"ghetto fabulous" and other reasons to hate g.w.bush

[felixdakat]

time for me to start a thread that got some responces..... so ummmm... let me think of one hehehe...

oh yes it's coming to me


being a young person (comparetively speaking) i've noticed that there are a lot of kids today who really have lost total sight in their own roots, and become overly indulged with the roots of our african brothers. now why on earth would anyone forsake their own etniticity, for that of another?..... i'm not a racist in any sence of the word, and i like to believe that i have an open mind to culture.... and another observation that i feel is tied in to this, is that these same youth seem to want to look like "ghetto success stories" the "i've fought my way to the top" well.... i'm happy in the middle. i don't need to fall to the bottom, or rise to the top. happiness is where your heart is....... what do you think?

 

[RisiaSkye]

You can't have it both ways.

Either America is a land of immigrants (some earlier than others, to be sure) where everyone retains their "original" culture; in which case, your complaint may be more justifiable than it seems. However, "ghetto fabulous" is a uniquely American phenomenon in any case, as it combines an interest in brand-labels and conspicuous consumption with retaining cultural roots in American poor urban areas (ghetto).

Or, America is a place where people's "original" cultures combine to form something new. If that's the case, "ghetto fab" doesn't belong to any one culture. In fact, to suggest that ghetto fabulous belongs unilaterally to blacks is racist, as it both suggests blacks = ghetto and that somehow the displays of wealth common to say, the hip-hop community, come with racial coding attached.

So, which world is it? And why does it matter? What's so essential to retain that people are missing by adopting a ghetto fabulous style?

 

[miles]

RisiaSkye

Can I have your baby?

 

[modest mouse]

ahhh yeah boi

u gunna git ur ass cappd, frum new hampshur......well dat shit dunt fly here beeyatch....dis mofo is frum vermont so u bettah bak da fuk up

*cough cough*

 

[RisiaSkye]

Re: RisiaSkye

Can I have your baby?

miles, I think I love you. So what am I so afraid of ? You deserve cookies...warm chocolate chip cookies, with secret treats inside.

 

[miles]

Holy fucking shit

You mean like...no it can't be. It just can't.

 

[miles]

RisiaSkye

You're afraid of...a love there is no cure for.

Walt Whitman

 

[Guest]

 

[RisiaSkye]

Yes, it was.
For the Partridge reference, I apologize.
But not for the cookies. Never for the cookies.

 

[CelestialBody]

 

[miles]

That quote was stolen from one of Whitman's early, obscure works titled "Toll House Trilogies."

 

[miles]

RisiaSkye

You do have lovely cookies, especially right out of the oven.

CB, do you mind? There is a hijacking going on here.

 

[RisiaSkye]

CB

There's a difference between a style and a lifestyle.

Wearing leathers doesn't make anyone a biker. Similarly, decking out in ghetto fab style doesn't create a misogynistic environment. It's important to separate style from content, isn't it? Double standards definitely create problems, but they aren't implicit in a style of dress or cultural identification.

It means what we make it mean--would you suggest that all of the women (like, say, Eve) making major money adopting a ghetto fab style are buying into a misogynistic lifestyle? Or are they adopting a similar style, and using it to change a cultural problem? You bring up a good example in Madonna--her use of the ghetto fab style is problematic to be sure, as she's a cultural chameleon, and not above latching onto whatever she and her publicity machine read as the current "big thing." However, she uses a ghetto fab style to point out some gendered ironies...and it works in interesting ways. Take a listen to Eve's "My Bitches" (on hir first album). She uses "bitch" the same way others have used that six letter "n word," in order to transform its meaning. Can she do that and still be ghetto fabulous? Why not?

 

[RisiaSkye]

Re: RisiaSkye

You do have lovely cookies, especially right out of the oven.

CB, do you mind? There is a hijacking going on here.

Heh. Ooh baby, I've got the hottest chips in town.

miles, I've decided. You can have my baby. What a beautiful way to say how much you love me.

 

[miles]

My RisiaSkye

Right here and now...your all-time favorite ballad.

Feelings

as interpreted by the original Lounge Lizard, Bill Murray

Feelings
Nothing more than Feelings
Trying to forget my Feelings
Feelings All my life i'll feel it
I wish I'd never met you Y
Feelings, woh oh oh feelings...



Do you remember...the first time we heard this together?
I can see it now, just me, you, and the moon.

You wear a necktie so I'll know ya.

 

[RisiaSkye]

ohmigawd! miles, you rock my monitor!
between Gable, Murray, and your fabulousness, I am smitten. Deeply smitten.

 

[CelestialBody]

Miles, Since when do I ever do what you want me to??

 

[p_p_man]

And here folks in between the highly intelligent...

discussion on whether some of the young have double standards or not...

We have:

miles and RisiaSkye bonking on the dance floor...well alright, heavy flirting then [edited under protest]

Only on Lit!

 

[RisiaSkye]

Hey now. There's absolutely no "bonking" going on here. Not on my watch, pal.

 

[p_p_man]

Hey now. There's absolutely no "bonking" going on here. Not on my watch, pal.

edited now under protest...I know what I saw!