pinkstarfish
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Could anyone please explain the pleasure in blood and pain in relation to sexual arousal?
Dog cages, meat hooks w/chains, razor cuts and razor paddles...
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EmpressFi
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it's subjective and I couldnt begin to think of how to explain it
rosco rathbone
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The Hellraiser side of bdsm?
catalina_francisco
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If someone needs it explained, it probably isn't their thing and no amount of trying to explain it is ever going to help them understand. Just my 2 cents worth and others may have words that can convey it better than I could ever attempt to.
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Isn't that when to coin a phrase 'it hurts so good?'
Its practically impossible at least for me to explain, but it just works...if your'e bent that way anyway
Its practically impossible at least for me to explain, but it just works...if your'e bent that way anyway
VelvetDarkness
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I guess it's a more visceral and feral part of BDSM sexuality. From the perspective of a slave, I have moments during L and I's more animalistic lovemaking when I yearn for him to really hurt me. I want him to scratch and cut and mark me. I have a very high tolerance to pain. I used to work in medicine and have never been a squeamish person. I have watched and participated in all manner of 'violent' acts perpetrated on people in order to heal them; needles, IVs, surgery, sutures etc. It seems a natural progression to me to extend that to wanting a deep, dark part of the psyche healed and sated in the same way.
For some it's an objectification/humiliation thing, for others it's the thrill of being marked, claimed and treated absolutely as a possession and a resource. Some want the pain, some want the marks to touch and treasure for days and weeks. Some simply see it as something they want to overcome in order to please their dominant. Some people just have to try everything without exception. The reasons for wanting to engage in this kind of exchange are myriad.
My Master has no interest in practices like needleplay, cutting, razors or branding so they remain limits of mine by extension. I'm sure I'd gain an adrenaline thrill from it. I haven't been wrong about many of the things that I thought I'd enjoy before I tried them.
The human organism and its response to various stimuli never ceases to fascinate me.
For some it's an objectification/humiliation thing, for others it's the thrill of being marked, claimed and treated absolutely as a possession and a resource. Some want the pain, some want the marks to touch and treasure for days and weeks. Some simply see it as something they want to overcome in order to please their dominant. Some people just have to try everything without exception. The reasons for wanting to engage in this kind of exchange are myriad.
My Master has no interest in practices like needleplay, cutting, razors or branding so they remain limits of mine by extension. I'm sure I'd gain an adrenaline thrill from it. I haven't been wrong about many of the things that I thought I'd enjoy before I tried them.
The human organism and its response to various stimuli never ceases to fascinate me.
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I doubt it. Otherwise this whole board would have like 6 threads on it.
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People dont think youre weird if you like eating hot peppers but if you like a hot ass youre a pervert.
Evil_Geoff
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Certainly.
I'm a sadist. I derive a great deal of pleasure from causing pain and making someone bleed. I get a thrill and arousal from their willing submission to the things I inflict on them. One of the hottest, most intense, most pleasurable scene's I've ever had was when I did this
http://forum.literotica.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=729318&d=1170913890 (the first cutting I did on anyone other than myself by accident)
and this
http://forum.literotica.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=738039&d=1173061121 (our second)
to my girl jane. She is not a masochist, she does not enjoy pain for it's own sake. But she surrenders her body to my desires and that is OMG fucking hot! Her pleasure comes from knowing how pleased I am, in a job well done, and in the praise and rewards I give her.
Yum!
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pinkstarfish
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Wow! Thanks to everyone for your answers.
My reasoning for being curious stems from a manuscript I’ve been reading that was written by an ex of mine who is in prison. He’s writing a book and finished most of it, which are the memoirs of a junkie, his life over the span of almost 20 years.. A chapter of the book is about being on the streets in LA where he hangs out in bars looking for tricks from men, and is propositioned by an older man to watch him and his ‘sadist for hire’ in their ritualistic torture scene. He’s not unfamiliar with this lifestyle and after the scene is over, sits down with the guy to talk. The man offers him morphine pills and a place to live to be his master. He goes on to describe their relationship and as I’m reading my curiosity is at it's peak. The man who is his slave is a professional… a scientist! Someone, whom in reality, is a well respected professional, but here he is allowing a junkie to be his master.
I was just so curious I had to inquire.
My reasoning for being curious stems from a manuscript I’ve been reading that was written by an ex of mine who is in prison. He’s writing a book and finished most of it, which are the memoirs of a junkie, his life over the span of almost 20 years.. A chapter of the book is about being on the streets in LA where he hangs out in bars looking for tricks from men, and is propositioned by an older man to watch him and his ‘sadist for hire’ in their ritualistic torture scene. He’s not unfamiliar with this lifestyle and after the scene is over, sits down with the guy to talk. The man offers him morphine pills and a place to live to be his master. He goes on to describe their relationship and as I’m reading my curiosity is at it's peak. The man who is his slave is a professional… a scientist! Someone, whom in reality, is a well respected professional, but here he is allowing a junkie to be his master.
I was just so curious I had to inquire.
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Life_Noir
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Probably not in any coherent way...But if you want to see a "stab" at it...Try here..
http://forum.literotica.com/showthread.php?t=287554&highlight=Sadist
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We like it a little wild and crazy sometimes but i can not imagine meat hooks being involved.
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I think it might be akin to the "Tattoos are addictive" line.
When pain is inflicted upon a person, your body releases endorphins in order to soothe and relax the pain. It's a natural high, the feeling can be like taking a vicoden or a hit of pot.
The pain then becomes pleasure, and everyone loves pleasure. Some people just need different kinds of stimulation in order to feel that high.
When pain is inflicted upon a person, your body releases endorphins in order to soothe and relax the pain. It's a natural high, the feeling can be like taking a vicoden or a hit of pot.
The pain then becomes pleasure, and everyone loves pleasure. Some people just need different kinds of stimulation in order to feel that high.
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You might want to see the film "Love is the Devil" for something kind of like this, it's about the painter Francis Bacon.
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Cool, thanks.
I saw a consensual porn video about two woman using meet hooks on each other's breasts, among other just as extreme things. Biggest painsluts I have ever seen. I'm scared just thinking about it.
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Oooh, that was really well put.
I think one quote that really applies to many who can go to this length was from Lord Byron.
"The great object of life is sensation, to feel that we exist, even though in pain."
I've done needle play and light blood play and for me it was showing a deep trust in the dominant and takes a lot of commitment on both our parts to where I could sit their under blade and needle and have complete faith in my safety.... it's a great release for me, giving in to someone to that level. Even so, I have to be careful, I scar pretty badly with cuts and it takes near forever to heal.
I have to say, one thing that was absolutely stunning to see, I saw a performance where this one female sub gave a blowjob to a knife, now not sword swallowing but a full blowjob. From what I understand she completely knew what she was doing but still I was in awe, I get similar reactions at seeing suspension.
Lovely pics, thanks for sharing. Not to go too far off topic... but what did you use to cut with?
To the OP... as they say, your mileage may vary. It's like trying to explain why I like chocolate chip cookies... they just taste damn good to me. Or, perhaps a better example - I hate crab... in any form... hate smelling it, hate the taste, the texture everything... sometimes it makes me gag just thinking of it. My mom LOVEs crab... there're few things in the known universe that tastes better to her than a high quality crab cake. Yuck. I will never understand her like of it, and she will never understand my dislike.
There's nothing that says we all have to like or have the same reaction to the same thing - and quite frankly we don't. It's ok.
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Fwiw, I don't have a desire to try meat hooks w/chains (although I want to try rope suspension, and I love watching suspension scenes with hooks), razor cuts or razor paddles, but I occasionally see cages and think they look cozy.
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Putting aside the thread title and sticking more exclusively to your question Pink, I'll go with my personal food analogy in regards to arousal coupled with pain.
People all have different palettes some tuned to specific flavoids, they change, refine and vary depending on a multitude of factors. Sure we can tolerate/enjoy most things but get the seasoning just right and the food is not only good it becomes exquisite, enhanced. As salt seems to be a base enhancer, interpret that as pain, with arousal as the basic food . Too much for the specific palette......... get it just right and oh my . That failing it sure will get your attention pronto : smiles : Which in itself leads in a multitude of potential directions, think I'll leave the whine menu alone today though. Ohh Sommelier Dom's where are you ?
Bon Appétit
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I'm somewhat of a people watcher. And, in this past time of mine, I've noticed that the human brain needs to refuel or regroup (for lack of a better phrase). And, it seems that the more intelligent, or more perfectionist brains need more of this than the rest of us. The more complex someone is, the more down time they need.
And, for a few, this down time is sometimes achieved by doing something that would be considered completely counter to their norm. I don't know if it's just an overload that they need, or if they just run until empty, then crash and burn. Some people just live this way.
For some, a sexual thing is what works. Others will seek out pain. Some will even seek out both, depending on what level release they want. Being totally different from their normal self, they seem to desire it, if not need it.
I've seen many submissive women who were very intelligent and lead powerful lives. A lot of them were owners of companies, major bosses with staff, etc. in their normal day to day. They were the powerful boss in one part of their lives and the cowering sexual object in another. More than a few powerful company execs are the same. It's just something their mind desires...to let someone else make the decisions for once and exist as a toy or object. For some, being less than a viable human being seems to be a necessity.
I asked one submissive if she understood why she desired being so submissive in her sexual life, when she was part of very powerful corporate board and held her own as an exec, in a man's world. She was also married to a very prominent corporate attorney in this town, and rubbed elbows with high society...i.e. mayors, senators and congressional members, at fashionable parties.
She said she just wanted to allow someone else to make the decisions. Her husband wasn't into sex. His desires were centered on his work. She didn't think he was "in tune" with his sexual self as much as she was, and so her female doctor actually suggested she seek outside satisfaction, because it was necessary to make it look like she was a happy trophy wife.
She said the stress of the lifestyle was getting to her and she needed an escape from it, from time to time. She had a very high threshold for pain, too. I'm somewhat of a sadist, but I don't like blood of any form. I enjoy inflicting pain, but not to the point it causes blood. But, up to that point, I'm fine.
I think she needed more than I could give her, in that area. She never said so, but I think that was how she coped with life. Before the end of our relationship, many things happened in her life that caused even more stress than the normal amount she was accustomed to. She needed her release level to equal the stress level.
I'm not saying everybody who desires our kind of sexual release is this way, but they are just one category that is. Many people desire giving and receiving pain and or control just because they enjoy it. I think I enjoy it because in my life, I'm not where I desire to be.
I like to think I have the mind to be a boss...a leader and a teacher. This lifestyle allows me to be all of those things, and achieve sexual satisfaction, too. And the satisfaction I give to my sexual partners gives me extreme satisfaction, too.
Would I still enjoy this lifestyle, if it ever became possible for me to achieve these things in my day to day life? Who knows? I know I don't have that answer. I enjoy it so much now, I can't think of ever not enjoying it. Maybe it just would slow down a bit. And, maybe I'm just completely incorrect with all of this mumbo jumbo I'm spewing.
I think the human brain is way more complex than we could ever imagine. Its ability to seek out a necessary release in order to cope with an ever-stressful lifestyle is just amazing. If this weren’t so, I'd think we would have many more mass shootings, and many more mental disorders than we already do. Those times when we do have something like this happen, I think those people just couldn't find a channel of release.
