Ever try to talk with a Liberal? Don't...

[Wok]

For somebody screaming about liberty, freedom and the American way is so quick to embrace the very ideals he despises.

When it does not fit his agenda.

 

[amicus]

It's true; I was a little defensive, but that's probably because the OP suggested that I am a coward lacking in honour, values, and principles. And thank you - I don't think that you fuck your dog either.

Why does it matter what marriage has been in the past? If an institution is outdated and discriminatory, we nix it or fix it. Would you have sided with slavery during the civil war because that's how it had always been? I also find your proposed justification silly, as it completely discounts heterosexual couples who choose not to have children.

To me, human liberty suggests that anyone can live wherever they choose (including next door to you, if that individual is terribly unlucky) and exercise their rights and freedoms to influence their governments and societies. You do not get to decide to whom human liberty applies based on your own biases.

And no, it's not rational to cling to an ethos from 40 years ago. You're dead wrong in your opinions on homosexuality, but I recognize that nothing I say will change that (thought I am curious as to your rationale - I thought homophobia typically stemmed from religious beliefs, but that does not appear to be the case).

Abortion is an irrepressible market. Women will seek out abortions regardless of their legality. I'd rather it be safe and regulated. Would you disagree? If you wish to reduce the number of abortions, then encourage education about and access to birth control.

~~~

On a personal level, the most civil Post thus far, but still barbed, a supercilious concerit that says you know you are right and no one can prove you wrong. That is faith and all your refutations are, 'faith, belief', nary a shred of logical or rational reasoning.

I have mentioned before that I am a skilled debater with decades of experience before some really tough houses, hardly ever got a laugh, bishpos, priest, nuns, college profs, lesbians advocates of everything I oppose...I picked the toughest and the best....and never...never...lost an argument to reason.

You are wrong on all counts, your arguments are weak and unsupportable and I will do you the honor of telling you why.

Yes, my OP states and gives reason why Liberals have no honor. hold no values and express no principles. Those words I chose were not drawn randomly from the ethernet, they have meaning, are related and are absolute by definition.

Principles, values and honor are based on an individual defending good against bad, right against wrong; on an indiviudal understanding why those, 'right and good' things he supports are that way.

Not a single Liberal here, or basically anywhere will accept the concept of an universal, or absolute moral truth based on reasoln and rationality. They, and perhaps you included, wiil not and can not utter a single truth, a sngle absolute choice between good and bad, right and wrong.

You can not, for if you did, your entire moral faith would crumble as it depends upon a moveable feast of subjective and relative choices.

Liberals, by definiton, can have no principles, morals or values for they reject the foundation of such. 'Whatever works' regardless of the costs to individuals, is not a good moral philosophy.

Why does it matter what marriage has been in the past? If an institution is outdated and discriminatory, we nix it or fix it. Would you have sided with slavery during the civil war because that's how it had always been? I also find your proposed justification silly, as it completely discounts heterosexual couples who choose not to have children.

The history of man is composed of what has been in the past, don't play silly with me. The institution of marriage is neither outdated or discriminatory, it has, does, and always will do as it was intended. Establish a family, protect the woman and the child by law.

Slavery is a red herring and you know it. If you wish to debate that issue, then offer to.

My explanation of the legal, social and philosophical underpinnings of marriage between a man and a woman and in no way silly and they do not discount, but include heterosexuals who do not or can not have children. Those couplse can and do legally adopt and they can prosper under the umbrella of protection provided by the marriage contract with legal enforcement.

"To me, human liberty suggests that anyone can live wherever they choose (including next door to you, if that individual is terribly unlucky) and exercise their rights and freedoms to influence their governments and societies. You do not get to decide to whom human liberty applies based on your own biases."

If you will check my wording, I said, 'I do not want...'. a personal preference which I do have a right to have and voice. Naughty person with, 'biases' they are my opinions just as you have yours, play nice. There are neighborhoods I would not move into for reasons of my own, mayhaps you have yours as well?Live next to me? Enjoy the classical azz wafting aross my flower beds? I am unalterably opposed to open homosexuality and abortion for any reason other than preserving the life of the mother. You do your best to oppose me as I will to stop you.

And no, it's not rational to cling to an ethos from 40 years ago. You're dead wrong in your opinions on homosexuality, but I recognize that nothing I say will change that (thought I am curious as to your rationale - I thought homophobia typically stemmed from religious beliefs, but that does not appear to be the case).

What, you can't hold back on the bitchy nastiness for even a few minutes?

Sodomy was an ethos in biblical times, get a life!

I am dead right on homosexuality in all forms, it is, by definition, un natural, not of nature and please don't drag out the animal kingdom, okay?

Far from me being a homphobe, those of you who advocate killing defenseless babies in the womb are the truest haters of mankind of all. I happen to love people, cheerish and worship mankind, all but those who, as you do, want to use force to get your way.

I am and have always been, an atheist, thank you.

"Abortion is an irrepressible market. Women will seek out abortions regardless of their legality. I'd rather it be safe and regulated. Would you disagree? If you wish to reduce the number of abortions, then encourage education about and access to birth control."

Let me fix that for you:

"Rape is an irrepressible market. Women will seek out sex regardless of their legality. I'd rather neither happened and both were punished.. Would you disagree? If you wish to reduce the number of abortions, then be moral, respect sex and do not be so damned promiscuous!""

Your argument is specious and sophistic. Because we can not completely eliminate murder we should nonetheless make it painfless or somethng?

You have stated what you believe, what you, 'feel', and you have every right to do so, but when in formal conversation you are trying to stand on water, no foundatoin, no logic, no reason, no raitonality and your arguments are useless.

I don't like old ladies or kittens either....

amicus veritas (maybe go back and edit later)

 

[LiFeNdEaTh]

amicus... you're the man for having "NOBAMA" on your sig. hahah

 

[amicus]

Rob, if you just posted his real name and he hasn't made it public, please edit. He's a douche, for sure, a Rush Limbaugh wannabe, and not as good at the game as Rush, and his politics are full of hate, but please color inside the lines?

~~~

From the definitons below, it appears you may have accurately done some name callintg....is my tongue a, 'device wudja think?

douche /ˈduːʃ/ is a device used to introduce a stream of water into the body for medical or hygienic reasons, or the stream of water itself.


"Eating pussy" redirects here. For other uses see Eat Pussy.

Watercolor painting by Achille Devéria depicting cunnilingus

Cunnilingus is an oral sex act performed on a female. It involves the use by a sex partner of the mouth, lips and tongue to stimulate the female's clitoris, vulva, or vagina.

cunnilinctus - oral stimulation of the vulva or clitoris

~~~

Y'all don't seem to think much of women, talkin' bout their private parts and maintenance with such disdain.

Shame on you

the always amicable....ameeeeeeecus.... (same to you!)

 

[Wrong Element]

Remember when you ran away
And I got on my knees and begged you
Not to leave because I'd go berserk?

Well.

You left me anyhow and
Then the days got worse and worse
And now you see I´ve gone completely
out of my mind

And.


They´re coming to take me away,
Haha, they´re coming to take me away,
Ho ho, hee hee, ha ha,
To the funny farm
Where life is beautiful all the time
And I´ll be happy to see
Those nice young men
In their clean white coats
And they´re coming to take me away,
Haha!


You thought it was a joke,
and so you laughed, you laughed!
When I had said that losing you
Would make me flip my lid,

Right?

You know you laughed.
I heard you laugh, you laughed
And laughed and laughed
And then you left,
But now you know I´m utterly mad

And.


They´re coming to take me away,
Haha, they´re coming to take me away,
Ho ho, hee hee, ha ha,
To the happy home with trees and flowers
And chirping birds and basket weavers
Who sit and smile and
Twiddle their thumbs and toes
And they´re coming to take me away,
Haha!

I cooked your food,
I cleaned your house,
And this is how you pay me back
For all my kind unselfish loving deeds

Huh?

Well, you just wait,
They´ll find you yet,
And when they do, they´ll put you in
the ASPCA, you mangy mutt!

And.

They´re coming to take me away,
Haha, they´re coming to take me away,
Ho ho, hee hee, ha ha,
To the funny farm
Where life is beautiful all the time
And I´ll be happy to see
Those nice young men
In their clean white coats
And they´re coming to take me away,
Haha!

To the happy home with trees and flowers
And chirping birds and basket weavers
Who sit and smile and
Twiddle their thumbs and toes
And they´re coming to take me away,
Haha!

 

[LiFeNdEaTh]

Sweeeet ^

 

[Peregrinator]

~~~

From the definitons below, it appears you may have accurately done some name callintg....is my tongue a, 'device wudja think?




~~~

Y'all don't seem to think much of women, talkin' bout their private parts and maintenance with such disdain.

Shame on you

the always amicable....ameeeeeeecus.... (same to you!)

Uh, check a dictionary of slang. But that aside, I think you deserve the same courtesy we all do.

 

[bra_man69]

Uh, check a dictionary of slang. But that aside, I think you deserve the same courtesy we all do.

Check out the book it's greaaaat

 

[IrezumiKiss]

~~~

On a personal level, the most civil Post thus far, but still barbed, a supercilious concerit that says you know you are right and no one can prove you wrong. That is faith and all your refutations are, 'faith, belief', nary a shred of logical or rational reasoning.

I have mentioned before that I am a skilled debater with decades of experience before some really tough houses, hardly ever got a laugh, bishpos, priest, nuns, college profs, lesbians advocates of everything I oppose...I picked the toughest and the best....and never...never...lost an argument to reason.

You are wrong on all counts, your arguments are weak and unsupportable and I will do you the honor of telling you why.

Yes, my OP states and gives reason why Liberals have no honor. hold no values and express no principles. Those words I chose were not drawn randomly from the ethernet, they have meaning, are related and are absolute by definition.

Principles, values and honor are based on an individual defending good against bad, right against wrong; on an indiviudal understanding why those, 'right and good' things he supports are that way.

Not a single Liberal here, or basically anywhere will accept the concept of an universal, or absolute moral truth based on reasoln and rationality. They, and perhaps you included, wiil not and can not utter a single truth, a sngle absolute choice between good and bad, right and wrong.

You can not, for if you did, your entire moral faith would crumble as it depends upon a moveable feast of subjective and relative choices.

Liberals, by definiton, can have no principles, morals or values for they reject the foundation of such. 'Whatever works' regardless of the costs to individuals, is not a good moral philosophy.

Why does it matter what marriage has been in the past? If an institution is outdated and discriminatory, we nix it or fix it. Would you have sided with slavery during the civil war because that's how it had always been? I also find your proposed justification silly, as it completely discounts heterosexual couples who choose not to have children.

The history of man is composed of what has been in the past, don't play silly with me. The institution of marriage is neither outdated or discriminatory, it has, does, and always will do as it was intended. Establish a family, protect the woman and the child by law.

Slavery is a red herring and you know it. If you wish to debate that issue, then offer to.

My explanation of the legal, social and philosophical underpinnings of marriage between a man and a woman and in no way silly and they do not discount, but include heterosexuals who do not or can not have children. Those couplse can and do legally adopt and they can prosper under the umbrella of protection provided by the marriage contract with legal enforcement.

"To me, human liberty suggests that anyone can live wherever they choose (including next door to you, if that individual is terribly unlucky) and exercise their rights and freedoms to influence their governments and societies. You do not get to decide to whom human liberty applies based on your own biases."

If you will check my wording, I said, 'I do not want...'. a personal preference which I do have a right to have and voice. Naughty person with, 'biases' they are my opinions just as you have yours, play nice. There are neighborhoods I would not move into for reasons of my own, mayhaps you have yours as well?Live next to me? Enjoy the classical azz wafting aross my flower beds? I am unalterably opposed to open homosexuality and abortion for any reason other than preserving the life of the mother. You do your best to oppose me as I will to stop you.

And no, it's not rational to cling to an ethos from 40 years ago. You're dead wrong in your opinions on homosexuality, but I recognize that nothing I say will change that (thought I am curious as to your rationale - I thought homophobia typically stemmed from religious beliefs, but that does not appear to be the case).

What, you can't hold back on the bitchy nastiness for even a few minutes?

Sodomy was an ethos in biblical times, get a life!

I am dead right on homosexuality in all forms, it is, by definition, un natural, not of nature and please don't drag out the animal kingdom, okay?

Far from me being a homphobe, those of you who advocate killing defenseless babies in the womb are the truest haters of mankind of all. I happen to love people, cheerish and worship mankind, all but those who, as you do, want to use force to get your way.

I am and have always been, an atheist, thank you.

"Abortion is an irrepressible market. Women will seek out abortions regardless of their legality. I'd rather it be safe and regulated. Would you disagree? If you wish to reduce the number of abortions, then encourage education about and access to birth control."

Let me fix that for you:

"Rape is an irrepressible market. Women will seek out sex regardless of their legality. I'd rather neither happened and both were punished.. Would you disagree? If you wish to reduce the number of abortions, then be moral, respect sex and do not be so damned promiscuous!""

Your argument is specious and sophistic. Because we can not completely eliminate murder we should nonetheless make it painfless or somethng?

You have stated what you believe, what you, 'feel', and you have every right to do so, but when in formal conversation you are trying to stand on water, no foundatoin, no logic, no reason, no raitonality and your arguments are useless.

I don't like old ladies or kittens either....

amicus veritas (maybe go back and edit later)

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_maxvccd2qD1qgt0zp.gif

 

[amicus]

Uh, check a dictionary of slang. But that aside, I think you deserve the same courtesy we all do.

~~~

I did not for a moment think it was intended nicely...but...if ya only got a lemon..., but thank you for the common courtesy...it is appreciated and my lawyer has his hands full with my new book anyways....such a deal...just a little revolution, folks, hey, it's only a fur wound....it's only sex....?

amicus

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Amicus is on the target once more, the LIT Cruise Missle.

I'm reading a collection of trials handled by Roy Black down in Miami. Black usually takes the unpopular cases MSMedia, Democrats, and Appeasement RINOs pound on, to keep the animals down on the farm instead of looting Wal-Mart.

Ami's right, you cant reason with the Left and their admirers. Yuh gotta bring a cart load of evidence to court and expose them as half-wits in the grips of demonic-possession. On an international level they ignore al Qaeda and Stalin atrocities to chase after YOUTUBE kooks. They trivialize whats paramount and crusade for the inane.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Rob, if you just posted his real name and he hasn't made it public, please edit. He's a douche, for sure, a Rush Limbaugh wannabe, and not as good at the game as Rush, and his politics are full of hate, but please color inside the lines?

How long did you spend defending Throb over his fake exposure?


You are the douche.


Truly.


Ami, your conclusion is correct.


A_J's corollary #1, “The New Age Liberal prefers intuition to reason.”

A_J's corollary #2, “The New Age Liberal prefers the truthiness of expert-driven consensus to a personal examination of the facts and the application of reason.”

A_J's corollary #2a, “In reading, the New Age Liberal prefers fiction to biography.”

A_J's corollary #3, “The New Age Liberal maintains contradictory positions comfortably compartmentalized. (This is because the New Age Liberal is a creature that believes in consensus as a short-cut to an examination of the facts and a reasoned judgment about said facts. Corollary #2.)”

A_J's corollary #4, “When cornered by the truth, the New Age Liberal resorts to ad hominem attacks. Admitting wrong is tantamount to treason to the Consensus.”

A_J's corollary #5, “When lacking reason and sound argument, the New Age Liberal charges headlong into ‘debate’ with emotional cries of Hypocrisy. The New Age Liberal is, of course, immune to and incapable of Hypocrisy. That would require hard and fast standards.”

A_J's corollary #6, “The New Age Liberal thinks, ‘When I do/say it, it is right because of my open-minded education and intelligence. When you do/say it, it serves to demonstrate how narrow-minded, poorly educated and stupid you are.’”

A_J's corollary #7, “To the New Age Liberal, the past is an indictment, the present is unjust, and the future will be perfect if and only if they establish the rules and cultural norms for current society.”

A_J's corollary #8, “In times of crises, the New Age Liberal calls for more government and higher taxes. In times of plenty, the New Age Liberal calls for more government and higher taxes. The primary motivation is always Crusader-like Altruism and the illusion of ‘fairness.’”

A_J's corollary #8a, “The New Age Liberal believes that in good times Government can afford to spend more than it receives and in bad times, it can’t afford not to.”

A_J's corollary #9, “When a Republican does it, it is a high crime and misdemeanor, when a Democrat does it, then it is, *shrug*, they ALL do it...”

A_J's corollary #9a, “When a Republican does it, an explanation is making an excuse, when a Democrat does it, then an excuse is the rightful explanation.”

A_J's corollary #9b, “When a Democrat does it, the accusing woman is trashed, when a Republican does not do it, then the Republican is trashed.”

A_J's corollary #10, “The only time Europe approves of the projection of American force is when they are in charge (having graciously surrendered their own ability to do so).”

A_J's corollary #11, “The New Age Liberal defines a fair share of taxes as, ‘When you pay your taxes, you have no more money left than anyone else has.’”

A_J's corollary #12, “The New Age Liberal thinks that if you cannot raise them to your level with your superior intellect, might and power, make them more comfortable by sinking to their level and then they will follow your example...”

A_J's corollary #13, “The New Age Liberal believes in his good intentions, his big heart and his ability to find transgression and to discern solution by the application of benevolent government.”

A_J's corollary #14, “The Modern Moderate/Conservative is defined by the enthusiasm, and self-congratulatory cries of ‘reasonable,” displayed in taking up a position held by the New Age Liberal after they have abandoned that hard-won cultural victory for one even more to the Left.”

A_J's corollary #15, “The New Age Liberal truly believes he is a nuanced thinker who can discern every nuance of grey in his argument. Everyone else is a Republican black and white thinker.”

A_J's corollary #16, “The New Age Liberal does not believe that the government should always grow larger in the future. He just wants a little more government now.”

 

[kbate]

Proper Childrearing and Protective union of One-Man, One Woman:

Doomed Children, destined for the fires of an amoral Hell:

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

I bitched about Bush for six years, and through all that time the Republicans on this board never trashed me the way the Democrats do now that "their guy" is "in charge."

They were angry when Bush was President, but they seem even more angry now that Obama is President.

Maybe it's just disappointment.

Maybe, it's who they really are and have been all along.
A_J, the Wiser

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

kbate



Talk about a one-note Nellie...

 

[kbate]

kbate



Talk about a one-note Nellie...

amicus, talk about a one note nellie. . .

Hey Look at that! I can do it too!

And I can do it in your next "Fairtax Now" thread . . .

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Tallahasteezi Kafir!!!

 

[kbate]

As usual, we see the Amicus Support Group cheering on his impeccable logic as he once again proves that a One Man/one Woman Definition of marriage is the only possible definition of marriage by telling us that One Man/One Woman marriage is the only logical definition of marriage. Circular logic much? Petitio Principii?

Even as he yells, "Red Herring" to dismiss a comparative argument, even as he uses logical fallacies as his only argument.

Yep, he's a great debater. Cheer him on, cheer him on because he's RIGHT.

*yawn*

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Which one of those guys gave birth to the kids?



The National Enquirer wants to know...

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Which one was the bride?



Funny how the nomenclature could be so "bigoted..."

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

We need to follow the French and outlaw all terms such as mommy, daddy, wife, husband, bride and groom to make sure that 3% of the population "feels" equal...

 

[kbate]

Which one of those guys gave birth to the kids?
The National Enquirer wants to know...

Both men had the children as a result of a proper one man/one woman union but their wives died and because the children were doomed anyway because they were no longer in a one man/one woman protective household, the men got together to suffer their doom as an improper supportive unit.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Both men had the children as a result of a proper one man/one woman union but their wives died and because the children were doomed anyway because they were no longer in a one man/one woman protective household, the men got together to suffer their doom as an improper supportive unit.

So the one becomes the all?


Nice...

That's amicus-style thinking.

 

[kbate]

So the one becomes the all?

Nice...

That's amicus-style thinking.

No, the following is Amicus style thinking:

" ".

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

No, the following is Amicus style thinking:

" ".

Do you not know that the formatter parses spaces to space?


Now you are really making him look like the smart one...