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).PL, thanks for posting the list of stories and who wrote what (even though you misspelled slyc_willie, but I'll forgive you).
Glad you're back online.Sorry about the name. And what's awful, of course, was that the name was right there for me to copy. Man, it's one of those days.
 Finally, I hit upon the idea of making it memorable by making it in another language entirely, and then I wouldn't have to repeat it all that much - it would stand out by itself.
 Finally, I hit upon the idea of making it memorable by making it in another language entirely, and then I wouldn't have to repeat it all that much - it would stand out by itself.Plenty to say but I'll keep this about my basket, which included sarcasm, sport, intellect and food. I found this amusing because sport and food were prominent in my last long story (Rhythm & the Blue Line), and sarcasm figured in a bit.
As others have mentioned, a person's definition of all of those things might differ, so I tried to stick closely to the definitions provided. I'm like that. I wouldn't mark another story down for following different definitions; just explaining my approach. Also, my very first thought was a sarcastic chess player and an intellectual chef.I guess I like to combine things.
So -- sport was soccer. I guessed if I so much as mentioned hockey, the story would get attributed to me, and I think with "Be Awesome," that was a reasonable theory to hold. That's also why I set the story in Chicago, or at least, not the Washington, DC, or Philadelphia areas, since I figured that might be another tip-off. Some know I live in the Philly sphere of influence, and I have written about DC before. I opted for Chicago for a few reasons, including the fact that it's a big city with both sports teams and a big public transit system.
Sarcasm I'm not sure how well I did with this, but I tried. To me, being sarcastic and being a "smart alec," as in FAWCker's definition, aren't necessarily the same thing. My beta reader had suggested combining the sarcasm and intellect, which I also tried to do, although I was leery of creating a character that was a jerk.
However, I didn't leave the sarcasm just with the guy. I had the woman kind of stand up to it, and she lobbed back some of her own remarks.
Intellect was another tough one for me. I mean, you can say a character is smart, but how do you show it? And are we talking book smarts v. street smarts? Inherent ability to process information? So I gave the guy a job that (it seemed to me) would require some academic smarts as well as the ability to kind of think outside the box; he was a biomedical researcher. This didn't mean that the woman was not smart, she just wasn't smart in the same areas he was.
Food. This -- and a couple of other things -- I researched, including asking a college friend on Facebook who lives in Chicago. Hence the pierogies. If I'd had time to go back, I would have added paczkis, which I was told are wonderful dessert items. Food is an interesting thing because so much of our socialization centers around it, from having drinks to having dinners.
I had actually started a different version of this story, with some of the elements switched around, such as the woman filling the intellect role. I may finish that version at some point.
Personally, I thought the soccer aspect was more of a throw-in than an actual ingredient. It could as easily have been a baseball game or NASCAR race. It was a good story, and I liked the way the other three ingredients were used.
Okay, thoughts on Virtuoso:
I started the competition with a clean slate, as in, did not have any preconceived notions about what story to write or anything of the sort. I wanted to challenge myself with writing in a category I hadn't written in before... but that didn't happen.When I got my basket, the story I had envisioned was entirely different form the one I eventually wrote.
The thinking started from humility as I felt that that was the central ingredient in my basket. Everything else could be fitted in around that. I needed one of the characters to be something great in order to be humble about it, so the protag turned out to be a prodigy (in the earlier idea I had, it was a male professor with unparalleled expertise in a subject). Energetic had to be another character as humility and energetic didn't really go together in my head. I had trouble with trying to work with energetic, the same as sr. I felt that simply putting in references to his energy seemed unrelated to the story I was trying to tell. I think this is the weakest element in my story.
Color was the best ingredient I had. I usually have some sort of play on color in my stories so this was really my ingredient.I tried to play with something of an innocent to not-so-innocent arc throughout the story with the use of color.
And finally, phrase was the one I had the most trouble with. Whenever I tried to fit in a signature phrase that one of the characters used, it became repetitive and annoyed me... the one who was writing it, so I assumed it would annoy the reader too.Finally, I hit upon the idea of making it memorable by making it in another language entirely, and then I wouldn't have to repeat it all that much - it would stand out by itself.
Overall, this was the story I have done the most research for. Usually my stories are about things I know at least a little about, but I had no idea whatsoever about classical violin or music and I hope that doesn't show. Nor did I have any idea about Chinese.
So as I said, I scrapped the story idea I had initially because it was not going well and started this story almost two days before the deadline. I felt the story suffered because of the rush. I would have liked to have gone back and integrated energetic much more into the story rather than the way it is now. The sex was a little abysmal too but by then I was seriously running out of time.
That's about it. Thoughts and comments welcome.
Thanks.
I suppose I may have been making an effort to use the sport but not make it a major focal point as I have in other stories so as to make it less of a giveaway. It is important, though, in that it's how they meet and gives them a little something to bond over (and in her case, worry over) later.
That meeting, btw, is based on a real-life incident with me, although a few things were changed to make it more interesting.
Also, my very first thought was a sarcastic chess player and an intellectual chef.
I shouldn't say much about PennLady's "An Extra Ticket," as it rated identically to mine and I shouldn't brag or denigrate. (But I feel good that I rated with her.)
I'm one who doesn't think the job necessarily shows the intellect of the individual, so that part didn't fully convince me, and I was fighting against it with a "but . . . but, just because he has a brain job doesn't make him an . . ." the whole way.
Sport was OK, but I don't think anyone handled that element in any clever way--or that the element invited that being done. All you had to do was couch the story in some sport, and that's pretty much all I saw anyone with that element doing.
Maybe "Be Awesome" made more out of it that the others did. The pierogie would, I think, stick out as a sore thumb in a story not in this exercise and it seemed artificially introduced as a story element, so as far as the food element, it met requirements but not all that well integrated, I didn't think.
I didn't leave the story thinking that the worlds of these two people were coming together in either world or in a compromise one.
I had no inkling this was by PennLady. I think it wise to have used something other than hockey given the sport element, though (especially since, having lived abroad, I've played soccer but have zero interest in hockey).
I agree that sarcasm and intellect are not easy to write and I think you did a nice job with them. I enjoyed reading yours.
That's intriguing! Would have loved to read that.
Okay, my turn.
A Chance At Passion
Believe it or not, I didn't choose the title for this one to keep it near the top of the list. Once I was finished with it, it seemed the best choice.
Gambling (Game/Toy) was obviously the central theme of the story and why Brett was in Del Rio in the first place. I took liberties with describing the actual games as they went on, not wanting to prolong the descriptions. I wanted them to be as simplistic as possible.
I felt I used Recklessness fairly well, not only in Brett's actions while gambling but in Ino's as well (the audacity of giving a blowjob in the bathroom at work, for instance). Ultimately, I hoped, the entire story was about being reckless, taking chances, and being rewarded for being willing to put everything in your life on the line.
Energetic, as was mentioned before, wasn't as easy to work in without being obvious about it. I think I used it pretty well when describing how Ino gave herself to Brett, as if desperate for affection (which, obviously, she was). I tried not to use the actual word itself too much, as I felt that would stand out painfully.
Finally, use of the cherry-apple pie as the Food item was pretty much a throw-in, I admit. I tried to work it in a little less obviously than I did, but every time I mentioned it, I felt I was doing so just to meet some kind of requirement in my mind.
I think I will probably re-submit this one in an appropriate category once FAWC is over. I liked writing this story.
 Maybe that's just me, but it's a bugaboo of mine and is, I think, purely a male fantasy--but certainly not one of mine. I think--and like to think--that it's implausible. It ruins my view of the female character.
 Maybe that's just me, but it's a bugaboo of mine and is, I think, purely a male fantasy--but certainly not one of mine. I think--and like to think--that it's implausible. It ruins my view of the female character.Okay, my turn.
A Chance At Passion
Believe it or not, I didn't choose the title for this one to keep it near the top of the list. Once I was finished with it, it seemed the best choice.
Gambling (Game/Toy) was obviously the central theme of the story and why Brett was in Del Rio in the first place. I took liberties with describing the actual games as they went on, not wanting to prolong the descriptions. I wanted them to be as simplistic as possible.
I felt I used Recklessness fairly well, not only in Brett's actions while gambling but in Ino's as well (the audacity of giving a blowjob in the bathroom at work, for instance). Ultimately, I hoped, the entire story was about being reckless, taking chances, and being rewarded for being willing to put everything in your life on the line.
Energetic, as was mentioned before, wasn't as easy to work in without being obvious about it. I think I used it pretty well when describing how Ino gave herself to Brett, as if desperate for affection (which, obviously, she was). I tried not to use the actual word itself too much, as I felt that would stand out painfully.
Finally, use of the cherry-apple pie as the Food item was pretty much a throw-in, I admit. I tried to work it in a little less obviously than I did, but every time I mentioned it, I felt I was doing so just to meet some kind of requirement in my mind.
I think I will probably re-submit this one in an appropriate category once FAWC is over. I liked writing this story.
 --has commented so extensively on mine).
--has commented so extensively on mine).Thank you.I did enjoy your story. What amused me about people thinking I wrote it is that aside from the hockey, there was nothing else that was "me" about it, I didn't think. I do not write rough or abusive sex, and even though I wrote one lesbian story, that's hardly a pattern.
Like sr71, I had a little trouble with your protagonist. I realize that athletes run the gamut in terms of personality like any other group, but for her to be a goalie -- a high-pressure, very individual position in an otherwise team-focused sport -- and be that unsure of herself didn't seem quite right. It seemed more low self-esteem than humility, to me, although I could see where you were going with it. To me, she could not have been that good if she was so lacking in confidence.
The story was well-told and well-written, though, which I think shows because I did read to the end. I mean, I wanted to read it b/c it was in the contest and I couldn't fully comment otherwise, but also, I wanted to see how it turned out.
I wondered how the ending would go over with different people. I don't mind that she went with the guy -- she could be bisexual or bicurious or whatever -- but I bet that would rub some people the wrong way.
I think you might have Damppanties tagged with the wrong story, PL.
I haven't read "Virtuoso" yet, which is the one Damppanties wrote. (And that I ran out of time and haven't read it yet is why I haven't commented on it. But I will and will. I'm grateful that Damppanties--I keep wanting to reduce that to DP, but since I'm up to my neck in putting together a two-volume anthology on male double penetration sex now, that probably wouldn't be too polite--has commented so extensively on mine).
Be Awesome was patientlee's, not mine.
The votes have all been assessed for the second Friendly Anonymous Writing Challenge, and the result is . . . .

Congratulations, MistressLynn!
Really? I thought Virtuoso was not quite my 'style,' that is, if I have one.
xelliebabex and TxTallTales guessed mine correctly though, which was really interesting. I want to know what tipped them off!
With other guessers, I was thought to have written Spilling the Seed, An Extra Ticket, A Chance at Passion and An Inquiry. I must admit that this was extremely flattering as I felt all those stories were better than mine.

Another discussion question I would be interested in would be what category you would have put your story in if it wasn't destined for Chain Stories. Did not having the choice free you not to worry about it or to write across category lines?
I would put mine in Mature--and I chose the category before anything else based on the challenge of doing it for a contest. And while writing it, I kept that category in mind as if I was submitting it to a contest in the Mature category--and challenging voters to take it on its own merits rather than what were the more popular categories for a contest.
It actually occurred to me when I saw the author/story list that PennLady posted. Sorta threw me when I read what stories belonged to who. I didn't really care when I was reading, because I was sorta going with the "anonymous" aspect of the exercise.
But thinking back now after seeing the list, I thought it was interesting. Then I thought "what if Naoko or Willie had to write this category with some category specific basket? Or PennLady or Pilot or whoever else?" I wondered what kind of stories would turn out. It would be a good exercise for the writers to try their hands on different topics, and also to get a chance to feel out a crowd (readers) that they've never written for, gauge the reception so to speak.
The Cat could be chosen by all authors involved. Hopefully, seeing a bunch of FAWC stories clogged at the top of the "New Stories" listing wouldn't piss the readership off there. I mean, all that has changed is there are a lot more new stories written by unnamed authors.
Sorry, just my thoughts.
How long until we can pull our stories down? I plan to pull mine and do major re-work to it. I should have never entered it, it felt forced and weird and until the last minute I was considering pulling out of the contest. Any feedback is appreciated, and Congrats Lynn. You wrote a fine story indeed!
 It was a good writing exercise and I feel I know some of the authors just a little better.
 It was a good writing exercise and I feel I know some of the authors just a little better. great writing everyone
 great writing everyone 