First EVER Supreme Court Leak: Roe V. Wade overturned

[RobDownSouth]

Surprising news tonight: Supreme Court decision leaked by someone with access to court files. This is purportedly the first time a decision has been leaked prior to the end of the Supreme Court term.

It overturns Roe V. Wade with Alito authoring the majority decision.

 

[anarchoMando]

Wow the GOP might lose even more

 

[YDB95]

I wonder how many women who voted for Trump will be faced with an unwanted pregnancy, and just what they'll do about it. Hope we don't have to spend too much time in the dark ages before a woman's right to choose is re-established.

 

[anarchoMando]

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

Historic breach of the Supreme Court tradition, and major crisis for John Roberts. Not hard to guess what the motivation for the leak was.

 

[DimmuBurger]

Wow the GOP might lose even more

How would the GOP lose? It's a big win for them.

I wonder how many women who voted for Trump will be faced with an unwanted pregnancy, and just what they'll do about it. Hope we don't have to spend too much time in the dark ages before a woman's right to choose is re-established.

It can be established as a right in blue states.

You authoritarian leftist are just going to have to live with American democracy allowing people in other communities to live differently.

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THAT'S RIGHT!!! So if you're a pro-abortion leftist, move to a blue shit hole state.

 

[KeithD]

Are you incapable of processing data? This isn't a leftist thing. All women of child-bearing age are under threat of losing their independence--and their lives. Only a really, really dumb male wouldn't understand this. There certainly are some women who won't process this, but there are more women voters than men; nearly all women voters on the left and in the center see the very personal threat of this--and even many child-bearing age Republican women are bright enough to see it as a very personal danger to them, their daughters and their granddaughters. Add most liberal and centrist male voters to this, and you've got the over 60 percent of voters who constant polls say back individual woman's choice on this. Of course these folks have to get out and vote, blocking Republicans from elected office.

Are you really that dimwitted, DimBurger, or know so little about what is at stake for women individually here?

 

[coati]

I wonder how many women who voted for Trump will be faced with an unwanted pregnancy, and just what they'll do about it. Hope we don't have to spend too much time in the dark ages before a woman's right to choose is re-established.

But wait, didn't Susan Collins say she got Kavanaugh's word that he would honor precedent and not legislate away women's rights from the bench? Was that just the beer bong talking?

 

[Wark2002]

If Roe v Wade is overturned, so be it. I am troubled about abortion on demand anyway. (I am, however, not a woman.) But if Roe v Wade is overturned it had damn well better be accompanied by a drastic increase in funds for education, birth control, pre-and post-natal care, both medical and psychological, and family care and support. Abortion should be made obsolete, not illegal.

 

[phrodeau]

It’s fake, like the Trump electoral ballots.

 

[KeithD]

But wait, didn't Susan Collins say she got Kavanaugh's word that he would honor precedent and not legislate away women's rights from the bench? Was that just the beer bong talking?

Yep, the Internet is already awash with her duplicitous statement that Kavanaugh was OK with Roe. She should be vilified for this constantly now. It should come up every time she appears before the public.

 

[KeithD]

If Roe v Wade is overturned, so be it. I am troubled about abortion on demand anyway. (I am, however, not a woman.) But if Roe v Wade is overturned it had damn well better be accompanied by a drastic increase in funds for education, birth control, pre-and post-natal care, both medical and psychological, and family care and support. Abortion should be made obsolete, not illegal.

The anti-abortionists are only interested in a child before it pops out of the womb. They completely lose interest after that. And, truth be known, most of them don't care about the baby in the womb either. They care about control of women.

 

[Wrong Element]

Are you really that dimwitted, DimBurger, or know so little about what is at stake for women individually here?

Dimwitted and a hardcore misogynist, so for obvious reasons thrilled about this news.

With the important cautionary note that no one knows yet if this exact opinion can muster five votes (though I suspect it can given who is on the Court), the most alarming thing in it is Alito's belief that the only protected rights are those explicitly spelled out by the Constitution (so I guess women's suffrage is OK, assuming you're a white woman) or those that are "deeply rooted in history." In other words, if you're not a white Christian male of heterosexual leanings — the only Americans who do have full civil rights deeply rooted in history — your freedom is up to the whims of the majority at all times. (And even the concept of "majority" is questionable these days, thanks to Alito and his pals' efforts to gut voting rights.)

 

[Wrong Element]

) But if Roe v Wade is overturned it had damn well better be accompanied by a drastic increase in funds for education, birth control, pre-and post-natal care, both medical and psychological, and family care and support.

This will happen around the time Jimmy Hoffa knocks at the front door and asks if anyone's been missing him.

 

[anarchoMando]

Are you incapable of processing data? This isn't a leftist thing. All women of child-bearing age are under threat of losing their independence--and their lives. Only a really, really dumb male wouldn't understand this. There certainly are some women who won't process this, but there are more women voters than men; nearly all women voters on the left and in the center see the very personal threat of this--and even many child-bearing age Republican women are bright enough to see it as a very personal danger to them, their daughters and their granddaughters. Add most liberal and centrist male voters to this, and you've got the over 60 percent of voters who constant polls say back individual woman's choice on this. Of course these folks have to get out and vote, blocking Republicans from elected office.

Are you really that dimwitted, DimBurger, or know so little about what is at stake for women individually here?

He really is that much of a dumbass and he treats women like their barefoot and pregnant as the only thing that they should aspire to.

 

[JohnEngelman]

How would the GOP lose? It's a big win for them.

I see the abortion issue as win - win for us Democrats.

Roe vs Wade led to the rise of the religious right. This is a largely lower middle class constituency that votes against their economic interests by voting Republican. Since 1980 they have voted Republican with the expectation that the GOP would overturn Roe. If the Supreme Court, with six Republican justices, betrays them on this issue, many will vote Democrat for economic reasons. Many others will retreat from politics and resume their passive wait for the Second Coming of Christ.

On the other hand, if the Supreme Court overturns Roe, many pro abortion Republicans, who thought abortion rights were safe, will leave the GOP, and vote Democrat to keep abortion legal.

 

[JohnEngelman]

This will happen around the time Jimmy Hoffa knocks at the front door and asks if anyone's been missing him.

Jimmy Hoffa will not do that until Elvis Presley and Michael Jackson come out from hiding and go on tour together.

 

[Dribble]

Why is this surprising?

 

[domroger]

I personally do not approve of abortion.
That being said it is none of my business.
Abortion should be a matter between a woman and her health provider and not with anyone else.
What will happen next ?Will contraception be also be in control of the state and banned ?
This is the start of a slippery slope to the complete control of the individual.
Fascism at it's finest .

 

[icanhelp1]

I see the abortion issue as win - win for us Democrats.

Roe vs Wade led to the rise of the religious right. This is a largely lower middle class constituency that votes against their economic interests by voting Republican. Since 1980 they have voted Republican with the expectation that the GOP would overturn Roe. If the Supreme Court, with six Republican justices, betrays them on this issue, many will vote Democrat for economic reasons. Many others will retreat from politics and resume their passive wait for the Second Coming of Christ.

On the other hand, if the Supreme Court overturns Roe, many pro abortion Republicans, who thought abortion rights were safe, will leave the GOP, and vote Democrat to keep abortion legal.

The ruling is not banning abortion, it‘s putting abortion back to the states where it belongs.

 

[YDB95]

The ruling is not banning abortion, it‘s putting abortion back to the states where it belongs.

Effectively, that IS banning abortion in many parts of the country.
Mind you, I don't think it'll stay that way for long. It's just a question of how many women die before the backlash against this comes to fruition.

 

[ll74]

Yah, as soon as the ruling is official, more than 20 states will have harsh restrictions become law.

Voting has consequences. And constituents have believed the supreme court ruling was enough to hold the line

 

[Philthy_Phil]

The american taliban are making a comeback.

 

[ll74]

The right doesn't know what's coming. It won't be quiet. And it will be discussions specifically about expanding the court.

And the Democratic voter turnout just immediately went up for Nov.

 

[icanhelp1]

Effectively, that IS banning abortion in many parts of the country.
Mind you, I don't think it'll stay that way for long. It's just a question of how many women die before the backlash against this comes to fruition.

IT'S A PRELIMINARY DRAFT. The issue is the leak, someone did horrific damage to the sacrosanct of the Supreme court. People like you don't care about principle. The last bastion of our constitutional values and legal principles is now wounded. The highest court in the land has been violated, damaged perhaps beyond repair, trust within the court may never rise to the level needed to rule on some of the most controversial issues of our time because of a cancer that found its way into our judiciary. On to court packing and filibuster rules, might as well go for the jugular, make it a free for all, completely ruin our nation. This preemptive hit against the courts is a dangerous precedent and will affect the effectiveness of the how the courts operate in the future.