Fast-food workers push for $15 an hour

[Sean]

Not if you or your kids are hungry. A job is a job.

And you've just told management that you're prepared to be fucked up the arse any time they feel like it. They want to cut your wages? Fine. Increase your hours without pay? Fine. Fire you with zero notice without cause? Fine. It's slow suicide.

 

[Adre]

Not if you or your kids are hungry. A job is a job.

He advocates theft in that case.

 

[KRCummings]

And you've just told management that you're prepared to be fucked up the arse any time they feel like it. They want to cut your wages? Fine. Increase your hours without pay? Fine. Fire you with zero notice without cause? Fine. It's slow suicide.

Yes but in the meantime your family eats.
Some scabs are just being assholes, others are doing what they have to do.

 

[miles]

Why aren't they asking for $20/hour?

 

[Sean]

He advocates theft in that case.

Yep, I have no problem ripping off global multi-nationals to feed a family.

Yes but in the meantime your family eats.
Some scabs are just being assholes, others are doing what they have to do.

Until they decide your family won't eat. And you've surrendered the only weapon you have. It's like handing over your Jews to the invading Wehrmacht to keep yourself out of the concentration camp for an extra month.

 

[koalabear]

Why aren't they asking for $20/hour?

They are trying to be reasonable.

 

[Joeybagadonuts]

I have no documentation to support my point so don't ask but I think that before the social services network was built, the real power brokers in the US had to buy into it and it has to do with the psychology of revolution rather than benevolence. Give people enough to survive or they will come and cut your throat and take what's yours.

But rather than the threat of anarchy, I would like people to buy into the concept that what is good for the lower class is good for the middle class and ultimately good for the 1%.

 

[Joeybagadonuts]

Why aren't they asking for $20/hour?

stfu, miles

 

[GuiltyPleasure]

He advocates theft in that case.

We've been here already. He's a confessed shoplifter, one can only hope he gats nabbed.

 

[miles]

I have no documentation to support my point so don't ask but I think that before the social services network was built, the real power brokers in the US had to buy into it and it has to do with the psychology of revolution rather than benevolence. Give people enough to survive or they will come and cut your throat and take what's yours.

But rather than the threat of anarchy, I would like people to buy into the concept that what is good for the lower class is good for the middle class and ultimately good for the 1%.

You're sounding more and more like Spidey every day.

Fucking idiot.

 

[RjThoughts]

Even from a self interest pov, crossing picket lines is akin to shooting yourself in the head.

My mother's grandfathers were members of both the United Mine Workers and United Steelworkers back in the 1900s to the 1920s, before they moved from PA and found work at General Electric and American Locomotive. They were BIG TIME union members. They fought to live, not just to have a "living wage".

Tell me, what union today deserves your words, when it comes to crossing a picket line? What picket lines are you talking about? Ones at McDonalds, Burger King? No, I won't cross them, because I know most of the people working there have no other choice but to work there? At Walmart, where corporate sells overseas merchandise at a 200%+ market up and keeps their employees pay and benefits to asinine low levels? Are we talking about restaurant servers at corporate franchises, like Applebees and Ruby Tuesday, where they receive only $2.13/hour and then have to hope to God people tip them well so they can cover their taxes?

Or are we talking about the picketing at a person's home because someone hired their OMG non-union brother-in-law to paint their house or fix the tub? Picketing the mom-and-pop store because they refused to hire union drivers to deliver their wares?

Picket lines are not black and white. There are shades of gray.

 

[koalabear]

My mother's grandfathers were members of both the United Mine Workers and United Steelworkers back in the 1900s to the 1920s, before they moved from PA and found work at General Electric and American Locomotive. They were BIG TIME union members. They fought to live, not just to have a "living wage".

Tell me, what union today deserves your words, when it comes to crossing a picket line? What picket lines are you talking about? Ones at McDonalds, Burger King? No, I won't cross them, because I know most of the people working there have no other choice but to work there? At Walmart, where corporate sells overseas merchandise at a 200%+ market up and keeps their employees pay and benefits to asinine low levels? Are we talking about restaurant servers at corporate franchises, like Applebees and Ruby Tuesday, where they receive only $2.13/hour and then have to hope to God people tip them well so they can cover their taxes?

Or are we talking about the picketing at a person's home because someone hired their OMG non-union brother-in-law to paint their house or fix the tub? Picketing the mom-and-pop store because they refused to hire union drivers to deliver their wares?

Picket lines are not black and white. There are shades of gray.

We are talking about SEIU officials wanting a pay raise for themselves.

 

[chillywilly2]

stfu, miles

cripes, what took you so long

 

[RjThoughts]

We are talking about SEIU officials wanting a pay raise for themselves.

The GOP scapegoat for everything.

Hire a new composer, because this song is tired.

 

[Adre]

Yep, I have no problem ripping off global multi-nationals to feed a family.

You'd rip off the corner bodega. Your situational ethics are showing.

 

[Sean]

You'd rip off the corner bodega. Your situational ethics are showing.

You don't get to comment on ethics, scab.

 

[Balladeer08]

Funny, I thought the constitution was a list of what the government couldn't do. The presumption being that anything not enumerated in the constitution was a de facto right until proven otherwise.

Bingo!

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

So the unemployable are going to go on strike? Who's going to care?

Welfare needs to be slashed. Government needs to be slashed. Time for gang savages to wise up or wind up on a fucking reservation in the middle of nowhere, get the fuck out, or be hunted.

You're aware you've adopted a contradictory position.

Either fast food companies pay their workers more, or you pay more in taxes so welfare can increase. You can't have it both ways.

 

[Balladeer08]

Slave wages is an appropriate term. I'm not a historian but I have to assume that slave owners gave their slaves enough food and shelter to survive. $7.25 an hour is not enough money for one to feed and shelter themselves.

We have a winner!

 

[Adre]

You don't get to comment on ethics, scab.

But actually I do.

 

[Busybody]

We have a winner!

slaves had NO CHOICE

these so called "workers" do

right DUMMY?

 

[LJ_Reloaded]

Shut em down, let people fend for themselves.

Yeah, shut them down and bankrupt the owners and rich people who depend on these workers.

Sounds good to me. The workers can come back and take over once the company goes bankrupt.

 

[koalabear]

Doubling McDonald's Salaries Would Cause Your Big Mac To Cost Just 68¢ More: Study.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/29/mcdonalds-salaries_n_3672006.html?utm_hp_ref=mostpopular

 

[dan_c00000]

Salon reports this week that fast-food workers in New York City staged a walkout, while workers in Chicago, St. Louis, Detroit, Milwaukee, Kansas City and Flint, Mich., went on strike. Backed by the Service Employees International Union and local advocacy groups, workers in each city had the same demands: a raise to $15 per hour and the chance to form a union without intimidation by management.

http://money.msn.com/now/post--fast-food-workers-push-for-dollar15-an-hour

Good luck with that.

Don't you earn like $8.75 working at Carl's Jr.?

 

[LJ_Reloaded]

Don't you earn like $8.75 working at Carl's Jr.?

If he did then he'd earn less than women did, according to one of your bogus studies.