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http://www.cbn.com/CBNNews/News/030211a.asp
Jihad in Britain: Radical Islam's Favorite Playground
As U.S. and British troops get ready for a possible war with Iraq, authorities are worried that these extremists and other Islamic militant groups could be plotting terrorist attacks in Britain and elsewhere.
CBN.com – This is Part 1 of a two-part series on radical Islam in the United Kingdom.
LONDON - Since 9/11, Britain has emerged as America's closest ally in the war against terrorism. Ironically, Britain is also a major base of operation for some of the most radical Islamic organizations, including some direct supporters of Osama bin Laden. But it took September 11th before the activities of these militant groups were taken seriously.
In January of 2002, British military intelligence working in eastern Afghanistan made a shocking discovery in the mountains of Tora Bora. During searches of Osama bin Laden's cave complex, they found the names of 1,200 British citizens, all Muslims, who trained with the Al Qaeda network in Afghanistan.
The discovery was made public in January of this year. The British press reports that some of those who survived the defeat of the Taliban, have sneaked back into Britain and are forming terrorist cells. Many have gone underground to avoid detection.
As U.S. and British troops get ready for a possible war with Iraq, authorities are worried that these extremists and other Islamic militant groups could be plotting terrorist attacks in Britain and elsewhere.
This comes as no surprise to intelligence officials. For years Britain, and London in particular, has been a hub for Islamic radicals. Some anti-terrorism investigators have called the British capital "Londonistan." Many fundamentalist groups find Britain, with its liberal immigration laws and broad tradition of free speech, to be a perfect base for their jihad against the West.
At the heart of Britain's radical Islamic movement is a man called Mustafa Kamel, a.k.a. Abu Hamza al-Masri. An Egyptian cleric, Hamza is wanted by other countries for suspected terrorist activities. Since 1978 he has lived under protective asylum in Britain.
Today, he spends his time in London running a group called "Supporters of Sharia." According to the S.O.S. website, the goal is to replace secular rule and democracy with Sharia, a harsh form of Islamic law.
When CBN News asked Hamza if he wants to see Great Britain become a Muslim nation based on Sharia, he said, "The whole of the planet, not only Great Britain, because we are all a creation of god, we have to pay god his attributes, and follow his law."
Hamza, who has a metal hook on his right arm, lost both hands and an eye during a raid in Afghanistan 10 years ago. He believes a holy war is the only way to implement the laws of Allah in Britain.
"Jihad in general is striving for the sake of god to establish his law and order on earth and the backbone of jihad is fighting, so everything fighting in the cause of god is jihad," Hamza said.
Of course, the call to martyrdom is also included in this belief. "This is the only way you can prove yourself in front of god. 'Look, this is the dearest thing I have, is in my life. If I had anything dearer than that, I would have given it to you.' So being a martyr is an honor," he said.
British intelligence believes Abu Hamza has played an important role in recruiting terrorists. Hamza denies this charge. Still, the finance ministers of seven industrialized nations recently froze his assets.
Hamza claims to not understand why his accounts were frozen. When pressed on the topic, Hamza replied, "They want to shut me up, they don't like my statements, they don't like the true version of the Koran, they want people to give them apologetic Islam, and Islam to serve their purposes, regardless if its convenient for Muslims or god."
For years, Hamza used a mosque in Finsbury Park in north London, considered the most radical and dangerous in Europe, to preach hate against Jews and Christians.
In a video obtained by a British newspaper, Hamza tells supporters that murder and stealing are legitimate weapons against the enemies of Islam. Hamza tells them, "Just kill them, it's OK!"
And for those who do not care to believe in his god, what are the consequences? Hamza said, "Well, if you live in my property and you don't pay me my rent, you get out! And Jihad is to get you out, this is the property of god, you don't worship him, you get out. How are you going to get out? You get killed!"
Andrew Dismore, a member of British Parliament, said, "It seems to me what they are doing is inciting violence and peddling a message of anti-Semitic hatred at the same time."
Dismore says Hamza's radical message resonates with many young Muslims in Britain. "They do work very, very actively to recruit among young British Muslims to persuade them to their particular brand of fundamentalism and to ultimately train them for Jihad."
Scotland Yard believes Hamza preached jihad to the likes of Zacarias Moussaoui, the alleged 20th hijacker on 9/11, and Richard Reid, the so-called "shoe-bomber." Both visited the mosque on several occasions.
Hamza shied away from taking credit when CBN News asked how his messages might have influenced these men. "You ask these people," he redirected. "Muslims use thousands of mosques in their lifetime, and they use mosques sometimes because of their convenience, because their mother-in-law lives here or their father lives here. Muslims use thousands of mosques sometimes a mosque for the morning, a mosque for Friday, a mosque for the afternoon, they pray five times a day."
Investigators suspect that some of the British Muslims whose names were found in the mountains of Tora Bora, may have been recruited from the Finsbury Park mosque, as well.
Hamza feels that the net around him is tightening. "It must be tightening," he said, "because now this is a satanic time, because there are people who want to define the right and the wrong away from god's definitions. So the net must be tightening against me, but that is usual for prophets and the prophets' followers."
Religious experts estimate that around 15 percent of Britain's two million Muslims are radical. Many of them see the conversion of Britain and the United States to Islam as key to their goal of worldwide domination.
Omar Izzadeen and a group of young men belong to another radical Muslim group called Al Muhajiroun. Their mission is to establish Al Khilafah, a global Islamic regime, starting here in Britain.
"Our message is to bring Islam to the world, Islam will conquer the White House, will conquer it in Downing Street," Izzadeen said. "It means conquer, it means the Americans will live under Islam, like it or not, so will the UK."
On a Friday night, Izzadeen instructs the group to follow the example of the 19 hijackers of September 11th. He reminds them that it only took a "few good men" to bring terror to America.
"It really shook the Americans, superpower, shook by 19! And it showed their weakness. You see brothers, if people put their minds to something, they can do anything, and in particular, the believers," Izzadeen said.
While the majority of Muslims here have nothing to do with these radical groups, experts say Islam is becoming a major force to be reckoned with in Britain.
Mathew Ashimolowo, a Nigerian Christian who converted from Islam, is the pastor of a prominent church in London. "They're becoming very bold and everyone is afraid to touch them," he said. "Islam is growing so fast and it is converting people. Matter of fact 9/11 increased interest and curiosity about Islam."
And what is attracting people to Islam? In part, Ashimolowo says, it is the failure of the church to be relevant in today's British society. "The Christianity we have today in Britain is a conformed Christianity that has been shaped by the culture, by the Western man," he said.
He says Muslims sense an opportunity and are trying to fill the spiritual vacuum.
In London and elsewhere, low attendance has forced some churches to put their buildings up for sale. In some cases, Muslims are buying the churches and converting them into mosques.
Dr. Peter Riddell, a professor of Islamic Studies in London, said, "Britain now has approximately 1,000 mosques, and just before the millennium, Muslim leaders in this country said that they want to add another 200 to the number in the coming years."
Ashimolowo says that, since 9/11, the political correctness brigade brands you racist if you dare challenge or question Islam. Some church leaders say the policy of the British government and the monarchy has actually been to sell Islam.
"There is now discussion to say that the monarchy, should not describe themselves as defenders of 'the Faith,' but defenders of 'faiths.' And in our opinion, there's only one faith, because it's only in Christianity that God demands faith to please Him," Ashimolowo said.
As British authorities continue to confront the growing threat of radical Islam, Christians too are confronting them head on.
he's probably one of them
http://www.cbn.com/CBNNews/News/030211a.asp
Jihad in Britain: Radical Islam's Favorite Playground
As U.S. and British troops get ready for a possible war with Iraq, authorities are worried that these extremists and other Islamic militant groups could be plotting terrorist attacks in Britain and elsewhere.
CBN.com – This is Part 1 of a two-part series on radical Islam in the United Kingdom.
LONDON - Since 9/11, Britain has emerged as America's closest ally in the war against terrorism. Ironically, Britain is also a major base of operation for some of the most radical Islamic organizations, including some direct supporters of Osama bin Laden. But it took September 11th before the activities of these militant groups were taken seriously.
In January of 2002, British military intelligence working in eastern Afghanistan made a shocking discovery in the mountains of Tora Bora. During searches of Osama bin Laden's cave complex, they found the names of 1,200 British citizens, all Muslims, who trained with the Al Qaeda network in Afghanistan.
The discovery was made public in January of this year. The British press reports that some of those who survived the defeat of the Taliban, have sneaked back into Britain and are forming terrorist cells. Many have gone underground to avoid detection.
As U.S. and British troops get ready for a possible war with Iraq, authorities are worried that these extremists and other Islamic militant groups could be plotting terrorist attacks in Britain and elsewhere.
This comes as no surprise to intelligence officials. For years Britain, and London in particular, has been a hub for Islamic radicals. Some anti-terrorism investigators have called the British capital "Londonistan." Many fundamentalist groups find Britain, with its liberal immigration laws and broad tradition of free speech, to be a perfect base for their jihad against the West.
At the heart of Britain's radical Islamic movement is a man called Mustafa Kamel, a.k.a. Abu Hamza al-Masri. An Egyptian cleric, Hamza is wanted by other countries for suspected terrorist activities. Since 1978 he has lived under protective asylum in Britain.
Today, he spends his time in London running a group called "Supporters of Sharia." According to the S.O.S. website, the goal is to replace secular rule and democracy with Sharia, a harsh form of Islamic law.
When CBN News asked Hamza if he wants to see Great Britain become a Muslim nation based on Sharia, he said, "The whole of the planet, not only Great Britain, because we are all a creation of god, we have to pay god his attributes, and follow his law."
Hamza, who has a metal hook on his right arm, lost both hands and an eye during a raid in Afghanistan 10 years ago. He believes a holy war is the only way to implement the laws of Allah in Britain.
"Jihad in general is striving for the sake of god to establish his law and order on earth and the backbone of jihad is fighting, so everything fighting in the cause of god is jihad," Hamza said.
Of course, the call to martyrdom is also included in this belief. "This is the only way you can prove yourself in front of god. 'Look, this is the dearest thing I have, is in my life. If I had anything dearer than that, I would have given it to you.' So being a martyr is an honor," he said.
British intelligence believes Abu Hamza has played an important role in recruiting terrorists. Hamza denies this charge. Still, the finance ministers of seven industrialized nations recently froze his assets.
Hamza claims to not understand why his accounts were frozen. When pressed on the topic, Hamza replied, "They want to shut me up, they don't like my statements, they don't like the true version of the Koran, they want people to give them apologetic Islam, and Islam to serve their purposes, regardless if its convenient for Muslims or god."
For years, Hamza used a mosque in Finsbury Park in north London, considered the most radical and dangerous in Europe, to preach hate against Jews and Christians.
In a video obtained by a British newspaper, Hamza tells supporters that murder and stealing are legitimate weapons against the enemies of Islam. Hamza tells them, "Just kill them, it's OK!"
And for those who do not care to believe in his god, what are the consequences? Hamza said, "Well, if you live in my property and you don't pay me my rent, you get out! And Jihad is to get you out, this is the property of god, you don't worship him, you get out. How are you going to get out? You get killed!"
Andrew Dismore, a member of British Parliament, said, "It seems to me what they are doing is inciting violence and peddling a message of anti-Semitic hatred at the same time."
Dismore says Hamza's radical message resonates with many young Muslims in Britain. "They do work very, very actively to recruit among young British Muslims to persuade them to their particular brand of fundamentalism and to ultimately train them for Jihad."
Scotland Yard believes Hamza preached jihad to the likes of Zacarias Moussaoui, the alleged 20th hijacker on 9/11, and Richard Reid, the so-called "shoe-bomber." Both visited the mosque on several occasions.
Hamza shied away from taking credit when CBN News asked how his messages might have influenced these men. "You ask these people," he redirected. "Muslims use thousands of mosques in their lifetime, and they use mosques sometimes because of their convenience, because their mother-in-law lives here or their father lives here. Muslims use thousands of mosques sometimes a mosque for the morning, a mosque for Friday, a mosque for the afternoon, they pray five times a day."
Investigators suspect that some of the British Muslims whose names were found in the mountains of Tora Bora, may have been recruited from the Finsbury Park mosque, as well.
Hamza feels that the net around him is tightening. "It must be tightening," he said, "because now this is a satanic time, because there are people who want to define the right and the wrong away from god's definitions. So the net must be tightening against me, but that is usual for prophets and the prophets' followers."
Religious experts estimate that around 15 percent of Britain's two million Muslims are radical. Many of them see the conversion of Britain and the United States to Islam as key to their goal of worldwide domination.
Omar Izzadeen and a group of young men belong to another radical Muslim group called Al Muhajiroun. Their mission is to establish Al Khilafah, a global Islamic regime, starting here in Britain.
"Our message is to bring Islam to the world, Islam will conquer the White House, will conquer it in Downing Street," Izzadeen said. "It means conquer, it means the Americans will live under Islam, like it or not, so will the UK."
On a Friday night, Izzadeen instructs the group to follow the example of the 19 hijackers of September 11th. He reminds them that it only took a "few good men" to bring terror to America.
"It really shook the Americans, superpower, shook by 19! And it showed their weakness. You see brothers, if people put their minds to something, they can do anything, and in particular, the believers," Izzadeen said.
While the majority of Muslims here have nothing to do with these radical groups, experts say Islam is becoming a major force to be reckoned with in Britain.
Mathew Ashimolowo, a Nigerian Christian who converted from Islam, is the pastor of a prominent church in London. "They're becoming very bold and everyone is afraid to touch them," he said. "Islam is growing so fast and it is converting people. Matter of fact 9/11 increased interest and curiosity about Islam."
And what is attracting people to Islam? In part, Ashimolowo says, it is the failure of the church to be relevant in today's British society. "The Christianity we have today in Britain is a conformed Christianity that has been shaped by the culture, by the Western man," he said.
He says Muslims sense an opportunity and are trying to fill the spiritual vacuum.
In London and elsewhere, low attendance has forced some churches to put their buildings up for sale. In some cases, Muslims are buying the churches and converting them into mosques.
Dr. Peter Riddell, a professor of Islamic Studies in London, said, "Britain now has approximately 1,000 mosques, and just before the millennium, Muslim leaders in this country said that they want to add another 200 to the number in the coming years."
Ashimolowo says that, since 9/11, the political correctness brigade brands you racist if you dare challenge or question Islam. Some church leaders say the policy of the British government and the monarchy has actually been to sell Islam.
"There is now discussion to say that the monarchy, should not describe themselves as defenders of 'the Faith,' but defenders of 'faiths.' And in our opinion, there's only one faith, because it's only in Christianity that God demands faith to please Him," Ashimolowo said.
As British authorities continue to confront the growing threat of radical Islam, Christians too are confronting them head on.
