Feminization

[Shadowsdream]

he came to Her with a fantasy that must become his reality. From the first words that passed between them he could feel the possibility that at last someone understood who he was and why. The Domme spoke with him gently and with respect in Her words as She confirmed the validity of his needs. Her words soothed the pain he lived with in his denial of his desire to explore the feminine side of his personality.

...it is as much fantasy as reality that feminization is a forced circumstance....
anyone wishing to jump into this conversation on feminization?

 

[phace5]

Yes.........

I often fantasize about it.

Something really happened .

A neighbour, who was in her forties at the time joked about dressing me up for a fancy dress when I was about 15.

Through curiosity, when I was about 18, I was about to try her lipstick when I thought she wasn't looking.

She simply asked me not to, so I put it back.

I often wonder how other women may have reacted, or how she could have done had it annoyed her.

 

[Shadowsdream]

Re: Yes.........

I often fantasize about it.

Something really happened .

A neighbour, who was in her forties at the time joked about dressing me up for a fancy dress when I was about 15.

Through curiosity, when I was about 18, I was about to try her lipstick when I thought she wasn't looking.

She simply asked me not to, so I put it back.

I often wonder how other women may have reacted, or how she could have done had it annoyed her.

Do you fantasize about it past make up and hair?

 

[phace5]

Very often....

How would you react if you caught a young man in your make-up?

 

[Shadowsdream]

Re: Very often....

How would you react if you caught a young man in your make-up?

each circumstance is different..there is no script for reactions...it would depend who he was and what he meant to Me. Also how much of My privacy he invaded by having access to My make up.

 

[phace5]

Thi was a neighbour I'd known for about 9 years....

I'd sifted through her make-up bag in her bathroom.

She did tell her daughters, who teased me about it though.

 

[Shadowsdream]

Re: Thi was a neighbour I'd known for about 9 years....

I'd sifted through her make-up bag in her bathroom.

She did tell her daughters, who teased me about it though.

In that case I would have said go ahead..enjoy! I would have left the room.

 

[MissTaken]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but

wouldn't the feminization of a male go well beyond those artifical, superficial feminine things? Well beyond make up and hair dressing?


And wouldn't a man who had become "feminized" not find these things humiliating, but enjoyable, perhaps even necessary?

Very interesting topic, Shadowdream.

I look forward to learning!

 

[Shadowsdream]

Re: Correct me if I'm wrong, but

wouldn't the feminization of a male go well beyond those artifical, superficial feminine things? Well beyond make up and hair dressing?


And wouldn't a man who had become "feminized" not find these things humiliating, but enjoyable, perhaps even necessary?

Very interesting topic, Shadowdream.

I look forward to learning!

you are correct Miss T..feminization goes beyond the most obvious outward adornments of make up and hair..it goes beyond the dress and into the mind and emotions.
The humiliation is part of the enjoyment which contradicts with the internal needs.
Feminization although it is often rationalized by the male as *forced* is generally in reality an aspect of their need that the Dominant has recognized. She sets up the scenerios which will feed his release of feelings of guilt. Via commanding the transformation rather than leaving it up to his discretion.
It is simply one more dance in the BDSM lifestyle.

 

[MissTaken]

Ahh there is that "dance" analogy, again.

I love the imagery.

I am reading Exit to Eden, now by Anne Rice.

In the first few chapters, Elliot discusses his need for submission and servitude.

I just started it and can't wait to get further into it, but this thread reminded me of some of his conflict and observations.



As he disembarks the ship to the island, the slaves are naked, their hands are behind their heads and their eyes are lowered. One of the Masters has a whip or something and is moving them along with it.

Elliot thinks to himself that this is an interesting piece to the game, but that he wont' get caught. So he picks up his step and does as expected. Then, is surprised to find that while being a slave is a fantasy or game, they are making him "think like a slave."

I would imagine that this analogy could pertain to feminization. But then, how does one "think" like a woman?

 

[Shadowsdream]

Ahh there is that "dance" analogy, again.

I love the imagery.

I am reading Exit to Eden, now by Anne Rice.

In the first few chapters, Elliot discusses his need for submission and servitude.

I just started it and can't wait to get further into it, but this thread reminded me of some of his conflict and observations.



As he disembarks the ship to the island, the slaves are naked, their hands are behind their heads and their eyes are lowered. One of the Masters has a whip or something and is moving them along with it.

Elliot thinks to himself that this is an interesting piece to the game, but that he wont' get caught. So he picks up his step and does as expected. Then, is surprised to find that while being a slave is a fantasy or game, they are making him "think like a slave."

I would imagine that this analogy could pertain to feminization. But then, how does one "think" like a woman?

The thinking like a woman will begin when he is treated like a woman and reminded that in the eyes of the Dominant he is a woman. It will be confirmed by the way She changes his name from toy boy to pussy...the way Her hands fondle his breast rather than just torment his nipples.
When She stops him in his tracks to ask him what he thinks he is doing trying to walk like a man and insisting he continue with the sensual gyration of his hips that She expects to show off his sluttiness...the small innuendos will build and build until his real needs become second nature internally. It begins to become reality when he really understands that She accepts him for the woman he is during those luxurious moments of this freedom.

 

[WynEternal]

Was just wondering...

Can feminization theoretically be done on a female who is so much of a tomboy that she seems more masculine than feminine?

My apologies if this is off the topic of the thread.

 

[phace5]

Wyn Eternal.......

You probably read my earlier post on this thread about a neighbour who caught me looking in her make-up bag.

She told her 3 daughters who teased me.

How would you have dealt with me.....going through your cosmetics?

 

[Shadowsdream]

Re: Was just wondering...

Can feminization theoretically be done on a female who is so much of a tomboy that she seems more masculine than feminine?

My apologies if this is off the topic of the thread.

Yes it can..but for her to get something from it more than just the pleasure of obedience there must be some internal need to be more feminine than she has dared to be.
Some tom boys have an uncomfortable memory from their youth that has assisted them in redirecting their image to be more male than female.
She will find the same struggles with humiliation as a male may simply because she is going against the nature she may have created.

 

[Shadowsdream]

Re: Wyn Eternal.......

You probably read my earlier post on this thread about a neighbour who caught me looking in her make-up bag.

She told her 3 daughters who teased me.

How would you have dealt with me.....going through your cosmetics?

As I stated in My previous post in response to yours...~In that case I would have said go ahead..enjoy! I would have left the room.~

 

[Ebonyfire]

Love this thread

I will have to take time to gather my thoughts and post later.

 

[Shadowsdream]

Re: Love this thread

I will have to take time to gather my thoughts and post later.

I look forward to the post Ebony.

 

[WynEternal]

Re: Wyn Eternal.......

You probably read my earlier post on this thread about a neighbour who caught me looking in her make-up bag.

She told her 3 daughters who teased me.

How would you have dealt with me.....going through your cosmetics?

I'm not quite sure, as cosmetics are somewhat foreign to me.

But seriously, I think that it would be shock or amusement, depending on who it was and how long I've known them.

 

[phace5]

Okay then......

Supposing you were my neighbour and mother's friend, like she was and you caught me looking in your wardrobe?

 

[WynEternal]

Re: Re: Was just wondering...

Yes it can..but for her to get something from it more than just the pleasure of obedience there must be some internal need to be more feminine than she has dared to be.
Some tom boys have an uncomfortable memory from their youth that has assisted them in redirecting their image to be more male than female.
She will find the same struggles with humiliation as a male may simply because she is going against the nature she may have created.

Thanks for the insight, Shadows.

 

[Shadowsdream]

Re: Re: Re: Was just wondering...

Thanks for the insight, Shadows.

My pleasure...it is always interesting to see new twists to old subjects....

 

[WynEternal]

Re: Okay then......

Supposing you were my neighbour and mother's friend, like she was and you caught me looking in your wardrobe?

I do enjoy looking at men in kilts.

 

[Goddess Candy]

New ideas for reading...

Interesting subject...I wonder have any of you read the book Matriarchy Freedom in Bondage by Malcolm McKesson. It relates so well dealing with the transformation of boy "learning to curb his manly nature." It is supposed to be a semi-autobiography and I found it to be very enlightening on some of the thought process that those interested in feminization go through.

 

[WynEternal]

Re: New ideas for reading...

Interesting subject...I wonder have any of you read the book Matriarchy Freedom in Bondage by Malcolm McKesson. It relates so well dealing with the transformation of boy "learning to curb his manly nature." It is supposed to be a semi-autobiography and I found it to be very enlightening on some of the thought process that those interested in feminization go through.

Sounds like something I'd definately would be interested in reading. Is it something that can be ordered from Barnes & Nobels or is there a search involved?

 

[amsubone]

Re: New ideas for reading...

Interesting subject...I wonder have any of you read the book Matriarchy Freedom in Bondage by Malcolm McKesson. It relates so well dealing with the transformation of boy "learning to curb his manly nature." It is supposed to be a semi-autobiography and I found it to be very enlightening on some of the thought process that those interested in feminization go through.

i would think dealing with the "manly nature" would be difficult for both parties even if it something the male wants to do. The stretch for control and the release of control would seem, i think, to be a battle.

i've often wondered what it would be like, but between my body type and most photos i've seen, it leaves me hoping for more. The fantasy for me is that i would easily pass. In addition, it seems to me that it is more than clothing and makeup, but mannerisms to include walking, sitting, eating, talking, even lighting a cigarette.