Execution in Ohio

[Boxlicker101]

Some people are complaining because this scum may have felt some discomfort while being put to death. http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...tion-raises-legal-ethical-questions-/4604047/

Personally, I would prefer he felt the agony of the damned for thousands of years.

 

[StrangeLife]

Personally, I would prefer he felt the agony of the damned for thousands of years.

I agree - but our founding fathers did not.

Cruel and unusual punishment is in direct violation of the eight amendment, so this could very well end up in SCOTUS. It wouldn't be the first time they've looked at the death penalty.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Some people are complaining because this scum may have felt some discomfort while being put to death. http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...tion-raises-legal-ethical-questions-/4604047/

Personally, I would prefer he felt the agony of the damned for thousands of years.

One of Thomas Jeffersons grandsons was a US Marshal at Tallahassee almost 200 years ago, during Territorial days. It was his job to hang convicted felons. On one occasion the convict escaped jail and hid till the courts term expired, then he returned to town, where Thomas Randolph found him in a saloon. The convict knew Randolph couldn't touch him beyond jailing him till the next term of the court, and cooperated, confident his pals would get him out.

So Randolph tied the man up, escorted him to the nearest oak tree, and hanged him.

 

[RobDownSouth]

Aaaaand we're done here.

I agree - but our founding fathers did not.

Cruel and unusual punishment is in direct violation of the eight amendment, so this could very well end up in SCOTUS. It wouldn't be the first time they've looked at the death penalty.

/Thread over

 

[Dazzle1]

I agree - but our founding fathers did not.

Cruel and unusual punishment is in direct violation of the eight amendment, so this could very well end up in SCOTUS. It wouldn't be the first time they've looked at the death penalty.

Although the people complaining about creul and unusual are not really interested in ahumane form of death. How would this be for a solution.

Bring back the guillotiine, quick and sure.

Sedete the scum. But cutting off a head is pretty final.

 

[miles]

If what they say is true, 25 minutes sounds like a long time. Next time just string the guy up.

 

[Wat_Tyler]

I imagine that his death was more pleasant than that of his victim.


I'd like to see an argument to eliminate the death penalty based on a 9th/10th amendment right to life, since the 8th argument doesn't seem to make any hay.

 

[StrangeLife]

Bring back the guillotiine, quick and sure.

Sedete the scum. But cutting off a head is pretty final.

We've never had it.

But it's not a bad idea to import a few. Surely it beats all the other methods currently available in the US - from the view of the con as well as the executioner. Low tech and cheap yet quick and highly efficient. It even works if the power is out.

Trust the French to cook up the perfect killing machine...

http://thechirurgeonsapprentice.files.wordpress.com/2012/08/guillotine2.jpg

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

I imagine that his death was more pleasant than that of his victim.


I'd like to see an argument to eliminate the death penalty based on a 9th/10th amendment right to life, since the 8th argument doesn't seem to make any hay.

Its all make-work for ambulance chasers.

 

[Wat_Tyler]

Its all make-work for ambulance chasers.

Last I heard, and I ain't searching it because I don't care enough, is it is more cost effective to keep them in the pen for 50 years than to off them, what with all the appeals to this, that, and the other court.


I think a right to life argument could get the death penalty tossed, and I am surprised it hasn't been done, or if it has, I haven't heard of it.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Last I heard, and I ain't searching it because I don't care enough, is it is more cost effective to keep them in the pen for 50 years than to off them, what with all the appeals to this, that, and the other court.


I think a right to life argument could get the death penalty tossed, and I am surprised it hasn't been done, or if it has, I haven't heard of it.

Youre correct. One of my old clients is on death row, his accomplices got 20 and 25 years for their testimony, one was released around Christmas (she cut the victims throat), the two guys restrained the victim while she cut. She was upset cuz momma wouldn't let her fuck guys at home. But she was a minor. At court she appeared in a pinafore and mary janes, and announced that mommy had forgiven her.

The one on death row will prolly die there of old age. He was 18 back then.

 

[Boxlicker101]

Last I heard, and I ain't searching it because I don't care enough, is it is more cost effective to keep them in the pen for 50 years than to off them, what with all the appeals to this, that, and the other court.


I think a right to life argument could get the death penalty tossed, and I am surprised it hasn't been done, or if it has, I haven't heard of it.

There are way too many appeals. Evidence of innocence should always be heard, but an appeal on the ground that the DA farted or something equally frivolous should be rejected.

The method in use when the Constitution was written was public hanging. Maybe we should go back to that.

 

[Boxlicker101]

Youre correct. One of my old clients is on death row, his accomplices got 20 and 25 years for their testimony, one was released around Christmas (she cut the victims throat), the two guys restrained the victim while she cut. She was upset cuz momma wouldn't let her fuck guys at home. But she was a minor. At court she appeared in a pinafore and mary janes, and announced that mommy had forgiven her.

The one on death row will prolly die there of old age. He was 18 back then.

I honestly believe more people die of natural causes than are put to death by the state.

 

[Wat_Tyler]

Youre correct. One of my old clients is on death row, his accomplices got 20 and 25 years for their testimony, one was released around Christmas (she cut the victims throat), the two guys restrained the victim while she cut. She was upset cuz momma wouldn't let her fuck guys at home. But she was a minor. At court she appeared in a pinafore and mary janes, and announced that mommy had forgiven her.

The one on death row will prolly die there of old age. He was 18 back then.

There are way too many appeals. Evidence of innocence should always be heard, but an appeal on the ground that the DA farted or something equally frivolous should be rejected.

The method in use when the Constitution was written was public hanging. Maybe we should go back to that.

I can get behind life without parole. I don't think it's the state's job to be killing its citizenry no matter how heinous their actions. It's mighty damn tough to pardon a guy you fired because some new evidence came up afterward.


And the flock of shitbird buzzard lawyers dissipates, too.

 

[StrangeLife]

I'd like to see an argument to eliminate the death penalty based on a 9th/10th amendment right to life...

There's no mention of right to life in any part of the Bill of Rights.

You might have it confused with the UDHR article 3, which does state that "every person has the right to life." However the UDHR does not explicitly prohibits taking that life away later though, and that's how the US interprets it.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

I can get behind life without parole. I don't think it's the state's job to be killing its citizenry no matter how heinous their actions. It's mighty damn tough to pardon a guy you fired because some new evidence came up afterward.


And the flock of shitbird buzzard lawyers dissipates, too.

Life is precious and sacred.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

I can get behind life without parole. I don't think it's the state's job to be killing its citizenry no matter how heinous their actions. It's mighty damn tough to pardon a guy you fired because some new evidence came up afterward.


And the flock of shitbird buzzard lawyers dissipates, too.

My thinking is more along the lines of: Give defendants competent lawyers and 5 years to make appeals, then hang them.

If you wanna keep the players awake and interested punish jurors, lawyers, cops, and judges who get it wrong. The government does this already. I recall a case where a kid was murdered by mom's boyfriend.

The killer got some small bit of inconvenience for his murder, but the state hanged everyone who ever touched the case. Mom wasn't troubled by anyone, tho she moved the boyfriend in inspite of a court order. The case worker lost her job, the acting supervisor lost her job, the supervisor on maternity leave was fired, and up the line to the district administrator. The media had an orgasm tho none of the players killed the girl or dropped the ball. Every rule was followed to the tee.

So lets do the same to other players. When a juror gets it wrong, put her in jail for 5 years. Fire the detective. Disbar the lawyer. Impeach the judge.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

There's no mention of right to life in any part of the Bill of Rights.

You might have it confused with the UDHR article 3, which does state that "every person has the right to life." However the UDHR does not explicitly prohibits taking that life away later though, and that's how the US interprets it.

That is because it is implied in the concept of Natural Rights that underpin the Constitution.

If you have no right to life then force and strength rule. If you do, then cooperation (division of labor) rules. This leads to the right to pursuit of happiness. Right to property is then implied because it is gained by a trade of a portion of your labor or intellect (life) in the pursuit of happiness.
A_J, the Stupid

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

My thinking is more along the lines of: Give defendants competent lawyers and 5 years to make appeals, then hang them.

If you wanna keep the players awake and interested punish jurors, lawyers, cops, and judges who get it wrong. The government does this already. I recall a case where a kid was murdered by mom's boyfriend.

The killer got some small bit of inconvenience for his murder, but the state hanged everyone who ever touched the case. Mom wasn't troubled by anyone, tho she moved the boyfriend in inspite of a court order. The case worker lost her job, the acting supervisor lost her job, the supervisor on maternity leave was fired, and up the line to the district administrator. The media had an orgasm tho none of the players killed the girl or dropped the ball. Every rule was followed to the tee.

So lets do the same to other players. When a juror gets it wrong, put her in jail for 5 years. Fire the detective. Disbar the lawyer. Impeach the judge.

I feel as strongly about the Death Penalty as I do Abortion.

That is called consistency.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

There are way too many appeals. Evidence of innocence should always be heard, but an appeal on the ground that the DA farted or something equally frivolous should be rejected.

The method in use when the Constitution was written was public hanging. Maybe we should go back to that.

Youre right.

Like I said, make the governments resources available to the defendant, to impeach evidence. And if it cant be done within 5 years, hang the defendant.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

I feel as strongly about the Death Penalty as I do Abortion.

That is called consistency.

I've never met an evil killer fetus.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

I've never met an evil killer fetus.

Hitler and Stalin come to mind...

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Hitler and Stalin come to mind...

Stupid girls, who let these monsters out, come to mind. Better eternity in a coffin.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

They cannot help themselves...



It's their Whore-moans.

 

[miles]

Methinks the law of unintended consequences is at work trying to make execution more humane.