First Munch Tips?

vanelane said:
Oooh! Our new friend had to have some back surgery that went bad, so he's been out of commission for awhile, and then the host of these monthly parties had a heart attack so last month's party got cancelled, but everyone's healthy again and I got to get tied up nekkid at the party last night! I've found that I'm more interested in the sensual aspects than the pain, so being bound with expertly tied ropes and a couple of strategically placed bamboo poles was a lot of fun. Can't wait 'til next month.
OK, you're not getting off that easily. Just how um...strategically placed were those bamboo poles you mentioned?

You don't get to go play and not tell the rest of us (who didn't get to play, I might add) just a little bit about it. We want to enjoy the party, too. Details...we want details! :nana:

Please and thank you. :D
 
I moved back to the DFW area a few months ago from the small town where I had been attending college, and finally made it to my first munch in the area. I have to admit...I was less than impressed. I'm not going to stop searching for my niche or anything, but there are some bothersome differences between small town groups and the groups up here.

The two groups I was a part of before the move were smallish. 10-20 folks at munches, 30-40 at parties. Everyone knew everyone, which I appreciated both for support and reputation reasons. The groups were very welcoming and their size made it easy to feel at ease as well as appreciated. The idea of not getting to speak to just about everyone in the group was unheard of (I'm not talking about protocol, but of a size thing here). Parties were held at member's houses which meant that usually there could only be a couple scenes occuring at once. I may not have appreciated this fact the first time I stripped in front of a bunch of relative strangers who had few choices for their attention, but I miss now how involved and supportive everyone was consequently.

My first munch in Dallas was overwhelming and a bit disheartening. I walked into a munch with at least 200 people (so they said), and felt totally lost. No one was welcoming newbies and I spent a long time wandering trying to determine what exactly to do. After a certain point I told myself I was taking the next empty seat and did. The folks I found at that table were nice, and coincidently a TNG group.

I'm really just venting here, it was a different experience than I expected. I imagine they see new people come and go all the time, more so than we did in our small town. Maybe they want to see you a few times before welcoming. The dungeon seemed far from personal, granted, a few of the group members commented that they preferred it less crowded (as it was) so that there was more room to play. There wasn't a whole lot of socializing at the dungeon, even it seemed in the social room. Somehow I got things backwards that with more people there would be more community. It's odd feeling like a country mouse when this is where I grew up, but I sure felt that way talking to another sub at the munch, so I'm rambling here instead.

So if anyone has any advice on how to adjust/integrate into a large group, it would be appreciated. If not, well I'm glad I got this out.
 
DVS said:
OK, you're not getting off that easily. Just how um...strategically placed were those bamboo poles you mentioned?

You don't get to go play and not tell the rest of us (who didn't get to play, I might add) just a little bit about it. We want to enjoy the party, too. Details...we want details! :nana:

Please and thank you. :D

Ok, ok, since you asked so nicely ;)...

Um, let's see. I had a nice little rope bra harness thing wound around my chest which felt sooo good I wore it all night! Then rope cuffs around my wrists and one of the poles was standing upright behind me with my wrists hooked to the top of it over my head. Chris (who was doing the tying) called it a lamppost cause it was kinda like I was hanging from a lamp post, though I wasn't actually suspended (this time!). The other was a spreader bar construct on the floor with my ankles attached by rope at either end, assuring easy access. Like I said, for me it's very much a sensual/sexual thing. I lost track of the number of orgasms I had and I'll never know who or how many were watching at various times, but the host of the party came up to me later and said "I love watching you come! Beautiful!" Excellent evening overall.
 
vanelane said:
Ok, ok, since you asked so nicely ;)...

Um, let's see. I had a nice little rope bra harness thing wound around my chest which felt sooo good I wore it all night! Then rope cuffs around my wrists and one of the poles was standing upright behind me with my wrists hooked to the top of it over my head. Chris (who was doing the tying) called it a lamppost cause it was kinda like I was hanging from a lamp post, though I wasn't actually suspended (this time!). The other was a spreader bar construct on the floor with my ankles attached by rope at either end, assuring easy access. Like I said, for me it's very much a sensual/sexual thing. I lost track of the number of orgasms I had and I'll never know who or how many were watching at various times, but the host of the party came up to me later and said "I love watching you come! Beautiful!" Excellent evening overall.

*is happy for you, also a bit jealous, smiles*

Fury :rose:
 
vanelane said:
Ok, ok, since you asked so nicely ;)...

Um, let's see. I had a nice little rope bra harness thing wound around my chest which felt sooo good I wore it all night! Then rope cuffs around my wrists and one of the poles was standing upright behind me with my wrists hooked to the top of it over my head. Chris (who was doing the tying) called it a lamppost cause it was kinda like I was hanging from a lamp post, though I wasn't actually suspended (this time!). The other was a spreader bar construct on the floor with my ankles attached by rope at either end, assuring easy access. Like I said, for me it's very much a sensual/sexual thing. I lost track of the number of orgasms I had and I'll never know who or how many were watching at various times, but the host of the party came up to me later and said "I love watching you come! Beautiful!" Excellent evening overall.
Sounds llike it was a lot of fun, for sure. Bondage is a favorite of mine. I could go on in detail, but that would be rambling.

I'm glad you had a good time. And, as for what the host said, "I love watching you come! Beautiful!", do you happen to have pictures of that? OK, if not, maybe next time? There's a lot of us here who NEVER get to have any fun. Pictures would be great! Yes, we're perverts.

OK, I"m kidding. I have a dry sense of humor. Oh, we ARE perverts. I wasn't kidding about that. But, I know pictures aren't taken at play parties, unless the pictures taken are specifically controlled to guard against outing someone. But, that doesn't mean pictures wouldn't be nice. :D

I do appreciate your detailed discription, though. Almost as good as pictures. In some cases, maybe a little better. :p

Dammit! Nobody ever has pictures of these things. Security of the players is bull. A stupid rule, if you ask me. OK, I'm rambling again. Sorry. :rolleyes:
 
So last night was my third munch. The first one in a "club."

These are some of the things that struck me.

One, my husband was a LOT more comfortable this time. This was his second munch btw.

Two, I am not an exhibitionist or public play person.

Three, I am also not much of a voyeur though I do certainly do like to see and learn new things.

Four, I couldn't tell what the people conducting a scene wanted exactly. Some seemed to want privacy but it's a public place. A few wanted "quiet" but there was industrial music playing and a lot of people there. I assume they want an audience though? They must be either pedagogues or exhibitionists or both?

Those being worked on must be exhibitionists, yes?

Some of those watching must be voyeurs, right?

What say you guys?

Fury :rose:
 
I say kudos for both you and your husband for going to a club.

Now at least at our club there are like 2 rooms that are off the main play area that you might have a bit more privacy. Then we also have a balcony too that is above the main floor and that gives a similar effect.

I don't care about being watched at all, though I am some what an exabitionist. The main reason I go to the club is they have equipment that most members are lacking in their homes. I mean have you ever priced some of the equipment. I am helping Mstr Alex make some toys, he told me what they sell for and they aren't exactly cheap either. Playing in public is a bit safer too if you don't know your playmates well at all.

As for watching for the same reason you stated. But another benefit is if you see something you like then you can attempt to at some time play with that person.
 
FurryFury said:
So last night was my third munch. The first one in a "club."

These are some of the things that struck me.

One, my husband was a LOT more comfortable this time. This was his second munch btw.

I'll address these since I was there too... *LOL* And I'm TICKLED pink your hubby was comfortable there. 1763 isn't the Sanctuary, but it has an energy and atmosphere all it's own and I enjoy playing there immensely. It's my BDSM "home-away-from-home".

Two, I am not an exhibitionist or public play person.
*nodnodnod* And nothing wrong with that at all. A lot of people never do get comfortable with that. Some do once they become more familiar with those around them, and with the facility. Some get there because they really don't have much choice *weg*.

Three, I am also not much of a voyeur though I do certainly do like to see and learn new things.
Some scenes get very, very intimate. Even if there is no intercourse or penetration there can be an exchange of energy and emotion that is palpable. That intimate energy can create a lot of different reactions in those watching. Proceed at your own comfortable pace!

Four, I couldn't tell what the people conducting a scene wanted exactly. Some seemed to want privacy but it's a public place. A few wanted "quiet" but there was industrial music playing and a lot of people there. I assume they want an audience though? They must be either pedagogues or exhibitionists or both?

Those being worked on must be exhibitionists, yes?

Some of those watching must be voyeurs, right?

What people want in a scene really varies with the individual participants. If they wanted total privacy, they should stay home. No matter what room you are in there (except the private rentals in the back), at 1763 you are subject to passer-bys stopping and watching. Personally, I found the music a bit loud and I'm not a fan of constant industrial music. I don't mind it in the mix but I like a variety of music. From Enya to Enigma to Metallica to Rammstein to NIN to whatever. Like leeroy said though, some come to access equipment they just don't have at home and would rather NOT have an audience *like NO ONE is gonna watch...* They put up with the audience to access the equipment.

As for those Topping... well yeah, pretty much gonna be exhibitionists at least to some degree. Same for the bottoms though they may simply be obedient and not really getting off on the public play. Those watching? some are hard-core voyeurs, they get off on the act of watching. Smoe are curiousity-seekers, some are trying to tpick up ideas to try themselves at home, some are just killing time until the station they want to use becomes available...

For me personally... yes! *LOL*
 
FurryFury said:
So last night was my third munch. The first one in a "club."

These are some of the things that struck me.
Having been there also, I was struck by similar thoughts

One, my husband was a LOT more comfortable this time. This was his second munch btw.:
It was a pleasure to meet you and your husband. He did seem very comfortable with everything that was going on as did you.

FurryFury said:
Two, I am not an exhibitionist or public play person.
I got that type of vibe from you but then you were very interested in trying out the violet wand as was I. LOL

FurryFury said:
Three, I am also not much of a voyeur though I do certainly do like to see and learn new things.
I feel I am somewhat of a voyeur (hell, I'll admit it) but was more interested in observing and learning than just being there to get off.

FurryFury said:
Four, I couldn't tell what the people conducting a scene wanted exactly. Some seemed to want privacy but it's a public place. A few wanted "quiet" but there was industrial music playing and a lot of people there. I assume they want an audience though? They must be either pedagogues or exhibitionists or both?
I agree it was a little strange. The music was loud but they wanted quiet. Perhaps it is because music is more impersonal and peoples words and discussions can be more distracting. But I would have liked it a little more quite myself.

FurryFury said:
Those being worked on must be exhibitionists, yes?
I think I agree with Geoff here that the subs many not necessarily be but just following their master's wishes (my sub told me that she would do a scene there if I wished it) while the masters may be.

FurryFury said:
Some of those watching must be voyeurs, right?
There definitely were a few, but Like Geoff said some may just be waiting for the room to clear, some, like us, were observing because of interest and to pick up tips and some were doing a little of both

FurryFury said:
What say you guys?

Fury :rose:
I say We all had a great time! :rose: :kiss:
 
leeroy jenkins said:
I say kudos for both you and your husband for going to a club.

Now at least at our club there are like 2 rooms that are off the main play area that you might have a bit more privacy. Then we also have a balcony too that is above the main floor and that gives a similar effect.

I don't care about being watched at all, though I am some what an exabitionist. The main reason I go to the club is they have equipment that most members are lacking in their homes. I mean have you ever priced some of the equipment. I am helping Mstr Alex make some toys, he told me what they sell for and they aren't exactly cheap either. Playing in public is a bit safer too if you don't know your playmates well at all.

As for watching for the same reason you stated. But another benefit is if you see something you like then you can attempt to at some time play with that person.

I can understand that but as I said, it's simply not my thing to be seen in a scene period.

It would be safer if you didn't know people well. The equipment is a nice thing for sure. That's one reason that I'd already considered renting one of the dungeon rooms they have there. The price on that isn't so bad for say a once in a lifetime or year, as the case may be, treat.

Toys of what sort? I'm a very thrifty girl but I splurge on some things. Particularly if I think it will make someone such as my husband or kids get a thrill.

Evil_Geoff said:
1.)I'll address these since I was there too... *LOL* And I'm TICKLED pink your hubby was comfortable there. 1763 isn't the Sanctuary, but it has an energy and atmosphere all it's own and I enjoy playing there immensely. It's my BDSM "home-away-from-home".

2.) *nodnodnod* And nothing wrong with that at all. A lot of people never do get comfortable with that. Some do once they become more familiar with those around them, and with the facility. Some get there because they really don't have much choice *weg*.

3.) Some scenes get very, very intimate. Even if there is no intercourse or penetration there can be an exchange of energy and emotion that is palpable. That intimate energy can create a lot of different reactions in those watching. Proceed at your own comfortable pace!

4.) What people want in a scene really varies with the individual participants. If they wanted total privacy, they should stay home. No matter what room you are in there (except the private rentals in the back), at 1763 you are subject to passer-bys stopping and watching. Personally, I found the music a bit loud and I'm not a fan of constant industrial music. I don't mind it in the mix but I like a variety of music. From Enya to Enigma to Metallica to Rammstein to NIN to whatever. Like leeroy said though, some come to access equipment they just don't have at home and would rather NOT have an audience *like NO ONE is gonna watch...* They put up with the audience to access the equipment.

5.) As for those Topping... well yeah, pretty much gonna be exhibitionists at least to some degree. Same for the bottoms though they may simply be obedient and not really getting off on the public play. Those watching? some are hard-core voyeurs, they get off on the act of watching. Smoe are curiousity-seekers, some are trying to tpick up ideas to try themselves at home, some are just killing time until the station they want to use becomes available...

6.) For me personally... yes! *LOL*

1.) Me too, I was so happy about my husband's general attitude this time! The space is nice. I was glad though that I wasn't staying there. I needed my suite retreat.

2.) I'm fairly certain I will never be comfortable with public play. If I were with a Dom who wanted me to become comfortable I think I could push myself but as I'm not, that's not likely to be changing for me.

Don't have much choice? You mean because of a lack of play partners?

3.) I enjoy watching, analyzing and learning about new things but I didn't get "hot or wet" from doing so. On the other hand, seeing my husband comfortable, happy, exploring and wanting to get back to our suite to try some things out did that job nicely!

4.) I was thinking the same thing, that if they wanted it quiet they should stay home. LOL. I felt like a naughty kid at times being singled out by the principal. Which is NOT how I enjoy feeling. I would have done the sound differently as well but that's a small quibble really.

5.) I can see that both the being an exhibitionist and doing for the Top or Dom.

6.) LOL! It was such a pleasure to met you and the ladies with you, the others from Lit, as well as others in your TTWD group!

raven2 said:
A.) Having been there also, I was struck by similar thoughts


B.) It was a pleasure to meet you and your husband. He did seem very comfortable with everything that was going on as did you.


C.) I got that type of vibe from you but then you were very interested in trying out the violet wand as was I. LOL


D.) I feel I am somewhat of a voyeur (hell, I'll admit it) but was more interested in observing and learning than just being there to get off.


E.) I agree it was a little strange. The music was loud but they wanted quiet. Perhaps it is because music is more impersonal and peoples words and discussions can be more distracting. But I would have liked it a little more quite myself.


F.) I think I agree with Geoff here that the subs many not necessarily be but just following their master's wishes (my sub told me that she would do a scene there if I wished it) while the masters may be.


G.) There definitely were a few, but Like Geoff said some may just be waiting for the room to clear, some, like us, were observing because of interest and to pick up tips and some were doing a little of both


H.) I say We all had a great time! :rose: :kiss:

A.) It's nice to hear from you and Geoff that we all had some similar thoughts on the matter!

B.) Yes, he did and that was a wonderful surprise to me. I offered to not go, to go alone or to try to get some friends to go with but he wanted to come, said he understood why I'd want to as well!

C.) I was very interested in my husband trying out the violet wand because I knew it was something he was really interested in and that he has a better time when he does participate. I also wanted to know if it was worth getting one for us. Thanks Geoff for bringing it and letting us try it!

D.) I do like to see different things because I might learn and get new ideas from them. I know some time soon I have a whole list of things I want to look for at the dollar store and walmart.

E.) I agree.

F.) Oh I see! *smiles*

G.) *nods*

H.) Yes, we did.

Fury :rose:
 
Well for toys I guess I could say the kneeling stocks that Mstr Alex has made. Its a nice piece of equipment. But more to the point in the club we have a spider web. Its a chain web that is in a wheelabout wooden frame. The backside is go some u bolts to help secure some one up too. In all likelyhood this is something you would never see in a private home though it really is just that big.

More practical equipment would be a bondage table, spanking bench, and a cross. But each of those piece could run in several hundred dollar range.


If you don't like to play in public more power to you, at least you know and it sounds like maybe both you and your husband share the same feeling.
 
leeroy jenkins said:
Well for toys I guess I could say the kneeling stocks that Mstr Alex has made. Its a nice piece of equipment. But more to the point in the club we have a spider web. Its a chain web that is in a wheelabout wooden frame. The backside is go some u bolts to help secure some one up too. In all likelyhood this is something you would never see in a private home though it really is just that big.

More practical equipment would be a bondage table, spanking bench, and a cross. But each of those piece could run in several hundred dollar range.


If you don't like to play in public more power to you, at least you know and it sounds like maybe both you and your husband share the same feeling.

It's true we do share that play in private thing, well mostly.

When the spanking demo asked for volunteers he loudly said to me, "Aren't you going to voluteer?"

To which I said, "Shut the hell up!"

Oops! Not very submissive of me huh?

LOL.

He knows I don't do the volunteer thing in that sort of situation and I honestly don't think he'd want me too.

I go to these things to learn. And this last one to meet folks.

If I go to the Southeast Leatherfest as I'm thinking I will, we will probably stay elsewhere. I like the quiet retreat option. Cons are so NOT quiet in my experience.

I plan to meet up with any Lit people that let me know they will be there and want to, perhaps for a meal or something.

I plan to watch and learn from some of the demos that we are interested in.

Then I plan to spent the rest of the time with my husband alone as a couple.

:D

Fury :rose:
 
My question is this Fury do you ever think that you both could learn to play in public?? I mean the first time can be a bit much but maybe you can sorta develop tunnelvision. Meaning that you just focus on what your doing or having done to you. Just a random thought while at work and thinking about lit.
 
leeroy jenkins said:
My question is this Fury do you ever think that you both could learn to play in public?? I mean the first time can be a bit much but maybe you can sorta develop tunnelvision. Meaning that you just focus on what your doing or having done to you. Just a random thought while at work and thinking about lit.

I doubt it. We'd both need the other one to find it important to them to be motivated to break those limits.

He did once speak of a rape scene he might like to do if it didn't violate the rules of the play party. *fans herself* OMG! :eek: I did so NOT expect that out of him. What a kinky fellow he is. :D

Though we did play with a violet wand a little in public. That didn't require us to get undressed though!

Fury :rose:
 
FurryFury said:
...Though we did play with a violet wand a little in public. That didn't require us to get undressed though!

Fury :rose:
It works better, if you get undressed, though. It's amazing how well that wand works on bound, naked skin. In fact, it really enjoys the nervous tension...the little moist spots that can't make up their mind if they enjoy it, or if they don't...so the screams are difficult to figure out...pain or plreasure?
 
DVS said:
It works better, if you get undressed, though. It's amazing how well that wand works on bound, naked skin. In fact, it really enjoys the nervous tension...the little moist spots that can't make up their mind if they enjoy it, or if they don't...so the screams are difficult to figure out...pain or plreasure?

*smiles*

Well it was public you see but I can't think of a ton of things to do with it in private.

I did hear some of the Literoticans remarking about the look on my face. I'm curious what that was!

We didn't have some marks after wards. Nail tips are very interesting with this, the smaller the surface contact the more intensity.

Fury :rose:
 
FurryFury said:
...We didn't have some marks after wards. Nail tips are very interesting with this, the smaller the surface contact the more intensity.

Fury :rose:
Of course, that's how electricity works. It will always have the same current flowing, at any given setting, but the smaller the attachment or probe, the more localized the current path. That's why the globes are less intenst than say the rake or mushroom is.

Using a metal tool like a dental pick, you can brand someone. High intensity setting and small localized current path. It will be more intense, because all of the current is pushed through the small conductor.

Another nice conductor to use is metal guitar picks on your fingers. They make picks that fit on your fingers to play the banjo or to pick a guitar. Try some of those on your fingers, with the body attachment. Woo Hoo!
 
DVS said:
Of course, that's how electricity works. It will always have the same current flowing, at any given setting, but the smaller the attachment or probe, the more localized the current path. That's why the globes are less intenst than say the rake or mushroom is.

Using a metal tool like a dental pick, you can brand someone. High intensity setting and small localized current path. It will be more intense, because all of the current is pushed through the small conductor.

Another nice conductor to use is metal guitar picks on your fingers. They make picks that fit on your fingers to play the banjo or to pick a guitar. Try some of those on your fingers, with the body attachment. Woo Hoo!

Yeah, I meant we did have some marks, almost brand like ones. Gak! I can't do anything right sometimes.

Husband didn't like what he called the burning hair smell.

I've seen several at Ebay for a reasonable price but they couldn't tell me if the things had a ceramic or a wax core.

Nail tips were so cool.

My husband had to turn the thing up to see how intense he could make it.

I find the idea of performing oral sex on him as the conduit very interesting and so does he.

*raises brows*

Fury :rose:
 
DVS said:
Of course, that's how electricity works. It will always have the same current flowing, at any given setting, but the smaller the attachment or probe, the more localized the current path. That's why the globes are less intenst than say the rake or mushroom is.

Using a metal tool like a dental pick, you can brand someone. High intensity setting and small localized current path. It will be more intense, because all of the current is pushed through the small conductor.

Another nice conductor to use is metal guitar picks on your fingers. They make picks that fit on your fingers to play the banjo or to pick a guitar. Try some of those on your fingers, with the body attachment. Woo Hoo!

Hell you don't need to add electricty to banjo picks they feel just right without, but if you do then its ever so nice. I personally like those little ballbearing chains the best.:catroar:
 
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