Should it be customary to tip fast food workers?

[renard_ruse]

Instead of making unrealistic demands like a $15 minimum wage for entry level fast food employees, wouldn't it make more sense to push for tipping to be customary at these places? When you pick up your order, there's a tip jar and you are expected to put in a buck or two. With the amount of volume many of these restaurants do that would add up by the end of the day.

Its dumb that some jobs get tips and other don't, even though they might pay the same low wage. You don't hear waitresses at fancy restaurants demanding $15 an hour wage. They make most of their money from tips.

 

[renard_ruse]

Also, raise the social status of food service workers. Why is it ok to belittle these jobs?

People who put down or make jokes about those who work at these jobs could be accused of fastfoodworkerophobia and forced to attend fastfoodworker sensitivity training.

 

[renard_ruse]

Working in fastfood is an equally valid lifestyle choice. Some might even say people are born with an orientation to become fastfood workers and its not even a choice at all. They can't help themselves and don't want to live a lie, like working in an office or at a construction site.

 

[renard_ruse]

Efforts to re-train fastfood workers should be outlawed by forward thinking states like California and New Jersey. Its unfair to expect them to change just to fit in with the non-fastfood working majority.

 

[Disgustipated]

You wouldn't qualify for any of those jobs, Yates.

 

[badbabysitter]

Working in fastfood is an equally valid lifestyle choice. Some might even say people are born with an orientation to become fastfood workers and its not even a choice at all. They can't help themselves and don't want to live a lie, like working in an office or at a construction site.

I love renard logic

people can't chose to not be fast food workers

but they can chose to be gay

 

[Dazzle1]

Sorry take out or getting something from a counter do not warrant a tip

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

What is funny is that last week I saw on the Good Morning News that the wife and daughter watch, that establishments are seriously considering eliminating the tip altogether...

 

[RobDownSouth]

Sorry take out or getting something from a counter do not warrant a tip

For once, I agree with J-w.

 

[FGB]

Tip them?

Some of them I've seen can barley stand up and walk like it is!

And NOBODY can fuck up an order like "Mickey D's"

I think they train them to do that.

 

[peterlychen]

I don't agree with a one-time transaction warranting a tip. Gathering the items for a single order is less work than a Wal-Mart checker moving a basket of groceries on a busy Sunday afternoon. I'm sure the latter have NEVER received tips. Most would appreciate a "thank-you" and a smile from the patrons.
However if you loop back to do something (waitstaff) or build something really complicated drink for me at Starbucks then a tip is warranted.
On the other hand, I'd be ok with a slight increase in my McD fry price to help pay for health benefits for workers.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Tips are gratuities. Do you know what a gratuity is? I thought you did, cuz you have a PhD in Gay Literature Criticism.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Tip the Walmart Greeter to look the other way while you shoplift...

 

[renard_ruse]

Sorry take out or getting something from a counter do not warrant a tip

Yet, bringing a plate to a table warrants 20%?

Fastfood is almost certainly more difficult job than waitress at a fancy restaurant.

 

[renard_ruse]

I don't agree with a one-time transaction warranting a tip. Gathering the items for a single order is less work than a Wal-Mart checker moving a basket of groceries on a busy Sunday afternoon. I'm sure the latter have NEVER received tips. Most would appreciate a "thank-you" and a smile from the patrons.
However if you loop back to do something (waitstaff) or build something really complicated drink for me at Starbucks then a tip is warranted.
On the other hand, I'd be ok with a slight increase in my McD fry price to help pay for health benefits for workers.

Well, we disagree. I would rather give a tip than pay more for imposing benefit requirements on employers by government decree (or social pressure).

Why are "health benefits" so important anyway? What about those in good health who never use them?

 

[renard_ruse]

What is funny is that last week I saw on the Good Morning News that the wife and daughter watch, that establishments are seriously considering eliminating the tip altogether...

I don't believe waitresses deserve 20% and fastfood workers deserve nothing. That's ridiculous.

 

[renard_ruse]

Sorry take out or getting something from a counter do not warrant a tip

Stop being a greedy Democrat.

 

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[dicknjane]

Union workers should show their support and require members to tip...

This is a phony movement to unionize a transitory industry to force increased union wages across the board.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Yet, bringing a plate to a table warrants 20%?

Fastfood is almost certainly more difficult job than waitress at a fancy restaurant.

Depends on the quality of the service.

I've been at restaurants where no food was on the table 90 minutes after I ordered.

I was thrown out of one restaurant after the server dumped a tray of plates on my daughter. She, btw, got her dinner 30 minutes after the rest of us were served. The manager then did a belly flop on the table to keep us from finishing our meal. That was after I calmly told her the service sucks. Reminded me of the old Juicy Lucy album cover.

http://www.yesfans.com/showthread.php?65828-The-Worst-Album-Cover-Thread/page4

 

[renard_ruse]

Union workers should show their support and require members to tip...

This is a phony movement to unionize a transitory industry to force increased union wages across the board.

Maybe that's not so bad. I remember when the grocery employees went on strike about 10 years ago. I made that very argument, that even non-union employees benefit from unions because the wage levels in general go up. Of course, I see the reverse side of it in terms of inflation and higher prices.

I guess I'm truly centrist on economic issues. I can see both sides, rather than the economic conservative/laisse-faire libertarians and the union hack/socialist/economic liberals.

 

[phrodeau]

Sorry take out or getting something from a counter do not warrant a tip

For once, I agree with J-w.

The cooks worked just as hard on your order as on the ones dining in.

 

[LiFeNdEaTh]

i don't tip noone..

 

[rosco rathbone]

Instead of making unrealistic demands like a $15 minimum wage for entry level fast food employees, wouldn't it make more sense to push for tipping to be customary at these places? When you pick up your order, there's a tip jar and you are expected to put in a buck or two. With the amount of volume many of these restaurants do that would add up by the end of the day.

Would not work. There's no social pressure to tip in a jar, whilst standing in a line for a minute or two and dealing with someone who is basically a glorified cashier.

A waiter at a sitdown place is performing a one on one service. Stiffing them is much harder.

 

[unregistered]