong butch woman is far different than the reality, and I would suspect that many men who would find this kind of woman attractive would end up being intimidated in bed.

I have much more to say on this, but as you've seen as I've struggled with this post, I can't put my thoughts together. If I can make sense of my words, I'll explain better later. :rolleyes:

I think that you have to take into account that even though she had the tats and the bike, she was only about 5' 2" and lightly built. I'm a six-footer and weigh a good 200. Hard and tough wouldn't have made much difference to me. Now if she was as tall as I am I might have felt differently.
 
I think that you have to take into account that even though she had the tats and the bike, she was only about 5' 2" and lightly built. I'm a six-footer and weigh a good 200. Hard and tough wouldn't have made much difference to me. Now if she was as tall as I am I might have felt differently.

Maybe physical size is more relevant for some than others.
I'm tiny, too. I stand not quite 5 ft tall. Still, men were repeatedly intimidated by my entire personality and drive. I'm not hard and tough, either. I'm just very, very me. It seems to be a lot for most people to handle!
 
Maybe physical size is more relevant for some than others.
I'm tiny, too. I stand not quite 5 ft tall. Still, men were repeatedly intimidated by my entire personality and drive. I'm not hard and tough, either. I'm just very, very me. It seems to be a lot for most people to handle!

Then I very much look foreward to making your acquaintance in Chicago next year. *tips Panama politely*
 
The thread brings back memories.

One of the lesbians identified near the beginning of the thread turned out to be a male. I recall he was involved with a lesbian from Europe back then. Both 'lesbians' went away. He went to prison.

I discovered the lesbians identity by accident. "She" said she lived in my area, and one day I was driving to Tampa and fell over 'her' house. I wasn't looking for it but there it was. So I looked up the address and learned it belonged to a man. No female on the title. Soon afterwards the home owner was arrested and went to prison.

I never said a word about what I found, cuz I don't kiss and tell. 'She ' was civil and friendly to me, and 'her' druthers didn't involve me.

Almost 9 years ago.
 
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